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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / July 2009{OT:} Has anyone seen McCain's or Dubya's birth certificate???
Has anyone seen McCain's or Dubya's hospital "long form" birth certificate? Was McCain's mother given one of these birth certificates in Panama? Did George or his father have to produce their hospital "long form" birth certificate? Has any member of the Senate or House produced their hospital "long form" birth certificate? Let's get every single elected official to produce their hospital "long form" birth certificates. McCain was born of American Citizens on an American military installation. His citizenship is without question. I'm not certain of the circumstances surrounding W's birth, but both of his parents are American citizens and if he was born outside of the USA, he still gets his birth right. Obama is born of a man that is not an American citizen, never was and never will be. His mother is a citizen, but America does not seem to recognize birth right of the mother, and instead seems to honor the birth right of the father. That is the problem that Barack Obama has. Frankly, I think the "problem' is bogus. I hate to think that our system of electing leaders could allow an unqualified man or woman to get as far as he has gotten without somebody saying, "wait a f---ing mi8nute, this person can't run for President." To get 6+ months past the inauguration and still be talking about the qualifications is absurd. It's too bad we can't trust the media to research this sort of thing BEFORE the election. Wait, the media loves Obama and they would never compromise their journalistic integrity by looking into the credentials of the man that would become President. Silly me ... > Has anyone seen McCain's or Dubya's hospital "long form" birth > certificate? Was McCain's mother given one of these birth [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Let's get every single elected official to produce their hospital > "long form" birth certificates. > McCain was born of American Citizens on an American military installation. > His citizenship is without question. I'm not certain of the circumstances [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > looking into the credentials of the man that would become President. Silly > me ... ###If the the RNC, The McCain Campain, and Karl Rove couldn't do anything with the issue, the Birthers aren't going anywhere with it either. >> Has anyone seen McCain's or Dubya's hospital "long form" birth >> certificate? Was McCain's mother given one of these birth [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> Let's get every single elected official to produce their hospital >> "long form" birth certificates. > Frankly, I think the "problem' is bogus. I hate to think that our system > of electing leaders could allow an unqualified man or woman to get as > far as he has gotten without somebody saying, "wait a f---ing mi8nute, > this person can't run for President." you'd think. But the Democrats were so adamant about getting a hot, electable candidate that it wouldn't surprise me if they overlooked that minor detail. And judging from the Speaker of the House and the Senate Majority leader, they are certainly stupid enough to try to get away with it... > > Frankly, I think the "problem' is bogus. I hate to think that our system > > of electing leaders could allow an unqualified man or woman to get as [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > And judging from the Speaker of the House and the Senate Majority leader, > they are certainly stupid enough to try to get away with it... After a 2 year Democratic party primary season with primary elections... >> > Frankly, I think the "problem' is bogus. I hate to think that our system >> > of electing leaders could allow an unqualified man or woman to get as [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > After a 2 year Democratic party primary season with primary > elections... Yup. I wouldn't put a thing past them. Hey, you never really answered a question I posed to you at least 4 times now: Why have they spent so much time, effort and money to seal all of Obama's records? > >> > Frankly, I think the "problem' is bogus. I hate to think that our system > >> > of electing leaders could allow an unqualified man or woman to get as [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Because the question is bogus. There is no answer. Hawaii elected officials all stand by the birth certificate. The state-supplied short form birth certificate is now the primary form of ID for things like Passports, etc. If the hospital, long form birth certificate is the standard, why is it not the standard for everyone? Everyone has a state short form birth certificate but many people do not have the hospital long form cert. So what shall we do? Say anyone who does not have the hospital birth certificate is not a citizen? >> >> > Frankly, I think the "problem' is bogus. I hate to think that our system >> >> > of electing leaders could allow an unqualified man or woman to get as [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > So what shall we do? Say anyone who does not have the hospital birth > certificate is not a citizen? They haven't produced anything. Nothing. Period. There is a question about the President of the United States' place of birth. It should be answered more than just, "I saw it." And, why have Obama and others put so much effort into sealing records? I never really like Bush, but he didn't go to the lengths Obama has to seal his military record. Something smells rotten. Remove the blinders from your eyes and the clothespin from your nose... > >> >> > Frankly, I think the "problem' is bogus. I hate to think that our system > >> >> > of electing leaders could allow an unqualified man or woman to get as [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I think you are crazy. Pictures of his birth certificate are on the web. Hawaiian elected officials have certified serveral