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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / July 2009TWO THIRDS of bankruptcies are caused by medical bills. More than half of that are people with INSURANCE.
It's just not right that a single event can ruin your life. Someone hits you in an auto accident. Police determine that "no one is at fault" so your own insurance needs to pay for your medical bills. You have excellent (and expensive) insurance with the standard 80/20. As you're sitting in your wheelchair, wishing the rest of the pain would go away, the bills start coming in. It's not unusual for one event to cost you $20K WITH good insurance. It's not unusual that one event could cost you more than $40K because of the need for a prosthetic. Again, that's WITH insurance. Without insurance you're stuck with crutches because you really can't afford a knee costing nearly 20K. It's also not usual for someone to be denied coverage because of a pre-existing condition. No matter WHAT that condition is. We NEED national coverage that doesn't bankrupt you when something completely beyond your control effects your life. We NEED to get away from the "This will be Obama's downfall" crap and say "This will be the time the US takes the lead in building a GOOD healthcare system where the DOCTORS make the decisions. Just once I'd like to see everyone step up and admit it's the right thing to do.  Signaturegburnore@databasix dot com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- How you look depends on where you go. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary L. Burnore | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ DataBasix | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ 3 4 1 4 2 ݳ޳ 6 9 0 6 9 ÝÛ³ Black Helicopter Repair Svcs Division | Official Proof of Purchase =========================================================================== Want one? GET one! http://signup.databasix.com =========================================================================== >Just once I'd like to see everyone step up and admit it's the right thing to >do. It is NOT the right thing to do. It would be a disaster. EVERYONE that has done it, is sorry. SignatureScott in Florida >>Just once I'd like to see everyone step up and admit it's the right thing to >>do. > >It is NOT the right thing to do. You'd prefer everyone file bankruptcy. Got it. Signaturegburnore@databasix dot com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- How you look depends on where you go. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary L. Burnore | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ DataBasix | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ 3 4 1 4 2 ݳ޳ 6 9 0 6 9 ÝÛ³ Black Helicopter Repair Svcs Division | Official Proof of Purchase =========================================================================== Want one? GET one! http://signup.databasix.com =========================================================================== >>>Just once I'd like to see everyone step up and admit it's the right thing to >>>do. >> >>It is NOT the right thing to do. > >You'd prefer everyone file bankruptcy. Got it. You are a hell of a lot better of with bankruptcy than turning your health care over to government bureaucrats.... SignatureScott in Florida >>>>Just once I'd like to see everyone step up and admit it's the right thing to >>>>do. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >You are a hell of a lot better of with bankruptcy than turning your >health care over to government bureaucrats.... So you're cool with everyone paying the cost when someone files bankruptcy. Got it. Signaturegburnore@databasix dot com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- How you look depends on where you go. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary L. Burnore | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ DataBasix | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ 3 4 1 4 2 ݳ޳ 6 9 0 6 9 ÝÛ³ Black Helicopter Repair Svcs Division | Official Proof of Purchase =========================================================================== Want one? GET one! http://signup.databasix.com =========================================================================== >>>>>Just once I'd like to see everyone step up and admit it's the right thing to >>>>>do. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >So you're cool with everyone paying the cost when someone files bankruptcy. >Got it. So you are kewl with everyone having lousy health care. Got it. btw America has the BEST health care in the World. Why do you Dims want to f.ck it up? SignatureScott in Florida >>>>>>Just once I'd like to see everyone step up and admit it's the right thing to >>>>>>do. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >So you are kewl with everyone having lousy health care. Nope. Not at all. YOU can keep your crappy azzed insurance and others can go with what they want. >Got it. > >btw America has the BEST health care in the World. It may, but only the rich can use it. >Why do you Dims want to f.ck it up? You know full well I'm not a Democrat, neocon. Signaturegburnore@databasix dot com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- How you look depends on where you go. