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{OT} You vill serve NY maple syrup, und you vill LIKE it!

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Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 May 2009 04:33 GMT
U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer today wrote the International House of
Pancakes (IHOP) CEO Julia Stewart urging her to offer New York State
maple syrup at each New York restaurant location.  Recently, the IHOP
restaurant in Vermont started providing customers with the option to ask
for Vermont maple syrup instead of the chain’s artificially-flavored
syrup. Replicating this opportunity at New York IHOP locations would allow
customers to enjoy real maple syrup from New York and it would provide a
boost to the State’s maple tapping industry.

http://wnymedia.net/blogs/2009/04/schumer-urges-ihop-to-use-ny-maple-syrup/

Chuck Amok...
JoeSpareBedroom - 08 May 2009 07:10 GMT
> U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer today wrote the International House of
> Pancakes (IHOP) CEO Julia Stewart urging her to offer New York State
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Chuck Amok...

It's hilarious to see the sh.t you obsess about, while ignoring what's
important.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 May 2009 12:30 GMT
>> U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer today wrote the International House of
>> Pancakes (IHOP) CEO Julia Stewart urging her to offer New York State
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> It's hilarious to see the sh.t you obsess about, while ignoring what's
> important.

LOL! Coming from an O-bot, that's pretty rich!
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 May 2009 13:29 GMT
>> U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer today wrote the International House of
>> Pancakes (IHOP) CEO Julia Stewart urging her to offer New York State
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> It's hilarious to see the sh.t you obsess about, while ignoring what's
> important.

First of all, It's schumer. Why is *HE* obsessing about maple syrup while
ignoring what's important?

That was the original point of the post, but as
usual...ZZZZOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM!
JoeSpareBedroom - 08 May 2009 13:39 GMT
>>> U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer today wrote the International House of
>>> Pancakes (IHOP) CEO Julia Stewart urging her to offer New York State
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> First of all, It's schumer. Why is *HE* obsessing about maple syrup while
> ignoring what's important?

It took you another hour to come up with an equally goofy response. This is
heavy lifting for you, isn't it?

Schumer expressed an idea which would be good for his home state's maple
syrup business.
edspyhill01 - 08 May 2009 15:34 GMT
On May 8, 8:39 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net>
wrote:
> "Hachiroku ????" <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

He sat there cross-eyed with furrowed brow painfully thinking.

Some capitalist Hachi is - Schumer asks IHOP to use (and BUY) NY state
maple syrup.  Geez what could be the economic reason for that
request????  Smoke pours out of Hachi's ears.
SMS - 08 May 2009 15:40 GMT
> Some capitalist Hachi is - Schumer asks IHOP to use (and BUY) NY state
> maple syrup.  Geez what could be the economic reason for that
> request????  Smoke pours out of Hachi's ears.

A side benefit would be that it would expand IHOP's total available
market. A big reason many people don't eat there is the gross,
artificial syrups.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 May 2009 16:41 GMT
>> Some capitalist Hachi is - Schumer asks IHOP to use (and BUY) NY state
>> maple syrup.  Geez what could be the economic reason for that
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> market. A big reason many people don't eat there is the gross,
> artificial syrups.

There aren't any around.

Just what we all need. More fat and calories. What happened to Obama's
healthful eating agenda?
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 May 2009 16:40 GMT
> On May 8, 8:39 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> Some capitalist Hachi is

I am. But I like VT maple syrup.

> - Schumer asks IHOP to use (and BUY) NY state
> maple syrup.  Geez what could be the economic reason for that
> request????  Smoke pours out of Hachi's ears.

What's wrong with VT maple syrup? Or CT maple syrup?
Huh? Well! QUICK!!!!!
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 May 2009 16:58 GMT
>> On May 8, 8:39 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net>
>> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
> What's wrong with VT maple syrup? Or CT maple syrup?
> Huh? Well! QUICK!!!!!