times that the birth certificate is valid. You guys can rant and rave 24 x 7 and nothing is going to change, other than our opinion of all birthers. >> > So what shall we do? Say anyone who does not have the hospital birth >> > certificate is not a citizen? [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > the birth certificate is valid. You guys can rant and rave 24 x 7 > and nothing is going to change, other than our opinion of all birthers. They haven't produced a thing. Period. They have SAID there's a BC. WHY are his records SEALED?!?! WTF is wrong with you people? Are you in a trance? Are they drugging the water where you are? Remember the furvor over GWB's military record? VOILA! Here's ALL his military records. Yet, the POTUS is in question of his birth, and all people can say is, well, someone's seen it? Once more: if a citizen wants to verify the birthright of the POTUS, he has that right. So, one more time: WHY have the records been SEALED?!?!? >>> > So what shall we do? Say anyone who does not have the hospital birth >>> > certificate is not a citizen? [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > Once more: if a citizen wants to verify the birthright of the POTUS, he > has that right. So, one more time: WHY have the records been SEALED?!?!? Because the State of Hawaii does not give one out unless the request maker has a tangible reason for the document, their def. of tangible. IMHO, it is beginning to sound like the birthers' problem is more pigmentation than documentation. Even the House of Representatives has voted w/o a nay that the 44th POTUS, Barak Obama, is an American citizen, born in the 50th state. Even Rep. Michelle Bachman voted yes to this! Maybe time for you to return to the Kennedy Conspiracies. >> WTF is wrong with you people? Are you in a trance? Are they drugging >> the water where you are? Remember the furvor over GWB's military [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > citizen, born in the 50th state. Even Rep. Michelle Bachman voted yes to > this! Maybe time for you to return to the Kennedy Conspiracies. Well, tak, if *THIS* House of Reps voted on it, it *MUST* be true! They are certainly the best Congress we've had, *EVER* ! And as I told Ed, as a US citizen, anyone questioning the legality of the 44th POTUS has a 'tangible right' to know there is such a document. Still doesn't answer why all his records have been sealed... >>> WTF is wrong with you people? Are you in a trance? Are they drugging >>> the water where you are? Remember the furvor over GWB's military [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Still doesn't answer why all his records have been sealed... I keep explaining this and you don't get it. The records are sealed in order to keep guys like you bouncing off the walls with frustration. It's intentional. It's for entertainment purposes. >> Well, tak, if *THIS* House of Reps voted on it, it *MUST* be true! >> They are certainly the best Congress we've had, *EVER* ! [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > to keep guys like you bouncing off the walls with frustration. It's > intentional. It's for entertainment purposes. I don't really care, to be honest with you. I've been debating for the sake of debating since this thread started. Show me where *I* questioned the legality of the Presidency. I merely said the whole thing could be resolved with a BC, and am questioning why all Obama's records have been sealed. >>> WTF is wrong with you people? Are you in a trance? Are they drugging >>> the water where you are? Remember the furvor over GWB's military [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Still doesn't answer why all his records have been sealed... Hawaii regs. Goodbye >>>> WTF is wrong with you people? Are you in a trance? Are they drugging >>>> the water where you are? Remember the furvor over GWB's military [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Goodbye Hello... The records were sealed at Obama's request. Did you miss that a long time ago? >>>>> WTF is wrong with you people? Are you in a trance? Are they drugging >>>>> the water where you are? Remember the furvor over GWB's military [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > The records were sealed at Obama's request. Did you miss that a long time > ago? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_birth_certificate;_ylt=AgudjWm4J339vmBbf3Hi9 HbmWMcF Game, set, and match >>>>>> WTF is wrong with you people? Are you in a trance? Are they drugging >>>>>> the water where you are? Remember the furvor over GWB's military [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_birth_certificate;_ylt=AgudjWm4J339vmBbf3Hi9 HbmWMcF > Game, set, and match Nope. Still doesn't answer the question. It says Congrees has voted on Obama's citizenship, and that someone in Hawaii has 'seen' the BC. Still doesn't answer why Barack had all his records sealed. >>>>>>> WTF is wrong with you people? Are you in a trance? Are they drugging >>>>>>> the water where you are? Remember the furvor over GWB's military [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > Still doesn't answer why Barack had all his records sealed. Get your eyes checked. http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/President-Barack-Obama/photo//090728/ids_photos_ts /r1164127464.jpg//s:/ap/us_obama_birth_certificate >>>>>>>> WTF is wrong with you people? Are you in a trance? Are they drugging >>>>>>>> the water where you are? Remember the furvor over GWB's military [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/President-Barack-Obama/photo//090728/ids_photos_ts /r1164127464.jpg//s:/ap/us_obama_birth_certificate Let's see how long it stays there... > >> WTF is wrong with you people? Are you in a trance? Are they drugging > >> the water where you are? Remember the furvor over GWB's military [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > And as I told Ed, as a US citizen, anyone questioning the legality of the > 44th POTUS has a 'tangible right' to know there is such a