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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / November 2008

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Toyota Venza

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ransley - 25 Nov 2008 22:28 GMT
I just saw one today at my neighbors house, a bit large but its the
coolest toyota ive seen yet, milage was poor with the V6, big wheels,
a nice car.
Ray O - 25 Nov 2008 22:36 GMT
>I just saw one today at my neighbors house, a bit large but its the
> coolest toyota ive seen yet, milage was poor with the V6, big wheels,
> a nice car.

My son saw one yesterday and said that it looks much nicer when seeing it in
person than it does in the photos on Toyota's web site.

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ransley - 26 Nov 2008 00:43 GMT
On Nov 25, 4:36 pm, "Ray O" <rokig...@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com>
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> >I just saw one today at my neighbors house, a bit large but its the
> > coolest toyota ive seen yet, milage was poor with the V6, big wheels,
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> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)

Its real nice inside and out, great brown color, good price, but to
big for my taste and poor mpg with 261hp. Even the rear hatch is
powered, but just one more thing to break
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 26 Nov 2008 00:50 GMT
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<6128955d-e488-4a52-89f6-15b66995cb66@x38g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,

> On Nov 25, 4:36 pm, "Ray O" <rokig...@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com>
> wrote:
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> big for my taste and poor mpg with 261hp. Even the rear hatch is
> powered, but just one more thing to break

Gee, they finally brought the RX300 to the Toyota brand.

Let's see:  Toyota created the Camry.  Then they made a Camry wagon.  
Then they stopped making the Camry wagon--oops, I mean they stopped
selling a Camry wagon as a Toyota vehicle, and instead bulked it up to
look like a four-wheelin' thingamabob and sold it exclusively at the
Lexus dealer as the RX300/350.

And now, full circle, comes the Camry Wagon again--the RX350 outfitted
and sold as a Toyota.

And people believe it's an "all-new" car.  Marketing is easy, because
people are so gullible.
Ray O - 26 Nov 2008 07:42 GMT
> In article
> <6128955d-e488-4a52-89f6-15b66995cb66@x38g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
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> look like a four-wheelin' thingamabob and sold it exclusively at the
> Lexus dealer as the RX300/350.

The Higlander, like the Lexus RX, is also based on the Camry platform.

> And now, full circle, comes the Camry Wagon again--the RX350 outfitted
> and sold as a Toyota.
>
> And people believe it's an "all-new" car.  Marketing is easy, because
> people are so gullible.

The difference between the Venza and Highlander/RX is that the Venza has a
lower step-in and cargo loading height for easier ingress, egress, and
loading and for people who want to get away from the SUV look.
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Elmo P. Shagnasty - 26 Nov 2008 12:10 GMT
> The difference between the Venza and Highlander/RX is that the Venza has a
> lower step-in and cargo loading height for easier ingress, egress, and
> loading and for people who want to get away from the SUV look.

The difference between the RX and the Highlander is that.

The Venza is the RX with a Toyota badge and trim levels, and available 4
cylinder engine.
ransley - 26 Nov 2008 14:31 GMT
On Nov 26, 6:10 am, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com>
wrote:
> In article <ggiviq$uh...@news.motzarella.org>,
>
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> The Venza is the RX with a Toyota badge and trim levels, and available 4
> cylinder engine.

It looks lower like its chopped, wheels are bigger, its still to big
though, a Corola size would be better and even a corola now is bigger
than the old camry.
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 26 Nov 2008 18:30 GMT
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<7abaefe6-5fda-411c-9789-b90386fbc5c2@v13g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,

> > The Venza is the RX with a Toyota badge and trim levels, and available 4
> > cylinder engine.
>
> It looks lower like its chopped, wheels are bigger, its still to big
> though, a Corola size would be better and even a corola now is bigger
> than the old camry.

No, look at the current RX and have a picture of the Venza with you.  
You'll see.  They're the same vehicle.

The Matrix is the Corolla wagon.

I'm driving a rental Corolla now for the past couple of weeks, while my
Prius gets bodywork done.  The Corolla is noticeably smaller than the
Prius, and is noticeably smaller than even my father's old 88 Camry
wagon.
Scott  in  Florida - 26 Nov 2008 18:46 GMT
>The Matrix is the Corolla wagon.

The Matrix is the UGLY Corolla wagon.

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Ray O - 27 Nov 2008 06:47 GMT
>> The difference between the Venza and Highlander/RX is that the Venza has
>> a
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> The Venza is the RX with a Toyota badge and trim levels, and available 4
> cylinder engine.

While the Venza, Highlander, and RX are both based on the Camry platform,
the Venza and Highlander are longer overall, has a longer wheelbase, and
have a wider track than the RX.  Those differences mean that the Venza,
Highlander, and RX are more than just re-skinned and re-badged versions of
the same vehicle, even though they offer similar utility.
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Elmo P. Shagnasty - 27 Nov 2008 14:37 GMT
> While the Venza, Highlander, and RX are both based on the Camry platform,
> the Venza and Highlander are longer overall,

The Venza is 2.8 inches longer than the RX.  Big whoop--that's just
misc. bodywork issues.

It's ALL misc. and meaningless issues between the Venza and the RX.

You plainly work for Toyota, who has a standing interest in people
thinking that the RX and the Venza are two "completely different"
vehicles.  They're not.  They're the same vehicle with different trim
levels.  Any length, wheelbase, and height differences are so small as
to be meaningless.

And a look at the cars themselves shows them to be the same vehicle,
much more so than the RX and Highlander.  The Highlander is a completely
different vehicle than either of the Venza or the RX, but the Venza is
just an RX for the Toyota dealership.
 
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