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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / November 2008{OT} Some unreported stats about the 2008 election
Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008 Presidential election: -Number of States won by: Democrats: 20; Republicans: 30 -Square miles of land won by: Democrats: 580,000; Republicans: 2,427,000 -Population of counties won by: Democrats: 127 million; Republicans: 143 million -Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Democrats: 13.2; Republicans: 2.1 Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Republican won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens. Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in rented or government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..." Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.  SignatureScott in Florida Scott in Florida, 11/29/2008,3:37:56 PM, wrote: > Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, > Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008 [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already > having reached the "governmental dependency" phase. And why is it these statistics were not reported? All together now -- MEDIA BIAS!!! I's like to see the same group of statistics for the 2000 election. On Nov 29, 4:08 pm, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com> wrote: > Scott in Florida, 11/29/2008,3:37:56 PM, wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > I's like to see the same group of statistics for the 2000 election. Because they are meaningless. How many voters per square mile live if the vast areas "won" by the republicans? Obviously less than the number of voters who live in cities and suburbs. Crime? per capita, not that much of a difference. Same with renters vs. home owners. Figures lie and lairs figure. You guys are getting senile and left behind. > On Nov 29, 4:08 pm, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > You guys are getting senile and left behind. It may be meaningless to you but to anyone with a discerning mind it shows what type of people and what areas voted for BO. Those who still value freedom and the spirit of innovation, responsible, hard-working people vs. those with an entitlement mentality who are caught up in the government dole one way or another. Signature"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy." ~ Winston Churchill >> On Nov 29, 4:08 pm, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > people vs. those with an entitlement mentality who are caught up in the > government dole one way or another. Reminds me of a certain Sarah Palin statement; one which she then had to explain away. Cathy > > > On Nov 29, 4:08 pm, "badgolferman" > > > <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > Reminds me of a certain Sarah Palin statement; one which she then had > to explain away. Please expand. Signature"To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is research." ~ Unknown >> > > On Nov 29, 4:08 pm, "badgolferman" >> > > <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > Please expand. Why? Cathy >>> > > On Nov 29, 4:08 pm, "badgolferman" >>> > > <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > > Cathy Because no one here knows what the hell you are blubbering about. >>>> > > On Nov 29, 4:08 pm, "badgolferman" >>>> > > <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > > Because no one here knows what the hell you are blubbering about. I know exactly what Cathy's talking about, and you are demonstrating the the retarded do not know they are retarded. > > > Reminds me of a certain Sarah Palin statement; one which she then > > > had to explain away. > > > > Please expand. > > Why? What was the statement? >> > > Reminds me of a certain Sarah Palin statement; one which she then >> > > had to explain away. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > What was the statement? Really?? It was plastered all over the news. Okay... The little slip of the tongue re: pro-America parts of the USA: "We believe that the best of America is in the small towns that we get to visit, and in the wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hard-working, very patriotic, very pro-America areas of this great nation. This is where we find the kindness and the goodness and the courage of everyday Americans." Later, she 'clarified' with: "It's all pro-America. I was just reinforcing the fact that there, where I was, there's good patriotic people there in these rallies, so excited about positive change and reform of government that's coming that they are so appreciative of hearing our message, hearing our plan. Not any one area of America is more pro-America patriotically than others." Cathy >>What was the statement? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >we find the kindness and the goodness and the courage of everyday >Americans." It looks to me like she nailed it right on the head. Everyone knows rural America is more hard-working, patriotic, and pro-America than urban areas where huge amounts of people are on the government dole, care only about themselves, and do not get involved in helping others, and expect someone else to do all the work. Signature"Truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it." ~ Flannery O'Connor >>>What was the statement? >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > care only about themselves, and do not get involved in helping others, > and expect someone else to do all the work. Rolling my eyes... Cathy >>>What was the statement? >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > care only about themselves, and do not get involved in helping others, > and expect someone else to do all the work. Please find stats showing how many welfare recipients there are per 1000 residents in: - NYC - Pick 5 rural states Percentages, know what I mean? Then, find info explaining the differences. Until then, your "everyone knows" statement is utter bullshit. >>>>What was the statement? >>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Percentages, know what I mean? Then, find info explaining the differences. > Until then, your "everyone knows" statement is utter bullshit. Remember, BGM has a -huge- problem w/NYC & NYS - & since NYC is an urban area, well... among other things they aren't patriotic (oops - isn't that the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island in the harbor??), don't help anyone else (must be he forgot all about 9-11, Katrina, the tsunami...), & most are on the dole, doncha know. Cathy >>> On Nov 29, 4:08 pm, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > >Cathy How about Barry's statement about how many states he was in? SignatureScott in Florida >>>> On Nov 29, 4:08 pm, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > How about Barry's statement about how many states he was in? Give us 20 other similar statements from him and you may have a leg to stand on, you old pussy. >>>>> On Nov 29, 4:08 pm, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] >Give us 20 other similar statements from him and you may have a leg to stand >on, you old pussy. uhhhh errrrrr ahhhhh errrr uhhhhhhh uhhhh errrrrr ahhhhh errrr uhhhhhhh uhhhh errrrrr ahhhhh errrr uhhhhhhh uhhhh errrrrr ahhhhh errrr uhhhhhhh SignatureScott in Florida >>>>>> On Nov 29, 4:08 pm, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > > Scott in Florida So, you have nothing, you old pussy. > >> On Nov 29, 4:08 pm, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > Cathy You guys sure like to pounce on a female for first attempt at Repub. VP slot. Not long ago women were bitching they didn't have any chance to break the "glass ceiling" Now finally one has or had a chance to get there and you jealously bitch about some of her comments, calling her "stupid" and other disparaging names. Next time I hear that the Republican party in not an all-inclusive party I will bring up Gov. Palin and how she's been treated both in the press and by individual citizens like your self. At least McCain tried and regardless of which women had been chosen you along with other lefties would have found some remark or comment she had made and would have called her "stupid", "dumb", "idiot", "moron" and so forth, because it is built into your mind-set to do so. Had she been a Democrat, she would be "brilliant" "highly intelligent" "the most intelligent woman in the world" etc..... Signature"It's deja vu all over again" Yogi Berra >> >> On Nov 29, 4:08 pm, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > Had she been a Democrat, she would be "brilliant" "highly intelligent" > "the most intelligent woman in the world" etc..... What I see is an America clearly dividing in two. The division started being visible back in the Reagan years. Especially since the Left Coast LIEberals kept shouting that Ron would put us in WWIII, etc. etc. and it didn't happen. There will eventually be a Civil War. Whether it will start now that BO is president or wait until Hillary takes over is hard to guess. It looks like the fire is being taken out of BO's liberalism. Instead of North vs South, or even Black vs White, it's going to be taxpayers vs welfare. Sir Charles the Curmudgeon > There will eventually be a Civil War. Whether it will start now that BO is > president or wait until Hillary takes over is hard to guess. It looks like > the fire is being taken out of BO's liberalism. Instead of North vs South, > or even Black vs White, it's going to be taxpayers vs welfare. > > Sir Charles the Curmudgeon Wishful thinking by an old fart who forgot how tough he WASN'T. Another senile armchair general. > You guys sure like to pounce on a female for first attempt at Repub. VP slot. I thought it was because Palin turned out to be as dumb as a tree, like Dan Quayle and Spiro Agnew. That's what you get when you choose a VP candidate as a gimmick. > Had she been a Democrat, she would be "brilliant" "highly intelligent" > "the most intelligent woman in the world" etc..... That's not credible, even for you. The Democrats didn't praise their first woman VP candidate, Geraldine Ferraro, that way, simply because Ferraro wasn't that smart, even though she was a lot smarter than Palin. If Palin had been a Democrat, the only difference would have been that a lot more openly gay women would have expressed their lust for her. >> > It may be meaningless to you but to anyone with a discerning mind it >> > shows what type of people and what areas voted for BO. Those who still [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> >> Cathy > Had she been a Democrat, she would be "brilliant" "highly intelligent" > "the most intelligent woman in the world" etc..... Oh, give me strength.... A bumbler is a bumbler. It would've been *nice* to have a women on the Republican ticket for whom I could root, & who I felt was furthering the cause of equal rights re: women. But she wasn't it. Cathy On Nov 29, 6:29 pm, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com> wrote: > edspyhil...@yahoo.com, 11/29/2008,4:51:33 PM, wrote: > > On Nov 29, 4:08 pm, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com> [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the > gospel of envy." ~ Winston Churchill No, it shows how dishonest republicans will be with statistics. Here we go again - only republicans value freedom; only republicans pay taxes; only republicans shouldn't pay taxes; only republicans run businesses small and big; only republicans work hard; only republicans love America; only republicans can get a vietnam deferment for having a boil on their a.s. You are so full of sh.t it's laughable. > "anyone with a discerning mind" aaaaaaaaahahahahah!!! This, from the guy who couldn't figure out whether to join his union about a year or so ago, and needs an instruction sheet to use a toothbrush. > > On Nov 29, 4:08�pm, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > Scott in Florida, 11/29/2008,3:37:56 PM, wrote: > > > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > > And why is it these statistics were not reported? All together now > > > -- MEDIA BIAS!!! > > Because they are meaningless. How many voters per square mile live if > > the vast areas "won" by the republicans? Obviously less than the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > It may be meaningless to you but to anyone with a discerning mind it > shows what type of people and what areas voted for BO. Those statistics are meaningless to anybody who believes in