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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / September 200888 Toyota supra starter removal
Just a quick question... I'm trying to remove a starter from an 88 toyota supra, na, a/t. I can eaily get to the bolt on the bottom of the starter, but cannot figure out how to reach the bolt on top of the starter. I can get a socket on it, but it is too cramped to turn it. Any suggestions? TIA - > Just a quick question... I'm trying to remove a starter from an 88 toyota > supra, na, a/t. I can eaily get to the bolt on the bottom of the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > TIA - How about a long extension?  SignatureRay O (correct punctuation to reply) > Just a quick question... I'm trying to remove a starter from an 88 toyota > supra, na, a/t. I can eaily get to the bolt on the bottom of the starter, > but cannot figure out how to reach the bolt on top of the starter. I can > get a socket on it, but it is too cramped to turn it. Any suggestions? > > TIA - Ooooh! Oooh! I know this one! Actually, what Ray said, but also get a flex adapter for the end of the extension, and you'll be able to get it out OK. Do you have the Sport Roof? I have the same car, w/Sport Roof. What a BLAST! Thanks for the information, I still haven't got it, but getting close... Do you remember if you got to the bolt from the underside or topside? I love the car, ( yes, sport roof ) but lately its needed alot of work... In the last 5years: Rack & Pinion, tie rods, shocks, head gasket, radiator, heater core, window switch, speed cable, water pump, & transmission rebuild. Sometimes I wonder if its worth the effort and expense. How many miles should I expect to get from a will maintained '88 supra? >> Just a quick question... I'm trying to remove a starter from an 88 >> toyota [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Do you have the Sport Roof? I have the same car, w/Sport Roof. What a > BLAST! > Thanks for the information, I still haven't got it, but getting close... > > Do you remember if you got to the bolt from the underside or topside? (I didn't do it. I didn't have the tools at the time...) > I love the car, ( yes, sport roof ) but lately its needed alot of work... > In the last 5years: Rack & Pinion, tie rods, shocks, head gasket, > radiator, heater core, window switch, speed cable, water pump, & > transmission rebuild. Sometimes I wonder if its worth the effort and > expense. That all sounds about right. I haven't done the rack yet, but it needs ball joints, shocks, speed cable, and tranny work. I've done the fuel tank and the filler neck, timing belt and hoses, complete tune up. I have new springs for it too (taken off a car at 20,000 miles). Also bushings/control arms. Most of the stuff you mentioned is par for these cars. The head gasket, speedo cable and tranny are known problems. I'm thinking of converting mine to a 5-speed. As far as effort and expense? I love the car, and I will do as much work as I can do myself or afford. They go up in value every 4 months or so. But parts are becoming scarce. I ordered trans cooler lines 3 years ago and I got the *LAST* one in the world, from a dealer in Japan! You've done the hard stuff already. Mine shows 276,000 kilometers on the clock, with a broken speedo cable. That's 171,120 miles in Dog years ;) Add 10-12,000 miles per year since 2005 and that's 204,120 miles, and the motor is great, and the body good. I'd say 250,000 is not a stretch. > How many miles should I expect to get from a will maintained '88 supra? > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> Do you have the Sport Roof? I have the same car, w/Sport Roof. What a >> BLAST! > > Thanks for the information, I still haven't got it, but getting close... > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Add 10-12,000 miles per year since 2005 and that's 204,120 miles, and the > motor is great, and the body good. I'd say 250,000 is not a stretch. That's why I love Toyotas so much in general... my bro got his Tacoma with 250,000 mi on it and a cracked head/blown head gasket(s)... i took it apart and put it all back together and now it has 260,000 miles running strong.. My lowest mileage Celica is an '85 with a mere 171,000 miles on it.. LOL! Speaking of converting to 5-speed from auto... my next personal project is to convert that '85 of which i spoke to a manual. I have the donor car (an '82 ST) with all the lines and the trans and pedals.. I drove it 750 miles on three cylinders from VA.. even have the ECU from an '83 manual that was wrecked. I picked up about 8 or 9 celicas a few years ago when you could still get 'em for about $200 each. Soooooo glad I did! The nice thing about these cars, at least, is that if you want to convert to a manual, all you need are the parts because all the brackets and pre-drilled holes are already there on the body of the car.. Even the hole for the clutch master cylinder exists in the firewall with a bung in it. I can't remember everything involved because it's been a while, but my bro bought an '87 22RET with a burnt automatic.. I converted that thing to 5-speed.. Was really easy. There was no hole in the firewall on that one, though... had to drill myself. > I can't remember everything involved because it's been a while, but my > bro bought an '87 22RET with a burnt automatic.. I converted that > thing to 5-speed.. Was really easy. There was no hole in the > firewall on that one, though... had to drill myself. lol forgot to mention that was a truck, not a celica. > Speaking of converting to 5-speed from auto... > > my next personal project is to convert that '85 of which i spoke to a > manual. I have the donor car (an '82 ST) with all the lines and the > trans and pedals.. I drove it 750 miles on three cylinders from > VA.. even have the ECU from an '83 manual that was wrecked. I thought you said '75... The '85 Celica used a W58 trans, rated for 220HP. The 22RE put out 145 HP so there was plenty of headroom. The 86.5-91 (92?) MA70 Supra 7M-GE used.../voila/ the W58. At 200 HP there wasn't as much headroom. But, that's what they used. You need a different bell housing and a different 'shifter adapter' at the rear of the trans to move the shifter back. You also need a different front shaft and trans mount. And the pedals won't work from your '85, IIRC. That bit I can't remember. The shame is, I had an '85 GTS and gave it away. I thought the guy was going to fix it, but he scrapped it. I would have taken it back and taken the seats, wheels (for my '85 Corolla GTS) and, of course, the trans. It was flawless... > > Speaking of converting to 5-speed from auto... > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > the seats, wheels (for my '85 Corolla GTS) and, of course, the trans. It > was flawless... Ok, my daily driver is a '79 GT. I put the W58 from the wrecked '83 in there in place of the W50 when my brother let the oil out (shifter bolts vibrated out after 25 years) and then I drove it 60 miles without knowledge of the "no oil" situation. My first celica was an '82celica ST with a W58. I bent a valve in the engine and it sat for 3 years until I really needed it to get back to GA... got a 3 day pass from VA to drive with no tags or insurance.. LOL.. Chug chug chug down the road... i'll bet the people behind me were cursing me..LOL! This '85 I'm working on right now came with an automatic.... I passed it like 20 times going to my at the time girlfriend's house... checked into it and they wanted $250 probably to cover unpaid labor... the previous owner had them switch the 22RE to a pickup truck and left them with the '85 Celica. Unfortunately, rats have been in the thing and pooed and peed all over the seats and carpet..... From the wrecked '83, however, i saved the entire carpet and the all the seats... That's where the donor engine is from as well.. I'm hoping the wiring harness isn't different! The '85 has a sunroof which leaks a good amount... I'm thinking of just taking a piece of thick sheet metal and welding it shut, but not sure ... it has ruined the headliner already. I've never had a Celica with a sunroof... I love sunrooves when they don't leak! Anyway, fortunately, the shifter in this case is going to come up in exactly the same spot as the automagic shifter.. Today, I pulled out the automatic and the shifter... On the '79, my bro tried to remove the fill plug on the trans with an open-end wrench. Needless to say, I had to put the plug from the '82's tranny in there to replace the rounded-off plug. So, the trans I'm putting the '85 was without a plug. I looked around for the chewn one, but can't remember where I stashed it. So I looked at the oilpan for the 22R from the '82.... voila! The plug fits perfectly in the transmission... ! WOOHOO! I have like 8 more in VA, but ... that's 750 miles away.. so. Haven't finished removing and swapping the pedals, but just swapped the clutch line to the '85... have to undo all sorts of things and put this line behind those things... it's a pain, but it looks stock because it fits in all the stock locations! The owner of the Supra on which I'm doing the swap is slow-rolling me on the labor bill and getting parts, so I put the suspension back on and moved the piece of sh.t out of the way. Unfortunately, he might not want to pay me to finish the project since he is pissed at my brother... LOL I would like to have a '75, but never had one that old... this '79 is the oldest I've owned. 22RE ... 145hp? maybe the 22RET in my brother's pickup.. i was thinking more like 105 - 115 stock for the 22RE... Before I scrap anything nowadays, I take every part that's useful to me.. I'm going to post the pics from when I scrapped the '83.. put' em up later for ya. I took EVERYTHING... literally. Hach, Appears you were right.. toyota loves to move the hole in the floor between the auto and the manual.. Have to cut a little and drill some holes for the shifter boot... oh well! In addition: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=31203 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=6465 > Just a quick question... I'm trying to remove a starter from an 88 toyota > supra, na, a/t. I can eaily get to the bolt on the bottom of the starter, > but cannot figure out how to reach the bolt on top of the starter. I can > get a socket on it, but it is too cramped to turn it. Any suggestions? > > TIA - >> Just a quick question... I'm trying to remove a starter from an 88 toyota >> supra, na, a/t. I can eaily get to the bolt on the bottom of the starter, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=6465 That's an Either/Or situation, not an And. Wobbles can be handy for minor misalignments, and Universals are great for going around corners. Having multiple wobble extensions *and* universal joints in a single stack-up is going to make that string flop around like a wet noodle - applying torque is going to be an exercise in frustration. You want to use the right socket, then *one* extension to get clear of the starter, then *one* universal to make the turn, then *one* extension to get the ratchet handle down (or up) to where you can turn it. Have an assortment of 6" 9" and 12" extensions to choose from so you don't have to stack them. You then hold the universal joint with your off hand to keep it in-line, and apply torque with your dominant hand. Oh, and disconnect the battery first - the +12V battery cable power stud on the starter is right there, and if you ground that out with the socket wrench stack you will make BIG Sparks... --<< Bruce >>-- |
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