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I'm betting the rest of the dems will tell obarry ..'if you want to help me, don't help me' when it comes to their relections in 2010. Obarry will gain a scarlet letter and become mr. avoid when it comes to the dems campaign trail.. Hello mr. irrelivant..? > I'm betting the rest of the dems will tell obarry ..'if you want to help > me, don't help me' when it comes to their relections in 2010. Obarry will > gain a scarlet letter and become mr. avoid when it comes to the dems > campaign trail.. Hello mr. irrelivant..? LOL! I was watching it on Fox. All the candidates Obama backed *LOST* Looks like the bloom is off the rose. They thought they would ride the Messiah's coattails, but like I've been saying, the Emperor's New Clothes... You know the story... > > I'm betting the rest of the dems will tell obarry ..'if you want to help > > me, don't help me' when it comes to their relections in 2010. Obarry will [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Messiah's coattails, but like I've been saying, the Emperor's New Clothes... > You know the story... Who in their right mind would expect every single democratic candidate to win? The issues in NJs elections had zero to do with national politics. You can dream on. In article <2fd12912-c650-4f59-9b92-7a5751d56f1b@m13g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>, > On Nov 3, 9:02 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote: > > > I'm betting the rest of the dems will tell obarry ..'if you want to help [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > to win? The issues in NJs elections had zero to do with national > politics. You can dream on. but, but eddie, had the dims won you'd be bloating and gloating here. -- > In article > <2fd12912-c650-4f59-9b92-7a5751d56...@m13g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > - Show quoted text - No I wouldn't. None of us on the left have ever gloated on this digest. Winning is only the first baby step. George W thought the battle was winning. He was shocked that winning was the easy part. Concentrating on winning alone is fiddling while Rome burns. In article <1b584b2c-8859-4140-a422-1e79c5fe5953@t18g2000vbj.googlegroups.com>, > > In article > > <2fd12912-c650-4f59-9b92-7a5751d56...@m13g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > battle was winning. He was shocked that winning was the easy part. > Concentrating on winning alone is fiddling while Rome burns. Oh, come on eddie, you do it every day. Don't make me laugh anymore my tummy hurts. -- >> > Who in their right mind would expect every single democratic >> > candidate to win? The issues in NJs elections had zero to do with [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > No I wouldn't. None of us on the left have ever gloated on this digest. Right. Let's go back to a year ago. > >> > Who in their right mind would expect every single democratic > >> > candidate to win? The issues in NJs elections had zero to do with [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Right. Let's go back to a year ago. Go ahead and search the archives. I'll wait. In article <8bcfa521-b8a9-4efb-85d0-c1e6552c578a@k26g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>, > > >> > Who in their right mind would expect every single democratic > > >> > candidate to win? The issues in NJs elections had zero to do with [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Go ahead and search the archives. I'll wait. eddie, you're whining right now. Buck up, you lost. -- > In article > <8bcfa521-b8a9-4efb-85d0-c1e6552c5...@k26g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I didn't lose. My family always asked why I never bought a house in NJ. I would softpedal the answers so as not to hurt their feelings. The list was too long to go through. One thing, NJ is too close to sea level. I need some altitude - foothills of the Poconos. In article <27231f8b-74f4-4a8a-a469-d904d447b9ba@j9g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>, > > In article > > <8bcfa521-b8a9-4efb-85d0-c1e6552c5...@k26g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > The list was too long to go through. One thing, NJ is too close to > sea level. I need some altitude - foothills of the Poconos. I can't find one reason why anyone would want to live in such a high tax state, unless they have lots, and I mean lots of $$$ with connections. NY...ditto. Maybe the new gov will whip that state into shape. Lets us hope, for the sake of your family. -- >> > I'm betting the rest of the dems will tell obarry ..'if you want to >> > help me, don't help me' when it comes to their relections in 2010. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > to win? The issues in NJs elections had zero to do with national > politics. You can dream on. Of course it did. But that didn't stop Corzine and Obama...oops, I mean OBAMA and Corzine from campaigning together. Corzine didn't get the boost he was hoping from mugging for the cameras with the Exalted one. You can kid yourself it was entirely on local issues, but people are starting to run from Democrats. That didn't take too long... >> LOL! I was watching it on Fox. All the candidates Obama backed *LOST* >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Who in their right mind would expect every single democratic candidate > to win? Obama, of course. He went there, turned on the charm, wowed the voters and ensured a victory for the Democrat cadidates. Corzine didn't have a chance to begin with. People in NJ had had enough of him. Obama appearing in ads and billboards in *front* of Corzine only made them run