document. Right, let's let all the mental patients living on the streets demand anything from any elected official. You need to get some bi-polar medication. >> >> WTF is wrong with you people? Are you in a trance? Are they drugging >> >> the water where you are? Remember the furvor over GWB's military [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > anything from any elected official. You need to get some bi-polar > medication. The best you can come up with? I offer a remedy to the situation, and pose a question, and I'm a raving maniac? You're leaving your tin-foil hats lying around again. Get a grip: where have *I* ever said *I* questioned the legality of the Presidency? >>> WTF is wrong with you people? Are you in a trance? Are they drugging >>> the water where you are? Remember the furvor over GWB's military [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Still doesn't answer why all his records have been sealed... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_birth_certificate;_ylt=AgudjWm4J339vmBbf3Hi9 HbmWMcF >>>> WTF is wrong with you people? Are you in a trance? Are they drugging >>>> the water where you are? Remember the furvor over GWB's military [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_birth_certificate;_ylt=AgudjWm4J339vmBbf3Hi9 HbmWMcF However, it appears Congress has moved on and has accepted Obama's island birthplace. The U.S. House on Monday unanimously approved a resolution recognizing and celebrating the 50th anniversary of Hawaii becoming the 50th state. Well, THAT will certainly quell a lot of interest! But, it still doesn't answer why Barack had his records sealed. > >> > So what shall we do? Say anyone who does not have the hospital birth > >> > certificate is not a citizen? [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > Once more: if a citizen wants to verify the birthright of the POTUS, he > has that right. So, one more time: WHY have the records been SEALED?!?!?- Hide quoted text - Listen lunatic, this is a Republic, not a direct Democracy. Obama complied with the requirements of the POTUS office. Nobody asked to see Dubya's birth certificate. The more you go on about this the more ridiculous you look and sound. What you have not realized about yourself is you are looking for any technicality to overturn the election. How utterly anti-democratic. >> Once more: if a citizen wants to verify the birthright of the POTUS, he >> has that right. So, one more time: WHY have the records been [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > What you have not realized about yourself is you are looking for any > technicality to overturn the election. How utterly anti-democratic. Un-democratic? Are you serious? There is a question about the legality of the current POTUS, and questions are being raised about that legality, and all it takes is one document, and *I'M* being un-democratic? All someone has to do is produce a BC. I have 2 copies, one in my safe and one in my wallet. Have done this since I was 18. My records are wide open. I have no reason to seal them. Think about what you're saying, please. There is a question about the President's birth. One document would clear it all. Rather than produce the document, the POTUS has *ALL* his records sealed. > >> Once more: if a citizen wants to verify the birthright of the POTUS, he > >> has that right. So, one more time: WHY have the records been [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > President's birth. One document would clear it all. Rather than produce > the document, the POTUS has *ALL* his records sealed. You are a lunatic. You type this stuff from the mental asylum library. >> >> Once more: if a citizen wants to verify the birthright of the POTUS, he >> >> has that right. So, one more time: WHY have the records been [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > You are a lunatic. You type this stuff from the mental asylum library. Where am I a lunatic, Ed? I didn't raise any questions about Obama's legality, and, if I remember correctly, *YOU* are the one that made the first post. I've just been speculating since. I offer a simple remedy to the situation: produce a real BC. That ends ALL discussion, right? I also asked a valid question: why has Obama sealed all his records? Instead of actually answering the question, you're ranting about what a lunatic I am, and I'm not even the one that questioned anything in the first place! So, once again, Ed. *I* am not questioning the legality of the POTUS, I am merely offering a remedy, and wondering aloud why he sealed all his records. > Un-democratic? Not at all. > Are you serious? There is a question about the legality of the current > POTUS, and questions are being raised about that legality, and all it [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > President's birth. One document would clear it all. Rather than produce > the document, the POTUS has *ALL* his records sealed. It's never going to happen. Validity of the story aside, he'll never be removed as president, and you'll never get the Republicans to have the balls to back any efforts to do so. It's a dead issue as far as any action is concerned. Do I think he's a natural-born citizen? Nope. Does that matter? Nope. Even if it would be definitely proven he isn't native-born, it'd be swept under the carpet. To actually do something about it would incite anarchy in major cities across the land that would make Watts 1965 look like a family picnic. And a relatively brief one at that. So get used to being held hostage by this charade. That's all this four-year period can be labeled. Or he could just allow the release of the long-form certificate. Nah. Speculation - Would the Dims self-destruct any faster under Biden? It's hard to see how that could happen, so the current condition might be preferable anyway. Another 4 years of gradual descent with Carter (Biden) would be Oh so hard to take. I think whatever damage potential Bozama has remaining will be largely neutralized at the next election if we can manage to keep