OOps! Took longer than 15 minutes! Your brain smoked out there, Ed?
edspyhill01 - 08 May 2009 17:30 GMT
> >> On May 8, 8:39 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net>
> >> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

Unlike you I have to work.  It's not as if your crap is of any real
importance.  Just fun to chip away at you brain locks when I have a
free moment.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 May 2009 17:55 GMT
>> > What's wrong with VT maple syrup? Or CT maple syrup?
>> > Huh? Well! QUICK!!!!!
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> importance.  Just fun to chip away at you brain locks when I have a
> free moment.

Today's my day off. Chip away...
edspyhill01 - 08 May 2009 17:29 GMT
> > On May 8, 8:39 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net>
> > wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

It's not from NY in the NY IHOPs!
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 May 2009 17:55 GMT
>> > He sat there cross-eyed with furrowed brow painfully thinking.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> It's not from NY in the NY IHOPs!

Ya know, ed, once again, I have to agree with you!  ;p
larry moe 'n curly - 08 May 2009 22:16 GMT
> > On May 8, 8:39 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net>
> > wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
> What's wrong with VT maple syrup? Or CT maple syrup?
> Huh? Well! QUICK!!!!!

I've said it before, but it's common for white collar criminals to
think that they're a lot more clever than they really are.
dbu' - 08 May 2009 22:37 GMT
In article
<d7dc62e3-65f0-4085-8bf4-2c88f4326d57@f41g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,

> Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote:
> >
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
> I've said it before, but it's common for white collar criminals to
> think that they're a lot more clever than they really are.

But white collar criminals are not murderers.  I don't and can't
understand why they get life terms in prison when many murderers get off
with less than life terms.
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the civil-rights protests and thinks he knows all
about it."   Bobby Rush

larry moe 'n curly - 09 May 2009 20:28 GMT
> In article
> <d7dc62e3-65f0-4085-8bf4-2c88f4326d57@f41g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> But white collar criminals are not murderers.

Probably because they don't need to commit murder, but they've been
found to be at least as sociopathic as murderers.

> I don't and can't understand why they get life terms in prison when many murderers get off
> with less than life terms.

For one thing, murderers are less likely to commit crimes again after
they're released from prison, and in the case of Bernie Madoff, prison
will protect him from the people he swindled.
Conscience - 09 May 2009 20:46 GMT
> ...in the case of Bernie Madoff, prison will protect him from the
> people he swindled.

Assuming he's isolated from the general population.  If not, then a few
cartons of cigarettes would be sufficient to remedy that alleged safety.

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Washington

Hachiroku ハチロク - 09 May 2009 21:01 GMT
>> ...in the case of Bernie Madoff, prison will protect him from the
>> people he swindled.
>
> Assuming he's isolated from the general population.  If not, then a few
> cartons of cigarettes would be sufficient to remedy that alleged safety.

And a couple books of stamps...
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 May 2009 22:49 GMT
>> > On May 8, 8:39 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net>
>> > wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
> I've said it before, but it's common for white collar criminals to
> think that they're a lot more clever than they really are.

<YAWN>

Just as clever as anyone else here.

Certainly a lot more clever than most Obama voters:

"Oh, that kind of energy could heal the world!"
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 May 2009 16:39 GMT
>>>> U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer today wrote the International House of
>>>> Pancakes (IHOP) CEO Julia Stewart urging her to offer New York State
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> It took you another hour to come up with an equally goofy response. This is
> heavy lifting for you, isn't it?

Unlike you, I don't sit at the terminal hitting the refresh button every
10 seconds. I do things in between:

He walked around the wheelhouse.
He went downstairs
He laid down.
He get up he ran in the other room.
He sent a radiogram.
He came on back in.
He took a shower.
He come out.
He shaved.
He laid down.
He got up again.
He turned on the television.
He turned off the radio.
He played a game of cribbage.
He read his masked marvel comic book.
He walked thru the kitchen,
made a cup of tea,
made a cup of coffee,
sat down,
ate a piece of pie,
went upstairs,
played another game of cribbage,
went back in,
finished his other masked marvel comic book,
laid down,
he had the television, the radio, the egg beater, the air conditioner
n'everything's all goin' at once.

