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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / July 2009{BS} Other party Senator accuses administration of pushing legislation through
before anyone has a chance to read the bills. A Junior Senator has accused the administration of pushing bills through Congress so fast no one could possibly have a chance to read them. That was Senator Barack H. Obama in 2004, complaining the Bush administration was doing just what he's doing. Only then, it was concerning the events of 9/11, not an effort to Socialize the country. > before anyone has a chance to read the bills. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Only then, it was concerning the events of 9/11, not an effort to > Socialize the country. Gee, with something like 20,000,000 people without insurance, capitalism is doing a great job of generating profits for insurance companies. Jeff >> before anyone has a chance to read the bills. >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Jeff What does that have to do with it? Congress is actually taking thier time on this. Wonder how many Democrats are on the dole from health care companies? Hey, if *I* could bill 5 times for the same service, I'd pay someone off, too. Did I ever say I was a fan of the insurance companies? Check my related posts for the past 6 years. I wouldn't mind some regulation, but I do *NOT* want the government running the show... >>> before anyone has a chance to read the bills. >>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > I wouldn't mind some regulation, but I do *NOT* want the government > running the show... According to a radio show host (Lars Larson) on page 16 of the bill states that it is illegal to write new private health care policy. Thus killing all private insurance company's. It also will not pay for certain health care for the elderly. Like hip or knee replacement. Let them limp in pain to the bathroom or dinner table, instead of going fishing, on vacations or playing with the grand kids. How does this help the economy again? It also includes people who are not citizens of the United States. This along will double the illegal immigrants to this country. Lets see we have about 15 million illegal to do 150,000 farm jobs. Yeah we need more of them to give food stamps and subsidized housing. So they can call us a racist because we don't speak Spanish. >>>> before anyone has a chance to read the bills. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > to give food stamps and subsidized housing. So they can call us a racist > because we don't speak Spanish. Oh, shoot! You let the cat out of the bag!!!! >>>>> before anyone has a chance to read the bills. >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > Oh, shoot! You let the cat out of the bag!!!! I forgot to mention it includes paying for abortion. That's a big deal breaker by it's self. >> Oh, shoot! You let the cat out of the bag!!!! > > I forgot to mention it includes paying for abortion. That's a big deal > breaker by it's self. You'd expect Obama and the rest of the Nimrods pushing this sh.t through NOT to fund abortions? As a very Conservative friend of mine once said, Why NOT fund abortions? Abortions are only about $3,000. Paying for a little bastard on the Government's dime (welfare) will cost ~$1M to age 18. Better to pay for the abortion... >>> Oh, shoot! You let the cat out of the bag!!!! >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Better to pay for the abortion... Bumper sticker that used to be really popular: Support Abortion: It kills Democrats I'll bet that one had more cars keyed at the hands of the "tolerant". On Jul 28, 8:48 am, Hachiroku <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote: > before anyone has a chance to read the bills. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Only then, it was concerning the events of 9/11, not an effort to > Socialize the country. Gee, with something like 20,000,000 people without insurance, capitalism is doing a great job of generating profits for insurance companies. Jeff This is what they are trying to force on us. I got this from a post on rec.crafts.metalworking. FINALLY someone is reading it!! Peter Fleckstein (aka Fleckman) is reading it and has been posting on Twitter his findings. This is from his postings (Note: All comments are Fleckman's) PG 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Govt will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!! PG 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments and benefits you get PG 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!! PG 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC benefits for you. You have no choice! PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided to ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise PG 58HC Bill - Govt will have real-time access to individuals' finances and a National ID Healthcard will be issued! PG 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access to your banks' accounts for election funds transfer PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in unions & community orgs (ACORN). PG 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating a HC Exchange to bring private HC plans under Govt control. PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Govt mandates ALL benefit pkgs for private HC plans in the Exchange PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs for Benefit Levels for Plans = The Govt will ration your Healthcare! PG 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill - Govt mandates linguistic-appropriate services. Example: Translation for illegal aliens PG 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups (i.e., ACORN & Americorps)to sign up individuals for Govt HC plan PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs of Ben Levels for Plans. #AARP members - your health care will be rationed. PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid-eligible individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No choice. PG 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No "judicial review" against Govt Monopoly. PG 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ #AMA - The Govt will tell YOU what you can make. PG 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST automatically enroll employees into pub opt plan. NO CHOICE PG 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay for health care for part-time employees AND their families. PG 149 Lines 16-24 ANY employer with a payroll of $400k and above who does not provide pub opt. pays 8% tax on all payroll PG 150 Lines 9-13 Businesses with payroll between $251k & 400k who don't provide pub. opt pays 2-6% tax on all payroll PG 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable HC according to Govt will be taxed 2.5% of income PG 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay) PG 195 HC Bill - Officers and employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access to ALL Americans' financial and personal records. PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax" Yes, it says that. PG 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Govt will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected PG 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors will all be paid the same, regardless of what specialty you have. PG 253 Line 10-18 Govt sets value of doctor's time, professional judgment, etc. Literally value of humans. PG 265 Sec 1131 Govt mandates and controls productivity for private HC industries PG 268 Sec 1141 Fed Govt regulates rental and purchase of power driven wheelchairs PG 272 SEC. 1145. Treatment of certain cancer hospitals. Cancer patients: welcome to rationing! PG 280 Sec 1151 The Govt will penalize hospitals for what it deems preventable readmissions. PG 298 Lines 9-11 Doctors who treat a patient during initial admission that results in a readmission will be penalized by the Govt. PG 317 L 13-20 PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt tells doctors what/how much they can own. PG 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is mandating hospitals cannot expand PG 321 2-13 Hospitals have opportunity to apply for exception BUT community input required. Can you say ACORN?!! PG 335 16-25 Pg 336-339 - Govt mandates establishment of outcome-based measures. HC the way they want. Rationing PG 341 Lines 3-9 Govt has authority to disqualify Medicare Adv Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing people into Govt plan PG 354 Sec 1177 - Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of special needs people.! WTF. My sis has down syndrome!! PG 379 Sec 1191 Govt creates more bureaucracy - Telehealth Advisory Committee. Can you say HC by phone? PG 425 Lines 4-12 Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens end of life PG 425 Lines 17-19 Govt will instruct and consult regarding living wills, durable powers of atty. Mandatory! PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Govt provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in death. Excuse me???!?!?!? PG 427 Lines 15-24 Govt mandates program for orders for end of life. The Govt has a say in how your life ends PG 429 Lines 1-9 An "advance care planning consult" will be used frequently as patient's health deteriorates PG 429 Lines 10-12 "Advance care consultation" may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from GOV PG 429 Lines 13-25 - The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order. PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life PG 469 - Community Based Home Medical Services=Non profit orgs. Hello, ACORN Medical Svcs here!!? PG 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. One monthly payment to a community-based org. Like ACORN? PG 489 Sec 1308 The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert Govt into your marriage PG 494-498 Govt will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, rationing those same services |
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