From another group. I was in the Navy when the Seabag was king,
however my ship had bunks. It was still a gigantic pain in the arse.
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How many of you remember the Seabag? I do!THE SEABAG...... .. In
1963 when I joined the Navy everything I owned had to fit in my sea
bag. Remember those nasty rascals? Fullypacked, one of the suckers
weighed more than the poor devil hauling it.The damn things weighed a
ton and some idiot with an off-center sense of humor sewed a carry
handle on it to help you haul it. Hell, you could bolt manhandle on a
Greyhound bus but it wouldn't make the damn thing portable.The Army,
Marines and Air Force got footlockers and we got a big ole' canvas
bag.After you warped your spine jackassing the goofy thing through a
bus or train station, sat on it waiting for connecting transportation
and made folks mad because it was too damn big to fit in any overhead
rack on any bus, train and airplane ever made, the contents looked
like hell. All your gear appeared to have come from bums who slept on
park benches.
Traveling with a sea bag was something left over from the "Yo-ho-ho
and a bottle of rum" sailing ship days. Sailors used to sleep in
hammocks. So you stowed your issue in a big canvas bag and lashed
your hammock to it , hoisted it on your shoulder and in effect moved
your entire home and complete inventory of earthly possessions from
ship to ship. I wouldn't say you traveled light because with one
strap it was a one-shoulder load that could torque your skeletal frame
and bust your ankles. It was like hauling a dead linebacker.
They wasted a lot of time in boot camp telling you how to pack one of
the suckers. There was an officially sanctioned method of
organization that you forgot after ten minutes on the other side of
the gate at Great Lakes or San Diego. You got rid of a lot of issue
gear when you went to the SHIP.. Did you ever know a tin-can sailor
who had a raincoat? A flat hat? One of those nut hugger knit
swimsuits? How bout those roll your own neckerchiefs. .. The ones
the girls in a good Naval tailor shop would cut down and sew into a
'greasy snake' for two bucks?
Within six months, every fleet sailor was down to one set of dress
blues, port and starboard undress blues and whites, a couple of white
hats, boots, shoes, assorted skivvies, a peacoat and three sets of
bleached out dungarees. The rest of your original issue was either in
the pea coat locker, lucky bag or had been reduced to wipe down rags
in the engine room.
Underway ships were not ships that allowed vast accumulation of
private gear. Hobos who lived in discarded refrigerator crates could
amass greater loads of pack rat crap than fleet sailors. The confines
of a canvas back rack, side locker and a couple of bunk bags did not
allow one to live a Donald Trump existence. Space and the going pay
scale combined to make us envy the lifestyle of a mud hut Ethiopian.
We were the global equivalents of nomadic Monguls without ponies to
haul our stuff.
And after the rigid routine of boot camp we learned the skill of
random compressed packing... Known by mother's world-wide as
'cramming'. It is amazing what you can jam into a space no bigger
than a breadbox if you pull a watch cap over a boot and push it in
with your foot. Of course it looks kinda weird when you pull it out
but they never hold fashion shows at sea and wrinkles added character
to a salty appearance. There was a four-hundred mile gap between the
images on recruiting posters and the actual appearance of sailors at
sea. It was not without justifiable reason that we were called the
tin-can Navy.
We operated on the premise that if 'Cleanliness was next to
Godliness', we must be next to the other end of that spectrum... We
looked like our clothing had been pressed with a waffle iron and
packed by a bulldozer.
But what in the hell did they expect from a bunch of jerks that lived
in the crews hole of a 2250 Gearing/Fletcher can. After a while you
got used to it... You got used to everything you owned picking up and
retraining that distinctive aroma... You got used to old ladies on
busses taking a couple of wrinkled nose sniffs of your peacoat then
getting up and finding another seat...
Do they still issue sea bags? Can you still make five bucks sitting
up half the night drawing a ships picture on the side of one of the
damn things with black and white marking pens that drive old
master-at-arms into a 'rig for heart attack' frenzy? Make their faces
red... The veins on their neck bulge out... And yell," What in god's
name is that all over your seabag?"
"Artwork, Chief... It's like the work of Michelangelo. .. My
ship... Great huh?" "Looks like some damn comic book..."
Here was a man with cobras tattooed on his arms... A skull with a
dagger through one eye and a ribbon reading 'DEATH BEFORE SHORE DUTY'
on his shoulder... Crossed anchors with 'Subic Bay 1945' on the other
shoulder...
An eagle on his chest and a full blown Chinese dragon peeking out
between the cheeks of his butt. If anyone was an authority on stuff
that looked like a comic book, it had to be this Chief.
Sometimes I look at all the crap stacked in my garage, close my eyes
and smile, remembering a time when everything I owned could be crammed
into a canvas bag.

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Scott in Florida
dbu` - 03 Nov 2009 12:35 GMT
> From another group. I was in the Navy when the Seabag was king,
> however my ship had bunks. It was still a gigantic pain in the arse.
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> and smile, remembering a time when everything I owned could be crammed
> into a canvas bag.
My dad had a bag like your sea bag only it was Army grey. He called it
a duffle bag. I called it a bag and used it for a fort, LOL. I was
just a little tike then. When you Navy guys walked with your seabag it
was always on your left shoulder, that is so that you could salute an
officer, :). I can imagine the most difficult part of owning a sea bag
was properly folding and packing your meager personal belongings and
uniforms. If done correctly all that stuff would have fit with room to
spare, :)
Ah yes, we all long for the good old days of youth and carefree living.
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Scott in Florida - 03 Nov 2009 14:16 GMT
>> From another group. I was in the Navy when the Seabag was king,
>> however my ship had bunks. It was still a gigantic pain in the arse.
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>Ah yes, we all long for the good old days of youth and carefree living.
That damned seabag was a bitch to travel with.
My flight aboard USS Enterprise during the Cuban Missle Crisis on a
COD (Carrier Onboard Delivery) prop plane from Gitmo included my
seabag. Got off the plane and the ship was at GQ (General Quarters).
Had NO f.cking idea wtf to do. Of course there were people to tell
me...LOL.
Impressive first introduction to the largest warship in the world!