> Schumer expressed an idea which would be good for his home state's maple
> syrup business.
Jeff Strickland - 08 May 2009 16:42 GMT
>>>> U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer today wrote the International House of
>>>> Pancakes (IHOP) CEO Julia Stewart urging her to offer New York State
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> Schumer expressed an idea which would be good for his home state's maple
> syrup business.

LET THE F---ING MAPLE SYRUP BUSNESS SEND A LETTER TO IHOP!

Jesus Christ, you are dense. IT IS NOT A US SENATOR'S JOB to obsess about
the state of maple syrup business.
JoeSpareBedroom - 08 May 2009 16:47 GMT
>>>>> U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer today wrote the International House of
>>>>> Pancakes (IHOP) CEO Julia Stewart urging her to offer New York State
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> Jesus Christ, you are dense. IT IS NOT A US SENATOR'S JOB to obsess about
> the state of maple syrup business.

All competent elected barnacles lobby for their local businesses. That's
part of their job. This particular lobbying effort will probably not work,
but he was not out of line by mentioning the idea.
Jeff Strickland - 08 May 2009 18:53 GMT
> All competent elected barnacles lobby for their local businesses. That's
> part of their job. This particular lobbying effort will probably not work,
> but he was not out of line by mentioning the idea.

It is part of his job to lobby for federal funds to build a library. The
syrup industry can sell its wares to the restaraunt by itself.

You might think a Senator should be doing this, but that's because you think
government should be bigger. I think government is too big already, and
Schumer has enough on his plate already.
JoeSpareBedroom - 08 May 2009 18:55 GMT
>> All competent elected barnacles lobby for their local businesses. That's
>> part of their job. This particular lobbying effort will probably not
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> think government should be bigger. I think government is too big already,
> and Schumer has enough on his plate already.

All elected barnacles do things like this, and it's a good thing for
business. There are business owners who might never meet if not for someone
acting as a conduit. Since you never have and never will run a business, you
can't imagine how this works. I've seen it work since the late 1970s.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 May 2009 20:48 GMT
>> All competent elected barnacles lobby for their local businesses. That's
>> part of their job. This particular lobbying effort will probably not work,
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> government should be bigger. I think government is too big already, and
> Schumer has enough on his plate already.

LOL! See my last response to JSB.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 May 2009 16:56 GMT
>>>>> U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer today wrote the International House of
>>>>> Pancakes (IHOP) CEO Julia Stewart urging her to offer New York State
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> Jesus Christ, you are dense. IT IS NOT A US SENATOR'S JOB to obsess about
> the state of maple syrup business.

This is what I was driving at.

You get that one, Joe? zzzzzZZZZZOOOOOMMMMMmmmmm!

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a342/Mimka/Focus.jpg
JoeSpareBedroom - 08 May 2009 17:01 GMT
>>>>>> U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer today wrote the International House
>>>>>> of
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>
> You get that one, Joe? zzzzzZZZZZOOOOOMMMMMmmmmm!

All competent elected barnacles lobby for their local businesses. That's
part of their job. This particular lobbying effort will probably not work,
but he was not out of line by mentioning the idea.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 May 2009 17:54 GMT
>>>>>>> U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer today wrote the International House
>>>>>>> of
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
> part of their job. This particular lobbying effort will probably not work,
> but he was not out of line by mentioning the idea.

By writing a letter to the CEO?!
JoeSpareBedroom - 08 May 2009 17:58 GMT
>>>>>>>> U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer today wrote the International House
>>>>>>>> of
[quoted text clipped - 51 lines]
>
> By writing a letter to the CEO?!

If you think that's unusual for politicians from both parties, you are
typically misinformed.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 May 2009 18:39 GMT
>>>>>>>>> U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer today wrote the International House
>>>>>>>>> of
[quoted text clipped - 54 lines]
> If you think that's unusual for politicians from both parties, you are
> typically misinformed.