harder. Like i2dd said, "The ego has landed". ROFLMAO. Enjoy your one-term Boy Blunder. > I'm betting the rest of the dems will tell obarry ..'if you want to > help me, don't help me' when it comes to their relections in 2010. > Obarry will gain a scarlet letter and become mr. avoid when it comes > to the dems campaign trail.. Hello mr. irrelivant..? New Jersey is in no way a bellwether state for any election, including this one. The problem is New Jersey residents focus only on taxes collected and ignore where the money is spent. They piss and moan constantly but never do anything about the problem. Their social activism is limited to voting against their own best interests in every election, just so long as the minorities take some imagined hit. I know too many people in south Jersey who vote republican just to punish the minorities who seem to be responsible for everything bad in NJ - Camden, Trenton, Newark. Are you getting what I'm saying? Everybody I know in south Jersey sits on their a.s all year and watches hockey and football games and never devote any real effort to root out and force out the corruption and waste. >> I'm betting the rest of the dems will tell obarry ..'if you want to help >> me, don't help me' when it comes to their relections in 2010. Obarry [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > New Jersey is in no way a bellwether state for any election, including > this one. PFTPFTPFTPFTPFTPFTPFT Say this all you want. The voters saw the ads and the billboards with Obama standing in FRONT of Corzine and decided they wanted nothing more to do with either one of them. But, you keep spewing BS to make yourself feel better. > >> I'm betting the rest of the dems will tell obarry ..'if you want to help > >> me, don't help me' when it comes to their relections in 2010. Obarry [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > But, you keep spewing BS to make yourself feel better. Virginia is a red state. We will see. Once the healthcare bill is passed you might as well go into hibernation. >> > New Jersey is in no way a bellwether state for any election, >> > including this one. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Virginia is a red state. We will see. Once the healthcare bill is > passed you might as well go into hibernation. Once the healthcare bill is pased I'm working under the table and keeping my money in my mattress. > >> > New Jersey is in no way a bellwether state for any election, > >> > including this one. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Once the healthcare bill is pased I'm working under the table and keeping > my money in my mattress. That's a good team player attitude, a good citizen approach to your society and culture. >> Once the healthcare bill is pased I'm working under the table and >>keeping my money in my mattress. > >That's a good team player attitude, a good citizen approach to your >society and culture. The alternative is to become the ward of the state and live off other people's efforts.  Signature"Work harder. Millions on welfare are depending upon you." On Nov 4, 9:33 am, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Once the healthcare bill is pased I'm working under the table and > >>keeping my money in my mattress. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > -- > "Work harder. Millions on welfare are depending upon you." Not it is not. Your either/or, binary thinking and logic is extremely limiting for complex decision making. >>> Once the healthcare bill is pased I'm working under the table and >>>keeping my money in my mattress. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > The alternative is to become the ward of the state and live off other > people's efforts. Kinda what he made it sound like, isn't it? Also sounds like "From each according to his means, to each according to his needs." Unfortunately, that makes everyone poor. In article <b2092ff5-9eee-43ee-977c-40f0af464707 @m1g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>, edspyhill01@gmail.com says... > > >> > New Jersey is in no way a bellwether state for any election, > > >> > including this one. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > That's a good team player attitude, a good citizen approach to your > society and culture. So tell us, what's your contributions? You seem to support a lot of *government* contribution programs whick makes me assume that you are dependant somehow on governement. If my assumption is wrong than I will stand corrected. > In article <b2092ff5-9eee-43ee-977c-40f0af464707 > @m1g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>, edspyhil...@gmail.com says... [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Because I consider myself part of many nested cultural and societal groups, I pay my taxes, I support certain charity and social action groups, I try to use just enough natural resources, there are so many ways to be a good citizen. I try to be a good citizen, not some charicature of the American iconic loner. Maybe you could read some economic philosophers other than Neo-Cons. What I find funny is all of us were in the military and military service is very democratic, team efforts, group action. Were you all iconic rugged individualists standing alone on the deck or flight line or where ever you served? John Stewart Mill http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stuart_Mill Garret Hardin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons "Governing the Commons: The Evolution of Institutions for Collective Action (Political Economy of Institutions and Decisions)" Elinor Ostrom In article <06129801-fc94-4614-992a- 1193af074dbe@h2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>, edspyhill01@gmail.com says... > > In article <b2092ff5-9eee-43ee-977c-40f0af464707 > > @m1g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>, edspyhil...