things from slipping too far down the slippery slope (and off the cliff). > So get used to being held hostage by this charade. That's all this > four-year period can be labeled. > > Or he could just allow the release of the long-form certificate. > > Nah. > Speculation - > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > neutralized at the next election if we can manage to keep things from > slipping too far down the slippery slope (and off the cliff). Too late. I don't know how old you are, but I doubt I'll live long enough to see this trainwreck put back on track. If I live to a 105, maybe. > Speculation - > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> >> Nah. Mark ,think: Mid-terms... >> Un-democratic? > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > any action is concerned. Do I think he's a natural-born citizen? > Nope. Does that matter? Nope. There is one thing that can be done by people bothered by this: vote straight Republican in the mid-term election. Get the bobble-headed morons out, and get back a Conservative majority. I think then there might be enough of a quorum to bring everything to light, and to stop the runaway train the Democrats are driving that's shoving everything down our throats with no chance for review. > Even if it would be definitely proven he isn't native-born, it'd be > swept under the carpet. To actually do something about it would incite > anarchy in major cities across the land that would make Watts 1965 look > like a family picnic. And a relatively brief one at that. Yeah, there are a lot of people still in "The Trance". Did you see Merideth Viera going after Glenn Beck this morning for questioning Obama? Of course, that was after she all but sucked him off on national TV the other day. Hard hitting journalism? HAH!!!!!!!! > So get used to being held hostage by this charade. That's all this > four-year period can be labeled. > > Or he could just allow the release of the long-form certificate. > > Nah. >>>>> Frankly, I think the "problem' is bogus. I hate to think that our system >>>>> of electing leaders could allow an unqualified man or woman to get as [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > So what shall we do? Say anyone who does not have the hospital birth > certificate is not a citizen? You should move to Kenya and work on your civil rights there! Just FYI. > McCain was born of American Citizens on an American military installation. > His citizenship is without question. I'm not certain of the circumstances [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > birth right of the mother, and instead seems to honor the birth right of the > father. That is the problem that Barack Obama has. What a loser you are. Obama was born in Hawaii you dumb f.ck. That makes him an American citizen. You are STUPID. > Frankly, I think the "problem' is bogus. I hate to think that our system of > electing leaders could allow an unqualified man or woman to get as far as he > has gotten without somebody saying, "wait a f---ing mi8nute, this person > can't run for President." The problem is that you have no brain. In article <8767c265-fcbf-4707-a2cb-9b591166151a@y19g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>, > Has anyone seen McCain's or Dubya's hospital "long form" birth > certificate? Was McCain's mother given one of these birth [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Let's get every single elected official to produce their hospital > "long form" birth certificates. Yes, I've seen ALL of them EXCEPT for obama's. -- > In article > <8767c265-fcbf-4707-a2cb-9b5911661...@y19g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Yes, I've seen ALL of them EXCEPT for obama's. > -- Yeah, right. Now we can add "delusional" to your diagnosis. I can guarantee at least half of congress doesn't have their hospital long form birth certificate. I asked you to post a copy of you hospital birth certificate but you haven't. From that I can infer you don't have one. In article <859c814d-b709-4991-8fda-03cf39649346@r2g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, > > In article > > <8767c265-fcbf-4707-a2cb-9b5911661...@y19g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > birth certificate but you haven't. From that I can infer you don't > have one. You believe THEM why would you not believe ME? -- > In article > <859c814d-b709-4991-8fda-03cf39649346@r2g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > You believe THEM why would you not believe ME? Why didn't the Republican party instruct McCain and Palin to use the birth certificate issue as a weapon during the presidential campaign? > In article > <8767c265-fcbf-4707-a2cb-9b591166151a@y19g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Yes, I've seen ALL of them EXCEPT for obama's. Why didn't the Republican party instruct McCain and Palin to use the birth certificate issue as a weapon during the presidential campaign? > > In article > > <8767c265-fcbf-4707-a2cb-9b591166151a@y19g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Why didn't the Republican party instruct McCain and Palin to use the birth > certificate issue as a weapon during the presidential campaign? Because they're nice people and unlike the dnc, don't pull dirty little tricks like that on their opponents. -- >> > In article >> > <8767c265-fcbf-4707-a2cb-9b591166151a@y19g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Because they're nice people and unlike the dnc, don't pull dirty little > tricks like that on their opponents. hahahahaha. Funny. On Jul 28, 9:11 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net> wrote: > > In article <jjCbm.45717$O23.10...