one person, one vote, as all real Americans do, and not in one acre owned, one vote, as the Junkers, Czars, and their dupes do. Lest we forget a lot of Democrats did not, and a lot of Republicans did, vote for Nobama. For one I am always thankful that this county is Republic and NOT a Democracy. If it were up to the majority Democrats we would still be salves, never given the right to vote and one of us would not be President elect. Many of my Republican friends who voted for Nobama were surprised that I voted for McCain. When asked I told them I lived through WWII and the most pressing problem facing our country today is radical Islamic terrorism. Worse than the Nazis, because the Nazi had on uniforms in battle. McCain understands that and Nobama, and most of the Dims in Congress, do not. We will pay for electing an empty suit filled with promises and not electing a true patriot like John McCain On Nov 29, 4:08 pm, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com> wrote: > Scott in Florida, 11/29/2008,3:37:56 PM, wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > I's like to see the same group of statistics for the 2000 election. Because they are meaningless. How many voters per square mile live if the vast areas "won" by the republicans? Obviously less than the number of voters who live in cities and suburbs. Crime? per capita, not that much of a difference. Same with renters vs. home owners. Figures lie and lairs figure. You guys are getting senile and left behind. > Lest we forget a lot of Democrats did not, and a lot of Republicans did, > vote for Nobama. No one voted for Nobama. However a lot of people from all parties voted for Obama. And a lot of people from all parties voted for someone else or for no one. > For one I am always thankful that this county is Republic > and NOT a Democracy. If it were up to the majority Democrats we would > still be salves, never given the right to vote and one of us would not be > President elect. Really? > Many of my Republican friends who voted for Nobama were surprised that I > voted for McCain. When asked I told them I lived through WWII and the most > pressing problem facing our country today is radical Islamic terrorism. The most pressing problems are the economy and global warming. McCain did not have an adequate plan to deal with either of these. In addition, neither did Bush. Bush attack on the Iraqis was not supported by the evidence then and it is not supported by the evidence now, either. > Worse than the Nazis, because the Nazi had on uniforms in battle. McCain > understands that and Nobama, and most of the Dims in Congress, do not. What uniforms should the Republicans (the dims in Congress) wear? > We > will pay for electing an empty suit filled with promises and not electing a > true patriot like John McCain Being a patriot like McCain or G.H.W. Bush does not make one a good President. Jeff > <edspyhil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > You guys are getting senile and left behind. >> Lest we forget a lot of Democrats did not, and a lot of Republicans did, >> vote for Nobama. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Really? Aren't you glad we're not salves? :-) Yes, thank to Republicans >>> Lest we forget a lot of Democrats did not, and a lot of Republicans did, >>> vote for Nobama. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Aren't you glad we're not salves? :-) Indeed. > Yes, thank to Republicans > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> >> Aren't you glad we're not salves? :-) >The most pressing problems are the economy and global warming. GLOBAL WARMING? ROFLMAO You are a KooK...... SignatureScott in Florida > Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, > Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008 [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already > having reached the "governmental dependency" phase. Anything to buoy your spirits over the landslide electoral college vote results. Cathy >> Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, >> Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008 [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Anything to buoy your spirits over the landslide electoral college vote > results. Interesting. Obama beat McCain in a landslide, 52% to 48%, but the marriage definition in California was a squeaker at 52% Yes, and 48% No. Why is Obama's victory a landslide, but Yes on 8 barely got by? > >> Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, > >> Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008 [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Why is Obama's victory a landslide, but Yes on 8 barely got by? Much more "political capital" than Dubya had in both his appointments to the office of the president. On Nov 29, 4:47 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <cr...@verizon.net> wrote: > "Cathy F." <c...@adelphiadotdeedot.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Why is Obama's victory a landslide, but Yes on 8 barely got by? Much more "political capital" than Dubya had in both his appointments to the office of the president. <JS> Usually I get stuff, but that one was so far over my head, I didn't even feel a need to duck. </JS> > <edspyhil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > </JS> Don't tell me you already forgot Dubya's couple of speeches after his second "election" where he talked about all the political capital he had from being reelected and he was going to spend as he saw fit. ------------ Bush pledges to spend his 'political capital' WASHINGTON -- Contending Americans have embraced his conservative agenda, President Bush pledged Thursday to aggressively pursue major changes in Social Security, the tax code and medical malpractice awards, working with Democrats if they are receptive and leaving them behind if they're not. "I earned capital in the campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it," Bush said a day after a decisive victory that made him the first president in 68 years to win re-election and gain seats in both the House and Senate. "I'll reach out to everyone who shares our goals," said Bush, who 24 hours earlier had promised to try to win over those who voted for his Democratic opponent. http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-15792806.html On Nov 30, 12:07 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <cr...