I am never misinformed.
JoeSpareBedroom - 08 May 2009 18:46 GMT
>>>>>>>>>> U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer today wrote the International
>>>>>>>>>> House
[quoted text clipped - 58 lines]
>
> I am never misinformed.

At the moment, you are, if you think politicians don't knock on the doors of
corporations asking for various things.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 May 2009 20:47 GMT
>>>>>>>>>>> U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer today wrote the International
>>>>>>>>>>> House
[quoted text clipped - 61 lines]
> At the moment, you are, if you think politicians don't knock on the doors of
> corporations asking for various things.

I don't recall saying that.

But with Schumer's record, he should just try to focus on one thing and
see if he can not screw it up too bad.

Too many things on his plate my confuse the poor boy.
JoeSpareBedroom - 08 May 2009 21:04 GMT
>>>>>>>>>>>> U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer today wrote the International
>>>>>>>>>>>> House
[quoted text clipped - 68 lines]
>
> I don't recall saying that.

I don't think you truly have any idea what you said.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 May 2009 21:46 GMT
>>>>>>>>>>>>> U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer today wrote the International
>>>>>>>>>>>>> House
[quoted text clipped - 70 lines]
>
> I don't think you truly have any idea what you said.

And ya know what? I don't really care!

The good Senator from NY should be worried about things other than
lobbying for the sugaring industry.
JoeSpareBedroom - 08 May 2009 22:19 GMT
>>>> At the moment, you are, if you think politicians don't knock on the
>>>> doors
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> The good Senator from NY should be worried about things other than
> lobbying for the sugaring industry.

Like what other things?
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 May 2009 22:48 GMT
>>>>> At the moment, you are, if you think politicians don't knock on the
>>>>> doors
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Like what other things?

Keeping Obama from running amok would be a nice start.
edspyhill01 - 08 May 2009 17:32 GMT
> >>>> U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer today wrote the International House of
> >>>> Pancakes (IHOP) CEO Julia Stewart urging her to offer New York State
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

We have another fake capitalist.  You like Senators who tell us what
religion to practice or what orafice to stick things into, and things
are to be used.
Jeff Strickland - 08 May 2009 18:57 GMT
> LET THE F---ING MAPLE SYRUP BUSNESS SEND A LETTER TO IHOP!
>
> Jesus Christ, you are dense. IT IS NOT A US SENATOR'S JOB to obsess about
> the state of maple syrup business.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

We have another fake capitalist.  You like Senators who tell us what
religion to practice or what orafice to stick things into, and things
are to be used.

<JS>
I don't want senators telling us what religion to practice, and your guy,
Billy, is the one sticking things into orafices they don't belong in.
Indeed, it is a liberal trait to stick things in orafices they don't belong
in. When our guys get caught doing that sort of thing, they hang their head
in shame and throw their worthless selves onto their own sword.

There is no reason the syrup people can't go to IHOP with a marketing deal
to put their syrup on the tables. A US Senator does not need to be doing
that.

</JS>
JoeSpareBedroom - 08 May 2009 19:01 GMT
>> LET THE F---ING MAPLE SYRUP BUSNESS SEND A LETTER TO IHOP!
>>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> </JS>

The vast majority of maple syrup producers are tiny operations. It's
unlikely that that type of business could supply enough to keep IHOP happy
unless they formed some sort of consortium with other producers.

Being from California, where maple syrup is an important industry, you knew
this. You were just kidding in your previous message.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 May 2009 20:46 GMT
>>> LET THE F---ING MAPLE SYRUP BUSNESS SEND A LETTER TO IHOP!
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> unlikely that that type of business could supply enough to keep IHOP happy
> unless they formed some sort of consortium with other producers.

Like the Florida Orange Growers association or the one that advertises
nuts.

The latter will be in business forever...

> Being from California, where maple syrup is an important industry, you knew
> this. You were just kidding in your previous message.
Jeff Strickland - 09 May 2009 03:01 GMT
>>> LET THE F---ING MAPLE SYRUP BUSNESS SEND A LETTER TO IHOP!
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> unlikely that that type of business could supply enough to keep IHOP happy
> unless they formed some sort of consortium with other producers.