@gmail.com says... [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > Action (Political Economy of Institutions and Decisions)" > Elinor Ostrom Well I'm glad that you are what you consider a good citizen, me, I don't like feeling like I'm getting f.cked because this piece of sh.t government is all about self preservation & playing political games with our lives. You can keep dreaming that a government run country is the best one, me, I'll take my chances with what the people are saying & feeling now, this government & this current administration are pieces of sh.t & are not representing what the country wants. So you can argue all you want in support of all this crap, we are only seeing & hearing what they want us to. Call that paraniod or whatever you want but I'm tired of busting my a.s only for representatives to come in, play f.cking games, and strip me of my hard work because of a bunch of bleeding heart agendas. And I am not this neocon that you are painting me to be, I am someone motivated by personal reasons, is why I asked you what I asked of you so please keep your labels to yourself & that partisan bullshit, it don't fly with me. Yes I was in the military, how I felt being there is of no business of yours. You are placing an expectation of how I *should* feel and that's the problem everyone assumes what we all should be feeling about what's going on & that makes people resistant so don't preach to me. And your referances to materials to read, there are way to many f.cking eggheads thinking they know what's going on, I pay no attention to it, when people are SHOUTING from the rooftops telling a government they don't want something & they still *PUSH* stuff through without regard to *OPPOSITION* than I lose my respect for all of them. Remember this, "WE THE PEOPLE," its not we the government, so quote all the egg heads you want I go by what I see & hear. But with all that said, I do appreciate you responding as you are entitled to your opinion, one that I would respectfully, totally, disagree with. In article <b2092ff5-9eee-43ee-977c-40f0af464707 @m1g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>, edspyhill01@gmail.com says... > > >> > New Jersey is in no way a bellwether state for any election, > > >> > including this one. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > That's a good team player attitude, a good citizen approach to your > society and culture. So tell us, what's your contributions? You seem to support a lot of *government* contribution programs whick makes me assume that you are dependant somehow on governement? If my assumption is wrong than I will stand corrected. >> >> > New Jersey is in no way a bellwether state for any election, >> >> > including this one. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > That's a good team player attitude, a good citizen approach to your > society and culture. I'm a Capitalist, not a Socialist or Communist. In article <b1641992-b67e-4f35-8a23-35defa8469d1@h10g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>, > > I'm betting the rest of the dems will tell obarry ..'if you want to > > help me, don't help me' when it comes to their relections in 2010. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > watches hockey and football games and never devote any real effort to > root out and force out the corruption and waste. face it eddy, obama was slimed in NJ. VA was no surprise, but NJ should have been dim. Voters don't like the belligerent attitude of obama and his DNC thugs along with the big spending, healthcare and the ominous cap and trade deal that is hanging over industry now. Those two things alone are killing jobs now and in the future. The dims are right about one thing, unemployment at 10 percent or above, get used to it. That is unless we can kick the dims back out in the street in 10 and 12. The day of reckoning is coming for obama and his crew of thieves. -- > In article > <b1641992-b67e-4f35-8a23-35defa846...@h10g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Like I posted, New Jersey is an extreme case. They have the highest real estate taxes in the country, so probably the world. The election was all about taxes; nothing else. They would vote for Attila the Hun or Karl Marx if he promised to lower taxes. But taxes will never go down because the corruption in NJ is endemic. Too many people make a living from the taxes collected so not a thing will change. Just watch what happens over the next year. I have family there so I'll keep you all posted. In article <eacef1dd-f326-4a83-b904-057a46017d9d@m35g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>, > > In article > > <b1641992-b67e-4f35-8a23-35defa846...