@verizon.net> wrote: > <edspyhil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > </JS> Don't tell me you already forgot Dubya's couple of speeches after his second "election" where he talked about all the political capital he had from being reelected and he was going to spend as he saw fit. <JS> The part I'm missing is, my question was about a margin of victory being a landslide or a bare majority depending on the issue and not the margin of victory, your answer is about political baggage of GWB. You have (repeatedly) not addressed the point. This is not about political baggage or capital, it's about 4% being a major victory or a narrow defeat, depending on where the Liberals stand on the particular issue. It pains me to explain this easy stuff to you and Joe, time and time again. </JS> >>> Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, >>> Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008 [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Interesting. Obama beat McCain in a landslide, 52% to 48%, Try 53%, 46%. but the marriage > definition in California was a squeaker at 52% Yes, and 48% No. > Why is Obama's victory a landslide, but Yes on 8 barely got by? Read my sentence again: "Anything to buoy your spirits over the landslide electoral college vote results." What were the tallies for the electoral college votes? (365, 173) Cathy Media bias?? >>> Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, >>> Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008 [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Why is Obama's victory a landslide, but Yes on 8 barely got by? >> Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, >> Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008 [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Anything to buoy your spirits over the landslide electoral college vote > results. Hardly a landslide. 1984 was a landslide. >>> Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, >>> Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008 [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Hardly a landslide. 1984 was a landslide. You, too... read my sentence again. Electoral College results. Cathy >>>> Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, >>>> Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008 [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > You, too... read my sentence again. Electoral College results. You, again, read my sentence again. 1984 was a landslide: Reagan - 525 Mondale - 13 Just a bit more lopsided that 2008. >>>>> Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, >>>>> Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008 [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Just a bit more lopsided that 2008. Who said it wasn't even more of one (although I didn't check your stats)? Does that not make 365/173 a landslide? Cathy >>>>>> Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, >>>>>> Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008 [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Cathy That depends on your definition. Two to one is a good majority, but not a landslide in my book. Particularly true when you take demographics into account. Had O gotten 400 or more, we'd be talking landslide. > >>>>>> Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, > >>>>>> Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008 [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > demographics into account. Had O gotten 400 or more, we'd be talking > landslide. Let us know what sock puppet name you were using when Dubya was elected so we can read your justification that being appointed by the supreme court was a mandate. > Let us know what sock puppet name you were using when Dubya was > elected so we can read your justification that being appointed by the > supreme court was a mandate. Ah, yes. Another straw man argument. Please show me where I said Bush had a mandate. Go ahead. Show me. Seriously, eddie, I'll take back what I posted earlier. You definitely are unique. You're the only person I've encountered that has his head so far up his a.s he can see his own molars AND has successfully performed that insertion while his mouth contains both of his feet. > On 2008-11-29 19:35:21 -0800, "edspyhil...@yahoo.com" > <edspyhil...@yahoo.com> said: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > a.s he can see his own molars AND has successfully performed that > insertion while his mouth contains both of his feet. Tell us all the sock puppets you have posted as so we can search for your comments. You understand that I don't just take your word. >> On 2008-11-29 19:35:21 -0800, "edspyhil...@yahoo.com" >> <edspyhil...@yahoo.com> said: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Tell us all the sock puppets you have posted as so we can search for > your comments. You understand that I don't just take your word. Blah, blah, blah. Sock puppets<awk!> Sock puppets <awk!> > On 2008-11-29 19:53:05 -0800, "edspyhil...@yahoo.com" > <edspyhil...@yahoo.com> said: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Blah, blah, blah. Sock puppets<awk!> Sock puppets <awk!> Yep you are. I think I know what sock puppet name you used to use. I'm getting a sense of who you were in the past. >>> Tell us all the sock puppets you have posted as so we can search for >>> your comments. You understand that I don't just take your word. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Yep you are. I think I know what sock puppet name you used to use. > I'm getting a sense of who you were in the past. Good luck with that one. I've been here twice. Recently, and a few weeks back. Th-th-th-that's all, folks. >> Let us know what sock puppet name you were using when Dubya was >> elected so we can read your justification that being appointed by the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >a.s he can see his own molars AND has successfully performed that >insertion while his mouth contains both of his feet. ROFL..... SignatureScott in Florida > > Anything to buoy your spirits over the landslide electoral college vote > > results. > > > > Hardly a landslide. 