That's why they form a trade group. The trade association goes out to the
potential customer base to get products in the door.

Otherwise, they sell stuff at the swap meet on Saturday morning, and at the
gift shoppe in town to the visiting tourists.

If they are so small as to not have the wherewithall to peddle their goods
to IHOP, they probably can't produce enough to interest IHOP anyway. Schumer
is wasting his time and energy.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 09 May 2009 03:07 GMT
> Schumer  is wasting his time and energy.

Doesn't that = Democrat?
Jeff Strickland - 09 May 2009 03:12 GMT
>> Schumer  is wasting his time and energy.
>
> Doesn't that = Democrat?

For somebody that accuses a poster in the group of obsessing when the actual
obsession is on the part of the Senator from the late Great State of New
York, it strikes me as odd that the poster is taking the heat while the
Senator gets a pass.

It seems to me that the priorities are out of whack.

_That_ = Democrat.
JoeSpareBedroom - 09 May 2009 12:03 GMT
>>> Schumer  is wasting his time and energy.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> of New York, it strikes me as odd that the poster is taking the heat while
> the Senator gets a pass.

How do you define "obsession"? Provide a response appropriate for someone
over the age of 12.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 09 May 2009 13:20 GMT
>>>> Schumer  is wasting his time and energy.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> How do you define "obsession"? Provide a response appropriate for someone
> over the age of 12.

OK

http://strumpette.com/uploads/august07/obsession.jpg
Conscience - 09 May 2009 14:51 GMT
>> How do you define "obsession"? Provide a response appropriate for someone
>> over the age of 12.
>
> OK
>
> http://strumpette.com/uploads/august07/obsession.jpg

I don't know about that.  I loved that stuff way before I was twelve.  
I just didn't know why.

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Hachiroku ハチロク - 09 May 2009 17:26 GMT
>>> How do you define "obsession"? Provide a response appropriate for someone
>>> over the age of 12.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I don't know about that.  I loved that stuff way before I was twelve.  
> I just didn't know why.

Bet you do now!  ;)
edspyhill01 - 08 May 2009 22:48 GMT
> > LET THE F---ING MAPLE SYRUP BUSNESS SEND A LETTER TO IHOP!
>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> </JS>

Now, now, there's been just a few republicans in men's rooms matching
plugs and jacks randomly.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 09 May 2009 00:12 GMT
>> > LET THE F---ING MAPLE SYRUP BUSNESS SEND A LETTER TO IHOP!
>>
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> Now, now, there's been just a few republicans in men's rooms matching
> plugs and jacks randomly.

What?!?! Never! Never happen!

(Hmmm...always wondered why they called themselves "LOG cabin Republicans"...)
bogusmailmark@yahoo.com - 08 May 2009 14:59 GMT
The point is, Dr. Trivia, that Schumer should be urging the NY maple
syrup industry to COMPETE with their counterparts from Vermont, rather
than lobbying IHOP to provide a higher cost product which makes it
less competitive.

Of course Comrade Schumer knows little about free enterprise or the
capitalist system, and hates what little he does know.

On May 8, 2:10 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net>
wrote:

> >http://wnymedia.net/blogs/2009/04/schumer-urges-ihop-to-use-ny-maple-...
>
> > Chuck Amok...
>
> It's hilarious to see the sh.t you obsess about, while ignoring what's
> important.
JoeSpareBedroom - 08 May 2009 15:16 GMT
The cost of either state's pure syrup is far more than the artificial stuff,
due to the methods needed to produce it, and the fact that suppliers can't
just ramp up production like suppliers of high fructose corn syrup. Both
Schumer and you are sadly disconnected from reality.

The point is, Dr. Trivia, that Schumer should be urging the NY maple
syrup industry to COMPETE with their counterparts from Vermont, rather
than lobbying IHOP to provide a higher cost product which makes it
less competitive.