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary L. Burnore | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ DataBasix | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ 3 4 1 4 2 ݳ޳ 6 9 0 6 9 ÝÛ³ Black Helicopter Repair Svcs Division | Official Proof of Purchase =========================================================================== Want one? GET one! http://signup.databasix.com =========================================================================== >>btw America has the BEST health care in the World. > >It may, but only the rich can use it. Then get rich.... SignatureScott in Florida >>>btw America has the BEST health care in the World. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Three Sheets to the Wind Again in Florida Yeah. Standard Republican answer. What about the people who change your diapers? How would you suggest that THEY afford health insurance? >>>>btw America has the BEST health care in the World. >>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Yeah. Standard Republican answer. What about the people who change your > diapers? How would you suggest that THEY afford health insurance? You never fu@king say *ANYTHING* > It's just not right that a single event can ruin your life. > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Just once I'd like to see everyone step up and admit it's the right thing to > do. I've got what is supposed to be good health insurance. Went to the doc the other day, he ordered the standard tests for someone my age, I haven't been getting them done because I can't get a few simple basic questions answered. All I wanted to know was, are the tests covered by my insurance and how much out of pocket am I going to be? He didn't know, the front office didn't know, they said call the lab and gave me the number. Called the lab they didn't know but said to call the billing dept, they didn't know gave me another number, this went on until I arrived back at the billing dept. I finally called the doc's office and told them they might as well go ahead and put a note in my file and not expect me to get the tests this go around either. The lady said she would check it out and get back to me, I haven't heard from them yet and don't expect to, and six months from now it will be the same thing. I am ready for nationalized health care, I'm not getting much health care now for a lot of money paid for insurance and I'll take my chances with anything other than what we now have. >> It's just not right that a single event can ruin your life. Someone hits >> you in an auto accident. Police determine that "no one is at [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >> right thing to >> do. > I've got what is supposed to be good health insurance. Went to the doc > the other day, he ordered the standard tests for someone my age, I haven't [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > care now for a lot of money paid for insurance and I'll take my chances > with anything other than what we now have. Lab work is a product. Doctor office care is a product. Insurance is a product. Why did you ask the lab and the doctor about a product they're don't sell? Why not call your insurer? That *always* works for me. Always. >>> It's just not right that a single event can ruin your life. Someone hits >>> you in an auto accident. Police determine that "no one is at [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > Why did you ask the lab and the doctor about a product they're don't sell? > Why not call your insurer? That *always* works for me. Always. With the option I went with, the first 500 is paid 100% I want to stay under the 500 bucks. I need to know how much the tests will run so I can stay under the limit. Also have to allow for a couple of doc office visits at 75 bucks a pop. >>>> It's just not right that a single event can ruin your life. Someone >>>> hits you in an auto accident. Police determine that "no one is at [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > stay under the limit. Also have to allow for a couple of doc office > visits at 75 bucks a pop. That doesn't answer my question. I wanted to know why you called the plumber and the well digging company to ask how much steaks were on sale for this week. >>>>> It's just not right that a single event can ruin your life. Someone >>>>> hits you in an auto accident. Police determine that "no one is at [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > and the well digging company to ask how much steaks were on sale for this > week. What the f.ck are you talking about now? Somewhere there is a newsgroup in need of a new idiot, why don't you go help them? >>>>>> It's just not right that a single event can ruin your life. Someone >>>>>> hits you in an auto accident. Police determine that "no one is at [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > What the f.ck are you talking about now? Somewhere there is a newsgroup > in need of a new idiot, why don't you go help them? It's not the job of the people at the lab and the people at the doctor's office to answer questions about how your insurance covers every type of service. You asked the wrong people. You should've called your insurer. It's THEIR JOB to explain that information, especially since nobody reads the 20 lb pamphlet which they absolutely received when they signed up for their insurance. Why did you ask the wrong people (lab, doctor)? >> What