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{OT} The Department of Energy.....

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Scott  in  Florida - 29 Jun 2009 12:54 GMT
Let it sink in.
Quietly we go like sheep to slaughter.
Does anybody out there have any memory of the reason given  for the
establishment of the DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY ..... during the Carter
Administration?  

Anybody?  
Anything?
No?  
Didn't think so!
Bottom line ... we've spent several hundred billion dollars in support
of an agency ...the reason for which not one person who reads this can
remember.  Ready???????  It was very simple ..  and at the time
everybody thought it very appropriate...

The 'Department of Energy' was instituted on

8-04-1977  
TO LESSEN OUR DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL.  
Hey, pretty efficient, huh? ????
AND NOW IT'S 2009,   32 YEARS LATER  ... AND THE BUDGET FOR THIS  

NECESSARY DEPARTMENT IS AT$24.2 BILLION A YEAR

    IT HAS

16,000 FEDERAL EMPLOYEES

AND APPROXIMATELY

100,000 CONTRACT EMPLOYEES

AND LOOK AT THE JOB IT HAS DONE!
THIS IS WHERE YOU SLAP YOUR FOREHEAD AND SAY

'WHAT WAS I THINKING?'

Ah, yes, good old bureaucracy...

And NOW we are going to turn the Banking System,

Health Care & the Auto Industry over to government?

GOD HELP US!
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JoeSpareBedroom - 29 Jun 2009 13:47 GMT
> Let it sink in.
> Quietly we go like sheep to slaughter.
> Does anybody out there have any memory of the reason given  for the
> establishment of the DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY ..... during the Carter
> Administration?

Copied and pasted. Funny.
matrixxx09 - 29 Jun 2009 14:54 GMT
> Let it sink in.
> Quietly we go like sheep to slaughter.
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
>
>  Scott in Florida

The following doesn't benefit any "side" more than the other-- I'm
just putting it in for clarification, as the original post may lead
one to conclude that the only function of the DOE is "TO LESSEN OUR
DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL", and to conclude based on our failure to
achieve that goal that the dept. is totally useless (as the poster
had).

So here are the goals of the DOE:

------------------------
The Department of Energy's overarching mission is to advance the
national, economic, and energy security of the United States; to
promote scientific and technological innovation in support of that
mission; and to ensure the environmental cleanup of the national
nuclear weapons complex. The Department's strategic goals to achieve
the mission are designed to deliver results along five strategic
themes:

Energy Security:  Promoting America’s energy security through
reliable, clean, and affordable energy

Nuclear Security:  Ensuring America’s nuclear security

    Scientific Discovery and Innovation:  Strengthening U.S. scientific
discovery, economic competitiveness, and improving quality of life
through innovations in science and technology

Environmental Responsibility:  Protecting the environment by providing
a responsible resolution to the environmental legacy of nuclear
weapons production

    Management Excellence:  Enabling the mission through sound management
---------------------------
JoeSpareBedroom - 29 Jun 2009 15:04 GMT
Further clarification:

"Secretive, bureaucratic and unmanageable would be a better way to put it.
The department grew out of the Old Atomic Energy Commission, founded in 1946
largely to manage the nuclear weapons stored at Los Alamos, New Mexico.
Today, the DOE is a Kafkaesque empire with 17 national labs, 14,000 federal
employees and 93,000 contract workers scattered across the country. Its
primary job is not energy research, as its name would suggest, but
maintaining America’s nuclear stockpile and cleaning up the toxic mess left
behind by the manufacture of nuclear weapons. Of the DOE’s $26 billion
budget, some two-thirds goes to the care and cleanup of nukes. Even worse,
the department remains steeped in a Cold War mind-set. The national labs,
where most of the DOE’s work is carried out, operate as overstaffed fiefdoms
with antiquated research priorities. Given the clout of their defenders in
Congress, overhauling the mission of the labs will likely be a long, slow
process at best."
matrixxx09 - 29 Jun 2009 15:26 GMT
On Jun 29, 10:04 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net>
wrote:

> Further clarification:
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Congress, overhauling the mission of the labs will likely be a long, slow
> process at best."

Thanks.

It's no wonder folks have the wrong idea about so many things.

They hear something they *want* to hear and so stop right there
without looking to find out what the TRUTH actually is.

Sad.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 30 Jun 2009 00:30 GMT
> Today, the DOE is a Kafkaesque

Where did this come from?
matrixxx09 - 29 Jun 2009 19:21 GMT
> Let it sink in.
> Quietly we go like sheep to slaughter.
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
>
>  Scott in Florida

See?  Another example.

We have totally obliterated the point of your post, and rather than
fighting back, you're off in a corner crying.

C'mon.   We just destroyed your post with facts.  Show some backbone
and fight back.
JoeSpareBedroom - 29 Jun 2009 19:23 GMT
On Jun 29, 7:54 am, Scott  in  Florida <Mov...@outa.here> wrote:
> Let it sink in.
> Quietly we go like sheep to slaughter.
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
>
> Scott in Florida

See?  Another example.