Of course Comrade Schumer knows little about free enterprise or the
capitalist system, and hates what little he does know.

On May 8, 2:10 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net>
wrote:

> >http://wnymedia.net/blogs/2009/04/schumer-urges-ihop-to-use-ny-maple-...
>
> > Chuck Amok...
>
> It's hilarious to see the sh.t you obsess about, while ignoring what's
> important.
bogusmailmark@yahoo.com - 08 May 2009 15:20 GMT
You mean the real stuff is harder to make/get than the fake stuff?
Wow Dr. Syrup, you amaze me with your in-depth knowledge and
commentary on SOOOO many subjects...

On May 8, 10:16 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net>
wrote:
> The cost of either state's pure syrup is far more than the artificial stuff,
> due to the methods needed to produce it, and the fact that suppliers can't
> just ramp up production like suppliers of high fructose corn syrup. Both
> Schumer and you are sadly disconnected from reality.
JoeSpareBedroom - 08 May 2009 15:41 GMT
If you realize this, how do you expect the industry to compete with the
makers of the fake stuff, unless you belief maple trees grow to usable size
as quickly as corn?

You mean the real stuff is harder to make/get than the fake stuff?
Wow Dr. Syrup, you amaze me with your in-depth knowledge and
commentary on SOOOO many subjects...

On May 8, 10:16 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net>
wrote:
> The cost of either state's pure syrup is far more than the artificial
> stuff,
> due to the methods needed to produce it, and the fact that suppliers can't
> just ramp up production like suppliers of high fructose corn syrup. Both
> Schumer and you are sadly disconnected from reality.
bogusmailmark@yahoo.com - 08 May 2009 15:52 GMT
I never said that, you need to pay attention.

On May 8, 10:41 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net>
wrote:
> If you realize this, how do you expect the industry to compete with the
> makers of the fake stuff, unless you belief maple trees grow to usable size
> as quickly as corn?
JoeSpareBedroom - 08 May 2009 15:59 GMT
Sorry - you're right. I read too fast.

I never said that, you need to pay attention.

On May 8, 10:41 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net>
wrote:
> If you realize this, how do you expect the industry to compete with the
> makers of the fake stuff, unless you belief maple trees grow to usable
> size
> as quickly as corn?
bogusmailmark@yahoo.com - 08 May 2009 16:10 GMT
Touche'   ;-)

On May 8, 10:59 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net>
wrote:
> Sorry - you're right. I read too fast.
JoeSpareBedroom - 08 May 2009 16:18 GMT
But even so, is it really a matter of the two states competing? Or, is the
issue whether a family of four will use $4.00 worth of real syrup, thereby
wiping out enough profit that IHOP is unwilling to put up with it? Have you
checked the price of real maple syrup recently?

Touche'   ;-)

On May 8, 10:59 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net>
wrote:
> Sorry - you're right. I read too fast.
bogusmailmark@yahoo.com - 08 May 2009 16:35 GMT
Yes, I have distant family in Pennsylvania who tap the trees and make
syrup for extra farm income.  We use a small $7 bottle of it about
every month.

On May 8, 11:18 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net>
wrote:
> But even so, is it really a matter of the two states competing? Or, is the
> issue whether a family of four will use $4.00 worth of real syrup, thereby
> wiping out enough profit that IHOP is unwilling to put up with it? Have you
> checked the price of real maple syrup recently?
JoeSpareBedroom - 08 May 2009 16:42 GMT
Well, my opinion, which I can't prove, is that if IHOP thought "Let's buy
real syrup in large enough volume that it won't dent our bottom line too
much.", they couldn't do it. I don't think the production is there, or could
be anytime soon. It might be easier in Vermont, since they only have one
restaurant there. NY is another story. 15+ locations just upstate, and I
didn't check the NYC region. That's a lot of syrup.

Yes, I have distant family in Pennsylvania who tap the trees and make
syrup for extra farm income.  We use a small $7 bottle of it about
every month.