the f.ck are you talking about now? Somewhere there is a newsgroup >> in need of a new idiot, why don't you go help them? > > Why did you ask the wrong people (lab, doctor)? You never fu@king say *ANYTHING* >>>>>> It's just not right that a single event can ruin your life. Someone >>>>>> hits you in an auto accident. Police determine that "no one is at [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > What the f.ck are you talking about now? Somewhere there is a >newsgroup in need of a new idiot, why don't you go help them? Moe, he's right. In the end it's your INSURANCE company who decides how much it will cost you. No one else. Even if the dr bills them 1000, you might have to pay 100 or 300, depending on your insurance company. Signaturegburnore@databasix dot com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- How you look depends on where you go. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary L. Burnore | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ DataBasix | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ 3 4 1 4 2 ݳ޳ 6 9 0 6 9 ÝÛ³ Black Helicopter Repair Svcs Division | Official Proof of Purchase =========================================================================== Want one? GET one! http://signup.databasix.com =========================================================================== >> With the option I went with, the first 500 is paid 100% I want to stay >> under the 500 bucks. I need to know how much the tests will run so I can >> stay under the limit. Also have to allow for a couple of doc office >> visits at 75 bucks a pop. > > That doesn't answer my question. You never fu@king say *ANYTHING* >>> It's just not right that a single event can ruin your life. Someone hits >>> you in an auto accident. Police determine that "no one is at [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] >Why did you ask the lab and the doctor about a product they're don't sell? >Why not call your insurer? That *always* works for me. Always. If your boy Bambi gets his way, a postal employee will decide for you what you get. Matter of fact, I'll get a job with the government and I'll be in charge of your health care. You can bet I'll put you thru hell..... SignatureScott in Florida > If your boy Bambi gets his way, a postal employee will decide for you > what you get. > > Scott in Florida Yeah. You just read that "postal employee" bit in some email full of text stolen from some hysterical blog writer. It'll circulate for a few days and then vanish. >> If your boy Bambi gets his way, a postal employee will decide for you >> what you get. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >stolen from some hysterical blog writer. It'll circulate for a few days and >then vanish. You tell me what quality of government bureaucrat you think will be taking care of you..... SignatureScott in Florida >>> If your boy Bambi gets his way, a postal employee will decide for you >>> what you get. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > You tell me what quality of government bureaucrat you think will be > taking care of you..... Doesn't matter what I think. My only point is that you snagged the "postal employee" thing from another source, and you will repeat it for the next three days until you wear it out. Where did you steal it from? >> You tell me what quality of government bureaucrat you think will be >> taking care of you..... > > Doesn't matter what I think. You never fu@king say *ANYTHING* Oh, and it appears you don't think, at all. >> If your boy Bambi gets his way, a postal employee will decide for you >> what you get. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >stolen from some hysterical blog writer. It'll circulate for a few days and >then vanish. Everything he spews is from someone else. He's not allowed to have his own thoughts. Signaturegburnore@databasix dot com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- How you look depends on where you go. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary L. Burnore | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ DataBasix | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ 3 4 1 4 2 ݳ޳ 6 9 0 6 9 ÝÛ³ Black Helicopter Repair Svcs Division | Official Proof of Purchase =========================================================================== Want one? GET one! http://signup.databasix.com =========================================================================== >> If your boy Bambi gets his way, a postal employee will decide for you >> what you get. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > stolen from some hysterical blog writer. It'll circulate for a few days and > then vanish. You never fu@king say *ANYTHING* >>> If your boy Bambi gets his way, a postal employee will decide for you >>> what you get. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > You never fu@king say *ANYTHING* I do, and you missed it because you were fantasizing about your mom. Pay attention. >>> Yeah. You just read that "postal employee" bit in some email full of text >>> stolen from some hysterical blog writer. It'll circulate for a few days [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I do, and you missed it because you were fantasizing about your mom. Pay > attention. Yet another moronic, ad hominem reply, again, saying *nothing* . >> It's just not right that a single event can ruin your life. >> [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >care now for a lot of money paid for insurance and I'll take my chances >with anything other than what we now have. Do you like going to the DMV? Do you like going to the Post Office? Those are the people you are wanting to take care of you.... You are crazy as hell if you want the government to take care of your health care... Find out what you need to know and get the damned tests. Jeez SignatureScott in Florida Scott in Florida wrote: >>> It's just not right that a single event can ruin your life. >>> [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > Jeez I get a lot better service at the post office and DMV and the costs aren't hidden until I get the bill. >Scott in Florida wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] >I get a lot better service at the post office and DMV and the costs >aren't hidden until I get the bill. Well find out wtf the costs are. Ask the doctor's billing department how much. Call your insurance company and find out what they pay. This is NOT rocket science. This is NOT a reason to have idiots take over your health care. SignatureScott in Florida >>Scott in Florida wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > >This is NOT rocket science. No, but it's a racket, controlled by the insurance companies, supported by dupes like you. >This is NOT a reason to have idiots take over your health care. They're not taking over _YOUR_ healthcare so why do you care? Signaturegburnore@databasix dot com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- How you look depends on where you go. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary L. Burnore | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ DataBasix | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ 3 4 1 4 2 ݳ޳ 6 9 0 6 9 ÝÛ³ Black Helicopter Repair Svcs Division | Official Proof of Purchase =========================================================================== Want one? GET one! http://signup.databasix.com =========================================================================== >>>Scott in Florida wrote: >>>> [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > >They're not taking over _YOUR_ healthcare so why do you care? cause I care about this country. Anyone that wants or trusts Bambi and the Dims to take over their care is a fool. SignatureScott in Florida >>>>Scott in Florida wrote: >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] > >cause I care about this country. you're a liar. Pure and simple. Signaturegburnore@databasix dot com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- How you look depends on where you go. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary L. Burnore | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ DataBasix | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ 3 4 1 4 2 ݳ޳ 6 9 0 6 9 ÝÛ³ Black Helicopter Repair Svcs Division | Official Proof of Purchase =========================================================================== Want one? GET one! http://signup.databasix.com =========================================================================== Scott in Florida wrote: >> Scott in Florida wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > > This is NOT a reason to have idiots take over your health care. I'm telling ya, I've been there and done that, I spent over two hours on the phone punching buttons and sitting on hold. I can't get an answer from the doctor, the front office, or the lab, the lab company is the one that is actually the hold up. I worked for the gov't and I am pretty good at getting through bureaucracies but this one is something else. I must be the only a.shole that demands to know what this is gonna cost me when it comes to health care. It's really a rip off, the whole thing, the doc writes the lab tests needed and doesn't give a damn until I show up 6 months later and the tests aren't done, so he tells me the front desk will have the answers. They don't and don't care, they say that's the lab's business and they aren't part of the office. Call the lab and told to call billing which is in another city, and got nothing but a big run around. I could call the lab people and ask for a supervisor but I'm going to let the doc do that. I'll wait for obama to take care of it all, if he doesn't I'll vote for the SOB that will. >Scott in Florida wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 84 lines] > I'll wait for obama to take care of it all, if he doesn't I'll vote >for the SOB that will. YOU take care of it for god's sake. Call and ask how much the f.cking tests are gonna cost and get them. Jeez.... SignatureScott in Florida > Scott in Florida wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 93 lines] > I'll wait for obama to take care of it all, if he doesn't I'll vote for > the SOB that will. Once again: You were asking the wrong people for the information. If you need to know whether your insurance covers lab tests, you ask your insurance company. If you don't understand this, it's probably time to think about giving power of attorney to someone you trust because your situation's only going to get worse. >> Scott in Florida wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 98 lines] > giving power of attorney to someone you trust