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Scott in Florida
dbu` - 03 Nov 2009 13:47 GMT
> >> From another group. I was in the Navy when the Seabag was king,
> >> however my ship had bunks. It was still a gigantic pain in the arse.
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> Impressive first introduction to the largest warship in the world!
To think, while you were defending us down there near cuber, I was
hunting pheasants in the quiet cornfields and woods of Western
Wisconsin. I can still smell that fall air with the leaves rustling in
the light autumn breezes and the anticipation of another GB Packer win
under the leadership of Vince Lombardi. Horning to the left, Starr
back to pass........there goes Taylor up the middle.....Touchdown!!!!
Packers win again.
Long gone are those days of yesteryear. :(
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Scott in Florida - 03 Nov 2009 15:09 GMT
>> >My dad had a bag like your sea bag only it was Army grey. He called it
>> >a duffle bag. I called it a bag and used it for a fort, LOL. I was
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>Long gone are those days of yesteryear. :(
While you were smelling fall air, I was smelling JP4...LOL

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Scott in Florida
dbu` - 03 Nov 2009 20:50 GMT
> >> >My dad had a bag like your sea bag only it was Army grey. He called it
> >> >a duffle bag. I called it a bag and used it for a fort, LOL. I was
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> While you were smelling fall air, I was smelling JP4...LOL
Ah yes, that sweet smell of JP, I know it well.
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Scott in Florida - 08 Nov 2009 15:38 GMT
>> >> >My dad had a bag like your sea bag only it was Army grey. He called it
>> >> >a duffle bag. I called it a bag and used it for a fort, LOL. I was
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>Ah yes, that sweet smell of JP, I know it well.
and when one of the Snipes f.cked up on the ship and put a bit of JP
in our drinking water the lines to the heads were LONG....

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Scott in Florida
ByTor - 03 Nov 2009 14:33 GMT
> >> From another group. I was in the Navy when the Seabag was king,
> >> however my ship had bunks. It was still a gigantic pain in the arse.
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> Impressive first introduction to the largest warship in the world!
Were they using COD's (C-2A) back than? I landed in one of those
onboard, what a freakin jolt that was...........(LMAO)....Between that
plane and the E2-C Hawkeye they scared the sh.t out of me hooking them
up to the catapults.........premature break on the T bar & yer a frog in
a blender..............;0)
ByTor - 03 Nov 2009 14:54 GMT
> > >> From another group. I was in the Navy when the Seabag was king,
> > >> however my ship had bunks. It was still a gigantic pain in the arse.
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> up to the catapults.........premature break on the T bar & yer a frog in
> a blender..............;0)
Duh, I need an enema this morning.....Jeeeeeeez......I see you mentioned
CODS, DUH!!!!! But was it the C2-A is what I meant but I think I may
have answered my own question. The first prototype flew in 1964 (C2),
missile crisis 1962............;0)
http://navysite.de/planes/c2a.htm
Scott in Florida - 03 Nov 2009 15:16 GMT
>> >> From another group. I was in the Navy when the Seabag was king,
>> >> however my ship had bunks. It was still a gigantic pain in the arse.
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>up to the catapults.........premature break on the T bar & yer a frog in
>a blender..............;0)
No, the C-2A was around 1965 or 66.
I can't find the plane I flew on, but it was the one before the C-2A

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Scott in Florida
ByTor - 03 Nov 2009 15:18 GMT
> >> >> From another group. I was in the Navy when the Seabag was king,
> >> >> however my ship had bunks. It was still a gigantic pain in the arse.
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> I can't find the plane I flew on, but it was the one before the C-2A
See my last post, I corrected myself.........;0)
Jeff Strickland - 03 Nov 2009 16:20 GMT
> From another group. I was in the Navy when the Seabag was king,
> however my ship had bunks. It was still a gigantic pain in the arse.
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> and smile, remembering a time when everything I owned could be crammed
> into a canvas bag.
Now that they allow women aboard ships, has the meaning of sea bag changed?
Sorry to the sea bags out there.
UNRELATED BUT SIMILAR
My wife and I went aboard the USS Midway this past weekend. She (the ship,
not my wife) is docked in San Diego as a museum. Very cool stuff!
My brothers were stationed on the Kitty Hawk, my oldest brother was also on
the Ranger and Independence. I don't recall if they put him on the
Enterprise or not. He served for 25-ish years starting in '66. I've been
aboard the Hawk and watched helplessly as my brother went overboard. They
had just returned from Bremerton to SD and we were walking on the flight
deck. He went to rest against the cable circling the deck, except the cable
was not secured to the next post over. It's a good thing the safety nets
were up or he woulda got wet.
The Midway stacks the sailors three deep in quarters, the Jr. Officers are
stacked two deep. I wore a hole in my hat because the ceiling is so low
everywhere. Cool stuff. I recommend anybody that finds a Navy Museum go
aboard.
I had an uncle (Mom's sister's husband) that was the Commanding Officer of
the Hawk, I think. I was a kid, 3rd or 4th Grade, and we got invited to an
open house aboard, and we dined in the Captain's Mess as special guests. My
Mom and her sister weren't all that close, so we didn't see these people
very often. I think their name was Nichols.