On May 8, 11:18 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net>
wrote:
> But even so, is it really a matter of the two states competing? Or, is the
> issue whether a family of four will use $4.00 worth of real syrup, thereby
> wiping out enough profit that IHOP is unwilling to put up with it? Have
> you
> checked the price of real maple syrup recently?
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 May 2009 16:55 GMT
> Well, my opinion, which I can't prove, is that if IHOP thought "Let's buy
> real syrup in large enough volume that it won't dent our bottom line too
> much.", they couldn't do it. I don't think the production is there, or could
> be anytime soon. It might be easier in Vermont, since they only have one
> restaurant there. NY is another story. 15+ locations just upstate, and I
> didn't check the NYC region. That's a lot of syrup.

Sure is. At a large cost. Probably 7-15 times the cost of bulk 'pancake'
syrup depending on how good the sugaring season was this year. Last year
was not too good, so there's not a lot of 'stock'. This year was also
below average. Which means they'll have to raise prices to cover the cost.
This is called 'inflation'. Inflation during a recession is bad, Joe. Very
bad.

Look it up. It's out there. Schumer's out there. You're out there.
JoeSpareBedroom - 08 May 2009 17:02 GMT
>> Well, my opinion, which I can't prove, is that if IHOP thought "Let's buy
>> real syrup in large enough volume that it won't dent our bottom line too
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Look it up. It's out there. Schumer's out there. You're out there.

I just said Schumer's idea wasn't practical. Read slower and wipe the spit
off your chin.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 May 2009 17:53 GMT
>>> Well, my opinion, which I can't prove, is that if IHOP thought "Let's buy
>>> real syrup in large enough volume that it won't dent our bottom line too
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> I just said Schumer's idea wasn't practical. Read slower and wipe the spit
> off your chin.

Then why the *HELL* are you defending his action?
SMS - 08 May 2009 16:59 GMT
> Well, my opinion, which I can't prove, is that if IHOP thought "Let's buy
> real syrup in large enough volume that it won't dent our bottom line too
> much.", they couldn't do it. I don't think the production is there, or could
> be anytime soon. It might be easier in Vermont, since they only have one
> restaurant there. NY is another story. 15+ locations just upstate, and I
> didn't check the NYC region. That's a lot of syrup.

No one suggested legislating that IHOP serve maple syrup, they are just
suggesting that it would be a good idea to have it available. Much like
the Florida orange growers encourage restaurants in the state to serve
Florida orange juice, and California wine makers encourage restaurants
to serve California wine.

IHOP could offer maple syrup as an extra-cost side item. The IHOP near
me has a card on the table with a list of "side dishes" one of which is
whipped cream. IHOP could certainly add maple syrup to the list and
charge 50 cents for it. OTOH, selling maple syrup, may make customers
ask just what is actually in the free syrup.

I went to he IHOP near me for the first time in April, after living here
for nine years. My daughter's scouting Venture Crew wanted go there
after an event, and not much is open around here after 10:00 p.m.. It
was as awful as I imagined it would be. When I told he waitress that I
had ordered a chocolate milk shake, not chocolate milk, she informed me
that what I had received was a milk shake, but she did have it made
over, this time with real ice cream (or as real as you can expect from
IHOP).
JoeSpareBedroom - 08 May 2009 17:04 GMT
>> Well, my opinion, which I can't prove, is that if IHOP thought "Let's buy
>> real syrup in large enough volume that it won't dent our bottom line too
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> what I had received was a milk shake, but she did have it made over, this
> time with real ice cream (or as real as you can expect from IHOP).

They used to be filthy, sticky places when I first visited them in Long
Island, in the 1960s. The one near my home in this city is spotless and well
run. It's a franchise operation, with all the potential pitfalls common to
franchises.
SMS - 08 May 2009 17:16 GMT
> They used to be filthy, sticky places when I first visited them in Long
> Island, in the 1960s. The one near my home in this city is spotless and well
> run. It's a franchise operation, with all the potential pitfalls common to
> franchises.

