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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / July 2009{BS} At what point does a fetus become a baby?
This question, although clearly politically loaded, is not equivalent to asking things like: "When does life begin"? or "Should abortion be illegal?" or "Does a xxx feel or understand pain and sadness when in the womb?" It's a language usage question. >This question, although clearly politically loaded, is not equivalent >to asking things like: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >It's a language usage question. There are easy answers to all your questions.  SignatureScott in Florida > This question, although clearly politically loaded, is not equivalent > to asking things like: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > It's a language usage question. Life begins at conception. It really is that simple. No rocket science involved. > > This question, although clearly politically loaded, is not equivalent > > to asking things like: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Life begins at conception. It really is that simple. No rocket science > involved. Thanks for your opinion on THAT, but what about the fetus vs. baby distinction? >> > This question, although clearly politically loaded, is not equivalent >> > to asking things like: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Thanks for your opinion on THAT, but what about the fetus vs. baby > distinction? What difference does that make? LIFE begins at conception, as soon as cells start reproducing. When do the mass of cells become a 'baby'? We could split hairs for weeks. > >> > This question, although clearly politically loaded, is not equivalent > >> > to asking things like: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > LIFE begins at conception, as soon as cells start reproducing. Like I said, your opinion was noted and appreciated. The question first occurred to me when the abortion doctor was shot recently. I noticed that Bill O'Reilly, that day, kept using the phrase "destroying fetuses", when previously he always used the phrase "killing babies". Since then I've noticed that people use the term 'baby' to refer to a fetus, and they haven't been questioned on it. Same in this NG. > When do the mass of cells become a 'baby'? So it goes right from zygote to baby? > We could split hairs for weeks. The distinction between a mass of cells and a baby is hardly splitting hairs. The difference between those two things is larger than between a mouse and a baby (in terms of intelligence, awareness, ability to experience pain, etc.). But we'd all agree a mouse and a baby are worlds apart. >> On Jul 21, 11:33 am, Hachiroku ???? <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote: >>> > This question, although clearly politically loaded, is not equivalent [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > What difference does that make? Well, it's like this: Some people explore intereresting questions just for the hell of it. Other people crave simple binary answers, and get angrier by the day when they can't have those simple answers. Someday, you might get lucky and become a member of the first category. Maybe if you'd taken some courses in college that were tougher than "History Of Butter Knives 101", you'd already be in that first category. >>> On Jul 21, 11:33 am, Hachiroku ???? <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote: >>>> > This question, although clearly politically loaded, is not equivalent [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > courses in college that were tougher than "History Of Butter Knives 101", > you'd already be in that first category. At least *I* didn't fail BsktWv101. Now, do you have a real answer to the quandry, or just your usual ignorant ad hominems? >>>> On Jul 21, 11:33 am, Hachiroku ???? <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote: >>>>> > This question, although clearly politically loaded, is not [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > At least *I* didn't fail BsktWv101. Yes you did. > Now, do you have a real answer to the quandry, or just your usual ignorant > ad hominems? They're not ignorant ad hominens. They're excellent ad hominens based on perfect observations of your kneejerk reactions to issues you don't have the intellectual ability to discuss in a rational way. >> Now, do you have a real answer to the quandry, or just your usual ignorant >> ad hominems? > > They're not ignorant ad hominens. They're ad hominens based on > perfect observations of your kneejerk reactions to issues you don't have the > intellectual ability to discuss in a rational way. Yeah, that's what I thought. Blah, Blah, Blah. Never say anything. >>>>> On Jul 21, 11:33 am, Hachiroku ???? <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote: >>>>>> > This question, although clearly politically loaded, is not [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > perfect observations of your kneejerk reactions to issues you don't have the > intellectual ability to discuss in a rational way. You never fu@king say *ANYTHING* >>> On Jul 21, 11:33 am, Hachiroku ???? <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote: >>>> > This question, although clearly politically loaded, is not equivalent [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > courses in college that were tougher than "History Of Butter Knives 101", > you'd already be in that first category. You never fu@king say *ANYTHING* Here's a tougher one... How can a president who supports partial birth abortion and takes the most extreme left position on any issue related to abortion possibly give a RAT'S A$$ about anyone's health care? Could it be this "concern" is just another power grab by the neo- Socialists? Hmmm??? > This question, although clearly politically loaded, is not equivalent > to asking things like: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > It's a language usage question. > Here's a tougher one... > > How can a president who supports partial birth abortion and takes the > most extreme left position on any issue related to abortion possibly > give a RAT'S A$$ about anyone's health care? That's more than 'tougher'. It's unanswerable. Just like this one: How can a president who wants to outlaw partial birth abortion and takes the most extreme right position on any issue related to abortion possibly give a RAT'S A$$ about anyone's health care? It must be awful navigating your life with no moral compass... best of luck > That's more than 'tougher'. It's unanswerable. Just like this one: > > How can a president who wants to outlaw partial birth abortion and > takes the most extreme right position on any issue related to abortion > possibly give a RAT'S A$$ about anyone's health care? > It must be awful navigating your life with no moral compass... best > of luck Thanks, Mark. What does killing the unborn have to do with healthcare? The Congress apparently agrees. Federal law says federal money can not be used to pay for abortions, except outside the US, because of BO's Executive order allowing federal money to be spent for abortions outside the US. I find it ironic that the first black President now will pay for black babies to be killed in Africa. On Jul 21, 11:34 am, Mark <bogusmailm...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Here's a tougher one... > > How can a president who supports partial birth abortion and takes the > most extreme left position on any issue related to abortion possibly > give a RAT'S A$$ about anyone's health care? That's more than 'tougher'. It's unanswerable. Just like this one: How can a president who wants to outlaw partial birth abortion and takes the most extreme right position on any issue related to abortion possibly give a RAT'S A$$ about anyone's health care? |
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