We have totally obliterated the point of your post, and rather than
fighting back, you're off in a corner crying.

C'mon.   We just destroyed your post with facts.  Show some backbone
and fight back.
===================

Or at least admit he's wrong, something my kid was man enough to do when he
about 14.
matrixxx09 - 29 Jun 2009 20:12 GMT
On Jun 29, 2:23 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net>
wrote:

> Or at least admit he's wrong, something my kid was man enough to do when he
> about 14.

Yes, exactly.

You know, I watched him do some really bizarre things.

But in hindsight, and now with enough information to see the 'bigger
picture', I can see the common denominator to all his actions (eg
reliance on a small set of beliefs, and his tendency to repeat them
like a mantra when faced with problematic evidence; declaring victory
after doing absolutely nothing; ignoring facts;  overreliance on
'feelings' in place of fact and logic;  and just altogether ignoring
facts presented to him.).

It's so simple.

It's something I've seen in him before, but I saw it as one of many
symptoms rather than his most prominent character trait.  Now I know
better.

He's a coward.
Scott  in  Florida - 30 Jun 2009 01:18 GMT
>It's so simple.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>He's a coward.

ROFLMAO

Come on down.....

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JoeSpareBedroom - 30 Jun 2009 01:21 GMT
>>It's so simple.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Scott in Florida

Why should he come on down? So you can hide from him? I remember when you
were planning on visiting my home with your non-existent military son to
collect your money. You never showed, you old pusswad.
Scott  in  Florida - 30 Jun 2009 01:45 GMT
>>>It's so simple.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>were planning on visiting my home with your non-existent military son to
>collect your money. You never showed, you old pusswad.

So you want me to come get the money you lost to me?

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JoeSpareBedroom - 30 Jun 2009 06:46 GMT
>>>>It's so simple.
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> So you want me to come get the money you lost to me?

Yes.
matrixxx09 - 30 Jun 2009 14:50 GMT
> On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:12:35 -0700 (PDT), matrixxx09
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Come on down.....

Dude, stop being a coward, say 'whoops' about your debunked claim, and
move on.
Mike - 29 Jun 2009 20:19 GMT
Oh my God don't tell us "Joe$#itForBrains" reproduced?

"Joe$#itForBrains" <newstrash@frontiernet.net> wrote in message

>> GOD HELP US!
>> --
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Or at least admit he's wrong, something my kid was man enough to do when
> he about 14.
Scott  in  Florida - 30 Jun 2009 01:19 GMT
>Oh my God don't tell us "Joe$#itForBrains" reproduced?

ROFLMAO

Yup....

That is his son.....

>"Joe$#itForBrains" <newstrash@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>> he about 14.
>
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CharlesTheCurmudgeon - 30 Jun 2009 03:33 GMT
>>Oh my God don't tell us "Joe$#itForBrains" reproduced?
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> That is his son.....

OH MY GOD, Joe's been pissing in the gene pool again.

Charles Grozny.
Scott  in  Florida - 30 Jun 2009 01:17 GMT
>Or at least admit he's wrong, something my kid was man enough to do when he
>about 14.

Is that the kid that has a problem with the law?

That kid?

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Scott  in  Florida - 30 Jun 2009 01:16 GMT
>> Let it sink in.
>> Quietly we go like sheep to slaughter.
[quoted text clipped - 51 lines]
>C'mon.   We just destroyed your post with facts.  Show some backbone
>and fight back.

You haven't destroyed anything.

The purpose of the Department of Energy was to make America not
dependent on foreign oil.

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JoeSpareBedroom - 30 Jun 2009 01:22 GMT
>>> Let it sink in.
>>> Quietly we go like sheep to slaughter.
[quoted text clipped - 56 lines]
> The purpose of the Department of Energy was to make America not
> dependent on foreign oil.

Not according to their own web site, or the way the agency's budget is
arranged.
Scott  in  Florida - 30 Jun 2009 01:45 GMT
>>>> Let it sink in.
>>>> Quietly we go like sheep to slaughter.
[quoted text clipped - 59 lines]
>Not according to their own web site, or the way the agency's budget is
>arranged.

That is NOW, dip wad.....

The ORIGINAL purpose....was.........

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JoeSpareBedroom - 30 Jun 2009 06:47 GMT
>>>>> Let it sink in.
>>>>> Quietly we go like sheep to slaughter.
[quoted text clipped - 63 lines]
>
> The ORIGINAL purpose....was.........

....to oversee the maintenance of our nuclear arsenal and nuclear power
plants.
Scott  in  Florida - 30 Jun 2009 14:27 GMT
>>>>>> Let it sink in.
>>>>>> Quietly we go like sheep to slaughter.
[quoted text clipped - 66 lines]
>....to oversee the maintenance of our nuclear arsenal and nuclear power
>plants.

Wrong...

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Scott  in  Florida - 30 Jun 2009 01:48 GMT
>>>> Let it sink in.
>>>> Quietly we go like sheep to slaughter.
[quoted text clipped - 59 lines]
>Not according to their own web site, or the way the agency's budget is
>arranged.

http://www.reason.com/news/show/34845.html

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