@newsfe11.iad>, > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Yeah, deebs is blindly partisan and really believes McCain and carabou Barby are "nice guys". In article <5c5b054d-4ea6-4bfd-9701-60549b54042d@a26g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, > On Jul 28, 9:11 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Yeah, deebs is blindly partisan and really believes McCain and carabou > Barby are "nice guys". Certainly better than your bambino president. -- > In article > <5c5b054d-4ea6-4bfd-9701-60549b54042d@a26g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Certainly better than your bambino president. Palin doesn't matter any more. She quit. Cut & run. The job was too tough for her. Imagine what she'd do if she was president and Iran fired a missile at one of our ships. Cut & run. Quit. > > In article > > <5c5b054d-4ea6-4bfd-9701-60549b54042d@a26g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > for her. Imagine what she'd do if she was president and Iran fired a missile > at one of our ships. Cut & run. Quit. She was hounded out of office because of the liberal ethics law in Alaska which she was forced to defend with her own funds. All but one were tossed out. That one had to do with her kids riding along with her on official business. -- >> > In article >> > <5c5b054d-4ea6-4bfd-9701-60549b54042d@a26g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > were tossed out. That one had to do with her kids riding along with her > on official business. Any president gets more bad press and hounding than any other politician in the country. Imagine what Palin would do. Quit. Cut & run. Poor baby expected her job to be pleasant, like a PTA cookie sale. Cut & run. > >> > In article > >> > <5c5b054d-4ea6-4bfd-9701-60549b54042d@a26g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > > Cut & run. Do presidents have to defend themselves with their own money due to frivolous ethics attacks by partisan wonks? -- >> >> > In article >> >> > <5c5b054d-4ea6-4bfd-9701-60549b54042d@a26g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > Do presidents have to defend themselves with their own money due to > frivolous ethics attacks by partisan wonks? Yes, and you like that idea. Don't ask for proof. It was in every major news source on earth just 9-10 years ago. No exceptions. All major news sources. If you missed it, it's because you were drunk 24x7. > >> >> > In article > >> >> > <5c5b054d-4ea6-4bfd-9701-60549b54042d@a26g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] > source on earth just 9-10 years ago. No exceptions. All major news sources. > If you missed it, it's because you were drunk 24x7. Did bubba have to pay for his own defense while in office, note....I said WHILE IN OFFICE? Shame. I thought that's what a presidents legal representative is for, which of course is hired and payed for by taxpayers. -- >> >> >> > In article >> >> >> > <5c5b054d-4ea6-4bfd-9701-60549b54042d@a26g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 90 lines] > representative is for, which of course is hired and payed for by > taxpayers. Go back to sleep. It's what you do best. > >> >> >> > In article > >> >> >> > <5c5b054d-4ea6-4bfd-9701-60549b54042d@a26g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> [quoted text clipped - 94 lines] > > Go back to sleep. It's what you do best. Sorry, but you never woke up. -- >>> >> >> > In article >>> >> >> > <5c5b054d-4ea6-4bfd-9701-60549b54042d@a26g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 92 lines] > > Go back to sleep. It's what you do best. If you remember, there was an open 'fund' anyone could donate to. That is, anyone stupid enough to. >>>> >> >> > In article >>>> >> >> > <5c5b054d-4ea6-4bfd-9701-60549b54042d@a26g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 101 lines] > If you remember, there was an open 'fund' anyone could donate to. > That is, anyone stupid enough to. You just proved that what I said was correct. Thank you. >>>>> Yes, and you like that idea. Don't ask for proof. It was in every major >>>>> news [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > You just proved that what I said was correct. Thank you. Huh? What *ARE* you babbling about? >>>>>> Yes, and you like that idea. Don't ask for proof. It was in every >>>>>> major [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Huh? What *ARE* you babbling about? Since people were able to contribute, that means the government did not pay for legal work. This question is now finished, since at the moment, neither you nor I know whether contributions fully covered Clinton's legal costs. >>>>>>> Yes, and you like that idea. Don't ask for proof. It was in every >>>>>>> major [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > for legal work. This question is now finished, since at the moment, neither > you nor I know whether contributions fully covered Clinton's legal costs. OK. Have you seen any of BO press conferences, "Joe$#itFor Brains?? Does the White House press corps EVER get to ask a meaningful follow up question? The closest I've ever seen was when Helen Thomas and a guy from Fox took him to task, for not speaking what they thought was the truth. >>> > In article >>> > <5c5b054d-4ea6-4bfd-9701-60549b54042d@a26g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > > Cut & run. > Have you seen any of BO press conferences, "Joe$#itFor Brains?? Does the > White House press corps EVER get to ask a meaningful follow up question? I don't think they ever bother to. The whole press is sucking Obama's dick, no matter what he does, because he's not a Republican. That's a damn shame... > The closest I've ever seen was when Helen Thomas and a guy from Fox took him > to task, for not speaking what they thought was the truth. [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] >> >> Cut & run. >> In article >> <5c5b054d-4ea6-4bfd-9701-60549b54042d@a26g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > for her. Imagine what she'd do if she was president and Iran fired a missile > at one of our ships. Cut & run. Quit. Still don't get it, do you? See, unlike people like Kerry and Obama and Dukakis, she gave up her position before seeking another one. I think all politicians should do that. Senator from Illinios? Want to run for President? (Interesting...Freudian slip? I originally typed "...FROM President...") Good! Have at! But resign your position when you announce your candidacy. Then, we'd be rid of Kerry. > >> In article > >> <5c5b054d-4ea6-4bfd-9701-60549b540...