because your situation's only > going to get worse. The lab will have to be in the PPO system for my insurance to pay what the lab has agreed to charge them, no problem I can find that out from the insurance people. What I need to know is how much the lab tests will be so I can find out if I have enough left in this years account to pay for them. It's that easy, or would be if anyone from the lab would just answer some simple questions. Just sign all the papers when you go to a hospital and find out the hard way what is and what isn't covered by your insurance. Those doctors that stuck their head in the door, they will bill you and if they aren't in the system you get to pay the bill not your insurance. I ran into this with and anesthesiologist once that wasn't in our system and I refused to have the procedure until we got it cleared up front. Her bill would have been over 700 dollars and that was 10 years ago. As it was my insurance did pay 80% maybe all of it because I got it cleared first. By the way that was at an outpatient clinic owned by several doctors that decided to cut the hospital out of the middle. Want to talk about those radiologist bills that float in a few weeks or months after a visit to the hospital? People complain about taxes and cost of car repairs but they are afraid to question or raise hell about our sorry health care system. And yes, I would go to another country for health care, a lot of Americans do, it's cheaper, better and the nurses don't have tattoos. >> I'm telling ya, I've been there and done that, I spent over two hours >> on the phone punching buttons and sitting on hold. I can't get an answer [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Once again: You never fu@king say *ANYTHING* >>> It's just not right that a single event can ruin your life. >>> [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > >Do you like going to the DMV? I do. They're great here. >Do you like going to the Post Office? I do, they're quite friendly. >Those are the people you are wanting to take care of you.... No, your DOCTOR will take care of you. YOU can keep the crappy assed insurance you already carry if you want. Signaturegburnore@databasix dot com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- How you look depends on where you go. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary L. Burnore | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ DataBasix | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ 3 4 1 4 2 ݳ޳ 6 9 0 6 9 ÝÛ³ Black Helicopter Repair Svcs Division | Official Proof of Purchase =========================================================================== Want one? GET one! http://signup.databasix.com =========================================================================== >>>> It's just not right that a single event can ruin your life. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] >No, your DOCTOR will take care of you. YOU can keep the crappy assed insurance >you already carry if you want. That is just plain horse sh.t. If Bambi care comes in, all care will be thru your friendly government bureaucrat. SignatureScott in Florida >>>>> It's just not right that a single event can ruin your life. >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] >If Bambi care comes in, all care will be thru your friendly government >bureaucrat. That's simply not true and you know it. Why must you lie? Signaturegburnore@databasix dot com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- How you look depends on where you go. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary L. Burnore | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ DataBasix | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ 3 4 1 4 2 ݳ޳ 6 9 0 6 9 ÝÛ³ Black Helicopter Repair Svcs Division | Official Proof of Purchase =========================================================================== Want one? GET one! http://signup.databasix.com =========================================================================== >>If Bambi care comes in, all care will be thru your friendly government >>bureaucrat. > >That's simply not true and you know it. Why must you lie? Read a bit of the abomination the Dims call a healthcare bill and get back to me. I am right. You are wrong. End of story. SignatureScott in Florida >>>If Bambi care comes in, all care will be thru your friendly government >>>bureaucrat. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >I am right. Liar. >You are wrong. Fool. >End of story. Only in your narrow little mind. Signaturegburnore@databasix dot com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- How you look depends on where you go. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary L. Burnore | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ DataBasix | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ 3 4 1 4 2 ݳ޳ 6 9 0 6 9 ÝÛ³ Black Helicopter Repair Svcs Division | Official Proof of Purchase =========================================================================== Want one? GET one! http://signup.databasix.com =========================================================================== >>>>> It's just not right that a single event can ruin your life. >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] > > Scott in Florida Maybe you're right. Where did you hear that you won't be able to see your choice of doctor? I want to read what you've been reading. >>>>>> It's just not right that a single event can ruin your life. >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] >Maybe you're right. Where did you hear that you won't be able to see your >choice of doctor? I want to read what you've been reading. Read the bill..... SignatureScott in Florida >>>>On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:16:52 -0400, Scott in Florida >>>><MoveOn@outa.here> [quoted text clipped - 86 lines] > > Read the bill..... Did you read the bill? >>>Maybe you're right. Where did you hear that you won't be able to see your >>>choice of doctor? I want to read what you've been reading. >> >> Read the bill..... > > Did you read the bill? You never fu@king say *ANYTHING* >>>>>> It's just not right that a single event can ruin your life. >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] >Maybe you're right. Where did you hear that you won't be able to see your >choice of doctor? I want to read what you've been reading. Surely you don't expect him to PROVE his baseless claim. Signaturegburnore@databasix dot com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- How you look depends on where you go. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary L. Burnore | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ DataBasix | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ 3 4 1 4 2 ݳ޳ 6 9 0 6 9 ÝÛ³ Black Helicopter Repair Svcs Division | Official Proof of Purchase =========================================================================== Want one? GET one! http://signup.databasix.com =========================================================================== >>>>On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:16:52 -0400, Scott in Florida >>>><MoveOn@outa.here> [quoted text clipped - 86 lines] > > Surely you don't expect him to PROVE his baseless claim. If I actually cared, I'd poke around snopes, which is where the vast majority of the drunk's claims get debunked. They usually include the phrase "various versions of an email have been circulating". >>>>>On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:16:52 -0400, Scott in Florida >>>>><MoveOn@outa.here> [quoted text clipped - 90 lines] >majority of the drunk's claims get debunked. They usually include the phrase >"various versions of an email have been circulating". The problem with their claims, as I mentioned already, is that I'm experiencing this mess firsthand, so i can say without a doubt that they're completely full of sh.t. I really do have the best insurance money can buy and I'm STILL going to be hit with more than 40K in bills. I shouldn't have to pay a penny for medical bills. it should be a perk for living in what they claim is the greatest country in the world. Signaturegburnore@databasix dot com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- How you look depends on where you go. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary L. Burnore | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ DataBasix | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ 3 4 1 4 2 ݳ޳ 6 9 0 6 9 ÝÛ³ Black Helicopter Repair Svcs Division | Official Proof of Purchase =========================================================================== Want one? GET one! http://signup.databasix.com =========================================================================== >>>Maybe you're right. Where did you hear that you won't be able to see your >>>choice of doctor? I want to read what you've been reading. >> >> Surely you don't expect him to PROVE his baseless claim. > > If I actually cared, You never fu@king say *ANYTHING* >> If Bambi care comes in, all care will be thru your friendly government >> bureaucrat. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Maybe you're right. Where did you hear that you won't be able to see your > choice of doctor? I want to read what you've been reading. You never fu@king say *ANYTHING* > It's just not right that a single event can ruin your life. > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Just once I'd like to see everyone step up and admit it's the right thing to > do. It will cost everybody more. Some, maybe like you who doesn't like to pay for health insurance, a little more. For the rest of us who responsibly pay for our health care already, it will cost us a lot MORE. I say BULLSHIT to that!! Signature"I've seen George Foreman shadow boxing and the shadow won." Muhammad Ali >> It's just not right that a single event can ruin your life. >> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > For the rest of us who responsibly pay for our health care already, it > will cost us a lot MORE. I say BULLSHIT to that!! You say BULLSHIT to everything except having your own fresh box of Hostess Twinkies. >> It will cost everybody more. Some, maybe like you who doesn't like to >> pay for health insurance, a little more. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > You say BULLSHIT to everything except having your own fresh box of Hostess > Twinkies. You never fu@king say *ANYTHING* >> It's just not right that a single event can ruin your life. >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >It will cost everybody more. Some, maybe like you who doesn't like to >pay for health insurance, a little more. Who says I don't like to pay for it? Did you read what I wrote above? GOOD COVERAGE isn't cheap but GOOD COVERAGE isn't COMPLETE COVERAGE. What part of that don't you understand? What part of "people covered under insurance still need to file bankruptcy because they can't pay the bills" don't you understand?" >For the rest of us who responsibly pay for our health care already, it >will cost us a lot MORE. I say BULLSHIT to that!! No, for singles making nearly 300K/year it'll cost some more. I'm sure the story above didn't make it quite clear, but I'm living that story right now. Were I a little less well off, I'd be f.cked. As it is now, I can see where someone making less than 100K/year ANYTHING less than 100K/year would be ruined by what I'm going through. People with NO insurance are what's costing you and me money. Signaturegburnore@databasix dot com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- How you look depends on where you go. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary L. Burnore | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ DataBasix | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ 3 4 1 4 2 ݳ޳ 6 9 0 6 9 ÝÛ³ Black Helicopter Repair Svcs Division | Official Proof of Purchase =========================================================================== Want one? GET one! http://signup.databasix.com =========================================================================== Hi, As a UK resident with a certainly not perfect but pretty damn good for most folks most of the time National Health Service I would say this to you. You people live in a society that generally speaking considers it's self to be one of the best and most advanced in the world. The medical reality of your country in terms of healthcare for those without lots of Dollars is that they would be better of in some third world countries than they are in the good ol US of A. Perhaps taking the millions of Dollars you give to Israel each year and spending it on available & affordable health care for your own people instead would be money well redirected. If you want to see some hard factd look at World Health Organisation Data at http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthy_life_table2.html http://www.photius.com/rankings/total_health_expenditure_as_pecent_of_gdp_2000_t o_2005.html This data shows you that a lot of US Dollars are spent on healthcare but that is not reflected in life expectancy or standard of health care. To put it blunty when it comes to healthcare the average US citizens is being F....kd over well and truly. For example you guys spend nearly double the GDP % compared to the UK but your life expectancy in us ranked 24 versus 14 for UK. Overall health care ranking for UK is 24, USA is 72 (with Iraq at 75 and Nicaragua at 73, nuff said I guess). Share and enjoy the data, Obama often talks a lot of B.S. in my view, but he is totally spot on on this particular issue. Regards > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Regards The scholars in this newsgroup don't believe rankings for a long list of stupid reasons. Most of the scholars here can't even read. >> Overall health care ranking for UK is 24, USA is 72 (with Iraq at 75 and >> Nicaragua at 73, nuff said I guess). [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > The scholars in this newsgroup don't believe rankings for a long list of > stupid reasons. Most of the scholars here can't even read. You never fu@king say *ANYTHING* >>> Overall health care ranking for UK is 24, USA is 72 (with Iraq at 75 and >>> Nicaragua at 73, nuff said I guess). [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >You never fu@king say *ANYTHING* Congrats. BI>20 = cancelable as spam. Dumbass. Signaturegburnore@databasix dot com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- How you look depends on where you go. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary L. Burnore | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ DataBasix | ÝÛ³ºÝ³Þ³ºÝ³³Ýۺݳ޳ºÝ³Ý³Þ³ºÝ³ÝÝÛ³ | ÝÛ³ 3 4 1 4 2 ݳ޳ 6 9 0 6 9 ÝÛ³ Black Helicopter Repair Svcs Division | Official Proof of Purchase =========================================================================== Want one? GET one! http://signup.databasix.com =========================================================================== >>> The scholars in this newsgroup don't believe rankings for a long list of >>> stupid reasons. Most of the scholars here can't even read. >> >>You never fu@king say *ANYTHING* >> > Congrats. BI>20 = cancelable as spam. Dumbass. You're ripe tonight. Take a bath... >Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >Share and enjoy the data, Obama often talks a lot of B.S. in my view, but he >is totally spot on on this particular issue. The repulsivecans will ignore the true data in favor of their spin. They still can't explain how they find it acceptable that middle class families are going bankrupt to pay medical bills __IF__ they live. The very rich can afford cancer treatments to live. The middle class get to die. As you said 75 vs 24. I'll take 24 anytime. >Regards And to you too. Signaturegburnore@databasix dot com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- How you look depends on where you go. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary L. 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