1984 was a landslide. > > You, too... read my sentence again. Electoral College results. Funny, but the Republicans brag about the Electoral College landslides of 1980 and 1988, when they got less than 54% of the popular vote but at least 80% of the Electoral votes. I wonder why? >> > Anything to buoy your spirits over the landslide electoral college vote >> > results. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > of 1980 and 1988, when they got less than 54% of the popular vote but > at least 80% of the Electoral votes. I wonder why? That was "different". Sorta. If you squint. >> Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, >> Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008 [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >Cathy I suppose you are proud of what you are doing to America.... SignatureScott in Florida > On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:45:09 -0500, "Cathy F." > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Scott in Florida Yes, taking it back from religious fundamentalists and cranky old men who want to see "those" people starve and live in boxes. >> On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:45:09 -0500, "Cathy F." >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Yes, taking it back from religious fundamentalists and cranky old men >who want to see "those" people starve and live in boxes. What people? SignatureScott in Florida >>> Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, >>> Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008 [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > I suppose you are proud of what you are doing to America.... Yes. The international reaction on election night was enough to determine that it's a good thing; Obama will work *with* our allies - instead of being Mr. Unilateral Decider Man and alienating them. But that's just one facet which will now have the ability to do a turn-around. Hopefully the extreme right wing - esp. the religious fundies, who are huge pieces of work (IOW, nutcases who want everyone else to fall in line with them until we have a nation full of nutcases) - will once again have influence that will be in proportion to their numbers. And I think I can now breathe easier in regard to upcoming openings on the Supreme Court. Having GWB at the helm for 8 years has been a horror story. Cathy >>>> Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, >>>> Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008 [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > Cathy Having YOU, in this newsgroup, has been a whore story. > Having YOU, in this newsgroup, has been a whore story. Stay classy, Sharxy. And always use a condom when you're doing it with fellow woman-hater CharlesTheCurmudgeon. >>>> Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, >>>> Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008 [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > >Cathy Yes it was a horror story.....for our enemies. Now our enemies will attack. Thanks, Cathy...for being an air head. SignatureScott in Florida >>>>> Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, >>>>> Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008 [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > Thanks, Cathy...for being an air head. Me, an airhead?? When you're the one who seems to think GWB has been all fine & dandy?? Pleeease... Shaking my head, & more eye rolling. Cathy >>>>>> Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, >>>>>> Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008 [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > >Cathy GWB has been an excellent President. Has he been wrong a few times? Yup. Illegal aliens...for one. You are safe...thank GWB. SignatureScott in Florida >>>>>>> Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. >>>>>>> Paul, [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] >> > GWB has been an excellent President. You want to think that, go right ahead... no one to stop you, & esp. at this point am sure he'd appreciate your loyalty. Cathy > Has he been wrong a few times? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You are safe...thank GWB. > GWB has been an excellent President. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > You are safe...thank GWB. I think there is a strong argument to be made that Iraq has not gone very well, or as well as the planners told GWB that it would go. I agree that we needed to go into Iraq, but I think we under estimated the degree to which the Iraqis would embrace their new freedom and liberty, and this under estimation has caused us to look bad. I would be very cautious to blame America for the death and destruction, but I think that if Iraqis took a greater interest in their own welfare, the death and destruction might have been capped at significantly lower levels than we are seeing. We are safe, thanks to GWB, but there are other measures that should be considered. I would suggest that the very public statements by the likes of guys such as John Murtha have served to greatly enable the forces that seek an unstable environment anyplace where our guys are working to provide stability. > Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, > Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008 [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already > having reached the "governmental dependency" phase. From Hamline it's pretty surprising for a professor to come up with such a determination. I bet his placement is now under scrutiny. Hamline is a very liberal school in a very liberal part of the state. Signature"It's deja vu all over again" Yogi Berra > In article <uv93j4ta2u13hoadlm9vu43dfvejfua...@4ax.com>, > Scott in Florida <Mov...@outa.here> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > "It's deja vu all over again" > Yogi Berra He's probably lost his marbles. He must be close to retirement with the way he uses statistics. > He's probably lost his marbles. He must be close to retirement with > the way he uses statistics. Or else he's near retirement and doesn't care what others think of him anymore. |
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