@a26g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I think you dream of being suckled by Palin, but as a helpless child. >> See, unlike people like Kerry and Obama and Dukakis, she gave up her >> position before seeking another one. I think all politicians should do [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I think you dream of being suckled by Palin, but as a helpless child. Who cares? See the rack on her? > On Jul 28, 9:11 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Yeah, deebs is blindly partisan and really believes McCain and carabou > Barby are "nice guys". I'd take either one of them over the idiots the Dems have presented in the last 4 elections. On Jul 28, 9:11 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net> wrote: > > In article <jjCbm.45717$O23.10...@newsfe11.iad>, > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > - Show quoted text - If I saw dbu's comment in isolation, I'd assume it was a joke. But knowing a bit about him, I read that and I honestly do not know if he's joking. >>> > In article >>> > <8767c265-fcbf-4707-a2cb-9b591166151a@y19g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > hahahahaha. Funny. Why? Look at the Dems in this group. Esp you. You're the first one to go into a snarling meltdown and accuse people of things. Same goes for the rest of the L00NY LeFT. >>>> > In article >>>> > <8767c265-fcbf-4707-a2cb-9b591166151a@y19g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Same goes for the rest of the L00NY LeFT. ?Let he who is free of sin cast the first stone"?? >>>>> > In article >>>>> > <8767c265-fcbf-4707-a2cb-9b591166151a@y19g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >> > ?Let he who is free of sin cast the first stone"?? Why? Are you a loon? I always figured you're one of the sane(r) ones. Don't go gettin' all tin-foil on me now, tak! > In article > <8767c265-fcbf-4707-a2cb-9b591166151a@y19g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Yes, I've seen ALL of them EXCEPT for obama's. Why didn't the Republican party instruct McCain and Palin to use the birth certificate issue as a weapon during the presidential campaign? No, but I bet someone had to certify that they saw these forms when George W. and John M. joined the military. Bozama doesn't even know how to throw a baseball... that's all the proof I need. > Has anyone seen McCain's or Dubya's hospital "long form" birth > certificate? Was McCain's mother given one of these birth [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Let's get every single elected official to produce their hospital > "long form" birth certificates. > No, but I bet someone had to certify that they saw these forms when > George W. and John M. joined the military. > > Bozama doesn't even know how to throw a baseball... that's all the > proof I need. We've now had two ostensible presidents with no military experience. Clinton and Der Bama. One can easily see patterns and similarities. > > No, but I bet someone had to certify that they saw these forms when > > George W. and John M. joined the military. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > One can easily see patterns and similarities. And Dubya had no military experience. That was not military service by any stretch of the imagination. >>> No, but I bet someone had to certify that they saw these forms when >>> George W. and John M. joined the military. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > And Dubya had no military experience. That was not military service > by any stretch of the imagination. Wrong. His name isn't on the "no experience" list. However, Ed certainly qualifies for the "no brains" list. > Wrong. His name isn't on the "no experience" list. > >>> No, but I bet someone had to certify that they saw these forms when > >>> George W. and John M. joined the military. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > - Show quoted text - He still can't fly. In article <8c3a1e71-b407-452b-9758-1b643d9b9c2b@i6g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, > > > No, but I bet someone had to certify that they saw these forms when > > > George W. and John M. joined the military. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > And Dubya had no military experience. That was not military service > by any stretch of the imagination. Did you have USAF flight training? Pass that and go on to high performance jet training and pass that and go on to become a aircraft pilot in command? Well, did you? -- > In article > <8c3a1e71-b407-452b-9758-1b643d9b9...@i6g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Neither did dubya. All his records are forged by him or father. >> In article >> <8c3a1e71-b407-452b-9758-1b643d9b9...@i6g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Neither did dubya. All his records are forged by him or father. Is that tin-foil I see peeking out from under your wig? > >> In article > >> <8c3a1e71-b407-452b-9758-1b643d9b9...@i6g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > - Show quoted text - you keep stealing my tin-foil hats and I'm getting sick of it. Learn to make your own. >> >> In article >> >> <8c3a1e71-b407-452b-9758-1b643d9b9...