@h10g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > watch what happens over the next year. I have family there so I'll > keep you all posted. I'm reading you as an excuse for a failed obama/DNC/thugs attempt to ram-rod the rich and tax heavy corizonee into another term. -- >Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 05:53:58 -0500 Your clock is off. I suspect Macintoshes don't know how to handle Daylight Savings Time. > >Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 05:53:58 -0500 > > Your clock is off. I suspect Macintoshes don't know how to handle > Daylight Savings Time. My clock is correct. It is showing 0642 CST. The Mac's do indeed know how to handle DST. -- > >Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 05:53:58 -0500 > > Your clock is off. I suspect Macintoshes don't know how to handle > Daylight Savings Time. wait, I think I see where it might be showing in error. Because I rarely shutdown and close out apps, just put everything to sleep, the NW may not have picked up on the time change. My computer shows correct time. Check now and report back. This is almost as important as the big Republican win over obama yesterday. Obama got slimed badly. Must be terribly demoralizing for his thugs. -- > > >Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 05:53:58 -0500 > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > big Republican win over obama yesterday. Obama got slimed badly. Must > be terribly demoralizing for his thugs. Yes, that was it. The app did not pickup on the time change. All ok now. Thanks for the heads-up M.. -- >>Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 05:53:58 -0500 > > Your clock is off. I suspect Macintoshes don't know how to handle > Daylight Savings Time. Hmmm... You haven't mentioned anything about my clock for a while. I thought you'd stopped paying attention. I guess you've just given up... (If I set it for Windows, it's off in Linux, and V-V. I guess I'll have to have a look at the regional settings...) In article <eacef1dd-f326-4a83-b904- 057a46017d9d@m35g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>, edspyhill01@gmail.com says... > > In article > > <b1641992-b67e-4f35-8a23-35defa846...@h10g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > watch what happens over the next year. I have family there so I'll > keep you all posted. I definately agree with you here.......Not sure if you seen me mention my uncle but he's not holding his breath either, waaaaaaaaay to much self preservation in NJ in the wrong places. > In article <eacef1dd-f326-4a83-b904- > 057a46017d9d@m35g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>, edspyhill01@gmail.com [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > my uncle but he's not holding his breath either, waaaaaaaaay to much > self preservation in NJ in the wrong places. It's a dim run state, what do you expect. NJ needs a complete overhaul. Maybe the new gov. can make it happen. -- > > In article <eacef1dd-f326-4a83-b904- > > 057a46017d9d@m35g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>, edspyhill01@gmail.com [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > It's a dim run state, what do you expect. NJ needs a complete overhaul. > Maybe the new gov. can make it happen. Hopefully you are right. My Uncle has a few section 8 situations with his real estate and almost all of his property taxes have nearly doubled, its not sustainable for him......But they DARE not raise the rents on S8, he's rich, can spread the wealth & carry the burden, how dare he be insensitive. Like I said, he's not holding his breath, the new Gov. is going to be hit with a hard uphill climb going after all the *self preserved* positions in that state. > doubled, its not sustainable for him ^^^^^^^^^^^ AAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!!! LIBERAL BUZZWORD!!!! > > doubled, its not sustainable for him > ^^^^^^^^^^^ > > AAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!!! LIBERAL BUZZWORD!!!! (LMAO).......Yep, its *sustainable* for him, furthur in possible debt cus he can't maintain it & has to throw money at it even though investors say it won't work, sounds like a liberal philosophy & sounds familiar as well with this administration. Unfortunately he doesn't have those rich evil bastards & the backs of the middle class to help him with funds. >> Voters don't like the belligerent attitude of obama and his DNC thugs >> along with the big spending, healthcare and the ominous cap and trade [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > what happens over the next year. I have family there so I'll keep you > all posted. Obama talked about raising taxes and spreading the wealth and he won. Fortunately, the Independents who were in The Trance are waking up. The rest of you are still Sheeple. Enjoy your One Term Wonder. Hopefully Cogress will change to a more Common Sense entity a year from now and stem the damage the current crop of morons are doing. > Their social > activism is limited to voting against their own best interests in > every election, Hah! And who determines what their best interest is, Mr. Elitist? On Nov 4, 6:28 am, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Their social > > activism is limited to voting against their own best interests in > > every election, > > Hah! And who determines what their best interest is, Mr. Elitist? They do, but the tax bill is onerous. It's like a pain that makes every other pain go away. >On Nov 4, 6:28 am, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com> >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >They do, but the tax bill is onerous. It's like a pain that makes >every other pain go away. Lower the taxes, a conservative position. Guess who won? On Nov 4, 7:25 am, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com> wrote: > >On Nov 4, 6:28 am, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com> > >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Lower the taxes, a conservative position. Guess who won? Guess who will NOT lower taxes? The republican winner. Just keep a eye on NJ politics. This is not a right/left position, this is a point of view constructed from 30 + years of having discussions with family and freinds. Politicians never cut taxes except for the top 1%. |
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