I remember the first one I went to in my home town in Florida in the
1960's. Amazingly, it's still there, probably the only business still in
the downtown area that has survived that long. My aunt used to love that
place. When it opened we were amused at the "Sandwiches Steaks" sign
that they hung under their regular sign, trying to assure potential
customers that they were not just a breakfast/pancake restaurant.

They outlasted Sambo's, Royal Castle, Howard Johnson's and a lot of
other chains.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 May 2009 17:52 GMT
>> Well, my opinion, which I can't prove, is that if IHOP thought "Let's buy
>> real syrup in large enough volume that it won't dent our bottom line too
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Florida orange juice, and California wine makers encourage restaurants
> to serve California wine.

Those aren't government office holders. A manufacturer's lobbying group
can lobby another company to use their products. It's called "Sales" or
"Promotions". Look it up. It's out there.

It's another thing for a Congressman to write to the corporation, isn't it?

Oh. You're a Liberal Democrat. Sorry. You need government to do your
things for you.
JoeSpareBedroom - 08 May 2009 17:54 GMT
>>> Well, my opinion, which I can't prove, is that if IHOP thought "Let's
>>> buy
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Oh. You're a Liberal Democrat. Sorry. You need government to do your
> things for you.

Right. Republicans never meddle in business issues.
Jeff Strickland - 08 May 2009 16:39 GMT
>> U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer today wrote the International House of
>> Pancakes (IHOP) CEO Julia Stewart urging her to offer New York State
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> It's hilarious to see the sh.t you obsess about, while ignoring what's
> important.

What's even more hilarious is, you ignore the sh.t your own senator obsesses
about while the world swirls down the drain. And that doesn't even consider
the fact that you ignore the fact that he played a huge role in some of the
problems that are important.
JoeSpareBedroom - 08 May 2009 16:48 GMT
>>> U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer today wrote the International House of
>>> Pancakes (IHOP) CEO Julia Stewart urging her to offer New York State
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> even consider the fact that you ignore the fact that he played a huge role
> in some of the problems that are important.

Do you think elected officials should drop all other issues until the Middle
East and the economy are "fixed"?
SMS - 08 May 2009 17:03 GMT
> Do you think elected officials should drop all other issues until the Middle
> East and the economy are "fixed"?

Exactly! Elected officials need to be able to deal with a multitude of
issues, some of which are of more importance than others. Fortunately we
now have a president that is able to multi-task, and look at the big
picture, something we lacked for eight years. Similarly, congresspeople
need to pay attention to a lot of different issues of varied significance.

Undoing the Bush mess will take time, not just legislation. There's
plenty of time for elected officials to work on other issues while the
recovery kicks in.
bogusmailmark@yahoo.com - 08 May 2009 17:09 GMT
Gotta agree there, he is setting new benchmarks for screw-up
velocity...

Fortunately we now have a president that is able to multi-task,
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 May 2009 17:50 GMT
On Fri, 08 May 2009 09:09:04 -0700, bogusmailmark wrote:

> Gotta agree there, he is setting new benchmarks for screw-up
> velocity...
>
>  Fortunately we now have a president that is able to multi-task,

Really. He can mess up many things at once, instead of the one or two Bush
did.

I believe he's set a new record.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 08 May 2009 17:49 GMT
>> Do you think elected officials should drop all other issues until the Middle
>> East and the economy are "fixed"?
>
> Exactly! Elected officials need to be able to deal with a multitude of
> issues, some of which are of more importance than others.

And choice of maple syrup ranks right up there!
Jeff Strickland - 08 May 2009 19:00 GMT
>>>> U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer today wrote the International House of
>>>> Pancakes (IHOP) CEO Julia Stewart urging her to offer New York State
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> Do you think elected officials should drop all other issues until the
> Middle East and the economy are "fixed"?

Where do you get that idea?

Do you even realize yoiu are the cheering section for an idiot that has
screwed up damn near everything he's been involved in, and now is making it
his job to sell maple syrup? Your priorities for leadership are all screwed
up.
 
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