@i6g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > you keep stealing my tin-foil hats and I'm getting sick of it. Learn to > make your own. I can't fold tin-foil for sh.t. Stop leaving them lying around all over the place! nobama could stop all this sh.t by simply publishing the full-long form birth certificate. where is his transparency in government? There have been a lot of people (it should only take ONE) that have questions about his birth. I've always felt that if you got something to hide, then you obfuscate. What is possibly on a birth certificate that can't be made public (except maybe the SS nr if its on there)? Ron > nobama could stop all this sh.t by simply publishing the full-long form > birth certificate. That is correct. But, according to various news sources, he has requested the state of Hawaii seal these records. He has also asked for or paid to have other records sealed, including school records and other records that should be available by FOI inquiry. I am actually NOT questioning his birth, like people seem to think. I *AM* questioning why he and others saw fit to seal his records. All I ever said was, he can end all this by producing his BC. He had it sealed, instead. I wonder why? > where is his transparency in government? There have been a lot of people > (it should only take ONE) that have questions about his birth. That is also right, and as I mentioned before, the state said only people with a tangible interest can ask to see his BC. I feel as a citizen of the US, I probably have a 'tangible interest' to make sure any questions about my President's place of birth and in accordance with law is fairly 'tangible'. > I've always felt that if you got something to hide, then you obfuscate. > What is possibly on a birth certificate that can't be made public (except > maybe the SS nr if its on there)? > > Ron They didn't do that until the 80's > nobama could stop all this sh.t by simply publishing the full-long form > birth certificate. He won't because none of the prior presidents have either. > where is his transparency in government? There have been a lot of people > (it should only take ONE) that have questions about his birth. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Ron -- >> nobama could stop all this sh.t by simply publishing the full-long form >> birth certificate. > > He won't because none of the prior presidents have either. Who else was questioned? >> where is his transparency in government? There have been a lot of people >> (it should only take ONE) that have questions about his birth. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >> Ron > >> nobama could stop all this sh.t by simply publishing the full-long form > >> birth certificate. > > > > He won't because none of the prior presidents have either. > > Who else was questioned? I don't believe any others were questioned. This subject or issue has never came up in the past that I recall, at least in my lifetime. Then again I can't remember any president (in my lifetime) that has had such a worldly upbringing as obama has. > >> where is his transparency in government? There have been a lot of people > >> (it should only take ONE) that have questions about his birth. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >> > >> Ron -- >> >> nobama could stop all this sh.t by simply publishing the full-long form >> >> birth certificate. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > again I can't remember any president (in my lifetime) that has had such > a worldly upbringing as obama has. If McCain had been elected, the 'sides' would be on the other side, you realize... >> >> where is his transparency in government? There have been a lot of people >> >> (it should only take ONE) that have questions about his birth. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >> >> >> Ron > Bozama doesn't even know how to throw a baseball... that's all the > proof I need. Oh oh, you sound like someone with masculinity issues who uses sports as a gauge of masculinity. Can YOU take a hit to the ribs while in the air to catch and hold onto a touchdown pass? Since the fact that our "athletic" "native born" president throws a baseball like a sissy at the relatively young age of 47 obviously left no impression on you, IMHO it would seem that YOU are the one with the masculinity issues. Betcha he throws a football (an oblate spheroid, not a soccer ball) like a wounded duck too... if he even knows how to hold it. I would love to see that. > Oh oh, you sound like someone with masculinity issues who uses sports > as a gauge of masculinity. Can YOU take a hit to the ribs while in > the air to catch and hold onto a touchdown pass? He'd burn your sorry a.s in a game of roundball. But you probably don't like that game because only "those kinds of people" play it. Since the fact that our "athletic" "native born" president throws a baseball like a sissy at the relatively young age of 47 obviously left no impression on you, IMHO it would seem that YOU are the one with the masculinity issues. Betcha he throws a football (an oblate spheroid, not a soccer ball) like a wounded duck too... if he even knows how to hold it. I would love to see that. On Jul 28, 11:08 am, edspyhill01 <edspyhil...@gmail.com> wrote: > Oh oh, you sound like someone with masculinity issues who uses sports > as a gauge of masculinity. Can YOU take a hit to the ribs while in > the air to catch and hold onto a touchdown pass? > He'd burn your sorry a.s in a game of roundball. But you probably don't like > that game because only "those kinds of people" play it. So why did he look like such a wimp tossing a baseball? > Since the fact that our "athletic" "native born" president throws a > baseball like a sissy at the relatively young age of 47 obviously left [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > as a gauge of masculinity. Can YOU take a hit to the ribs while in > > the air to catch and hold onto a touchdown pass? -- >> He'd burn your sorry a.s in a game of roundball. But you probably don't >> like >> that game because only "those kinds of people" play it. > > So why did he look like such a wimp tossing a baseball? Same reason Lew Alcindor looked pathetic when he played a benefit baseball game many years ago along with other sports stars from basketball, hockey & football. Do you have anything interesting to say about Lew Alcindor, or are you done looking stupid for today? > >> He'd burn your sorry a.s in a game of roundball. But you probably don't > >> like [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Do you have anything interesting to say about Lew Alcindor, or are you done > looking stupid for today? I only have one thing to say before I go on my 50 mile bike ride. Get a woman. -- >> >> He'd burn your sorry a.s in a game of roundball. But you probably >> >> don't [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Get a woman. I presented you with facts. What's that got to do with women? And you are NOT going on a 50 mile bike ride. > In article <q%Fbm.45756$O23.6...@newsfe11.iad>, > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > - Show quoted text - 50 mile bike ride - on Wii. >>> He'd burn your sorry a.s in a game of roundball. But you probably don't >>> like [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Do you have anything interesting to say about Lew Alcindor, or are you done > looking stupid for today? Um, you mean Kareem? >>>> He'd burn your sorry a.s in a game of roundball. But you probably don't >>>> like [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Um, you mean Kareem? I wanted to see if the moron dbu could make the connection. He couldn't. He fell asleep with the bottle tipped over on his pillow. >> He'd burn your sorry a.s in a game of roundball. But you probably don't like >> that game because only "those kinds of people" play it. > > So why did he look like such a wimp tossing a baseball? You've got to love the not-so-subtle racism in that "White Men Can't Jump" claim. And I don't mean against whites. Next stop, Joe will claim Der Bama can spit watermelon seeds even farther than you. >>> He'd burn your sorry a.s in a game of roundball. But you probably don't >>> like [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > And I don't mean against whites. Next stop, Joe will claim Der Bama can > spit watermelon seeds even farther than you. No, you idiot. The same muscle memory which makes sports stars so good can also prevent them from doing well in sports for which they've never trained. Same reason a classically trained double bassist will often be a total klutz with an electric bass. But you'll twist this into whatever it takes to feel like you won something today because you're life is so empty. Carry on, soy boy. On Jul 28, 1:40 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net> wrote: > >> In article <%LFbm.45755$O23.29...@newsfe11.iad>, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Same reason a classically trained double bassist will often be a total klutz > with an electric bass. No use using the double bass example on these cretins. These guys beat up musicians and artists in high school, maybe even now, but only if they can find some little asian girl and they outnumber her. >> No, you idiot. The same muscle memory which makes sports stars so good can >> also prevent them from doing well in sports for which they've never trained. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > beat up musicians and artists in high school, maybe even now, but only > if they can find some little asian girl and they outnumber her. I was married to a 'little' Asian girl. > >> He'd burn your sorry a.s in a game of roundball. But you probably don't > >> like [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > And I don't mean against whites. Next stop, Joe will claim Der Bama > can spit watermelon seeds even farther than you. Why shucks, I can spit ferder dan dat bambino president can. What a wimp. -- > In article <h4ncu3$9e...@news.albasani.net>, > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > - Show quoted text - When you "talk" like that I hear "Dueling Banjos". >> In article <h4ncu3$9e...@news.albasani.net>, >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > When you "talk" like that I hear "Dueling Banjos". All the way back to your crib days. Ya also gotta love Joe's feeble attempt at "street" lingo, LOL > You've got to love the not-so-subtle racism in that "White Men Can't > Jump" claim. > > And I don't mean against whites. Next stop, Joe will claim Der Bama > can spit watermelon seeds even farther than you. That's what we called it where I grew up. Did you grow up in Mayberry? Ya also gotta love Joe's feeble attempt at "street" lingo, LOL On Jul 28, 1:36 pm, Conscience <nobama@göv.com> wrote: > You've got to love the not-so-subtle racism in that "White Men Can't > Jump" claim. > > And I don't mean against whites. Next stop, Joe will claim Der Bama > can spit watermelon seeds even farther than you. > Since the fact that our "athletic" "native born" president throws a > baseball like a sissy at the relatively young age of 47 obviously left [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > - Show quoted text - But, he can wipe the floor with you on the basketball court. Don't be dissin' on my homeys > But, he can wipe the floor with you on the basketball court.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - >> Since the fact that our "athletic" "native born" president throws a >> baseball like a sissy at the relatively young age of 47 obviously left [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > But, he can wipe the floor with you on the basketball court. You going to join Meredith Viera in sucking his dick? > Since the fact that our "athletic" "native born" president throws a > baseball like a sissy at the relatively young age of 47 obviously left [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > like a wounded duck too... if he even knows how to hold it. I would > love to see that. Hey, he went to Harvard: The mascot doesn't bark, he goes, "Bow-WOW" The players don't yell, "I'm open!", they say, "Oh, Biff, do throw the ball..." >> Oh oh, you sound like someone with masculinity issues who uses sports >> as a gauge of masculinity. Can YOU take a hit to the ribs while in >> the air to catch and hold onto a touchdown pass? > Has anyone seen McCain's or Dubya's hospital "long form" birth > certificate? Was McCain's mother given one of these birth [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Let's get every single elected official to produce their hospital > "long form" birth certificates. Who gives a RATS a.s? I guess you have nothing better to do. How about getting a f.cking JOB? That way you will not have to shove your nose in everyone's business. |
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