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RIYADH (Reuters) - A Saudi court of cassation upheld a ruling to behead and crucify a 22-year-old man convicted of raping five children and leaving one of them to die in the desert, newspapers reported on Tuesday. The convict was arrested earlier this year after a seven-year old boy helped police in their investigation. The child left in the desert after the rape was three years old, Okaz newspaper said. International rights groups have accused the kingdom, the birthplace of Islam, of applying draconian justice, beheading murderers, rapists and drug traffickers in public. So far this year about 40 people have been executed in Saudi Arabia. In Saudi Arabia, crucifixion means tying the body of the convict to wooden beams to be displayed to the public after beheading. http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-43639120091103 > RIYADH (Reuters) - A Saudi court of cassation upheld a ruling to behead > and crucify a 22-year-old man convicted of raping five children and [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-43639120091103 gruesome. I wonder if all that, chopping off heads etc really helps deter future crimes, maybe, who knows. Just think, in a few decades or less, islamic rule will be here in the U.S. and women will have to cover their faces or else, criminals will get their heads chopped off and even minor thieves will find themselves minus hands and fingers, even eyes. -- > In article <xn0gh8se4oesbj...@news.albasani.net>, > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > - Show quoted text - You'll be one of the first to have your head loped off for misuse of your brain. You'll also be one of the first converts if American Islam promises to do all the things the Neo-Cons want to do. All the Islamists have to say is they are privatizing Social Security, doing away with Medicare, and cutting taxes and you'll be praying to mecca on your very own custom-made prayer rug. >> gruesome. I wonder if all that, chopping off heads etc really helps >> deter future crimes, maybe, who knows. Just think, in a few decades or [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > your brain. You'll also be one of the first converts if American Islam > promises to do all the things the Neo-Cons want to do. Ed uses the MSNBC buzzword! That's the secret word for the day! Is all the furniture in your room screaming like on PeeWee's Playhouse? > gruesome. I wonder if all that, chopping off heads etc really helps > deter future crimes, maybe, who knows. Just think, in a few decades or > less, islamic rule will be here in the U.S. and women will have to cover > their faces or else, criminals will get their heads chopped off and even > minor thieves will find themselves minus hands and fingers, even eyes. It didn't keep him from doing what he did, locks keep honest people honest. One thing for sure, he won't be doing it again. > RIYADH (Reuters) - A Saudi court of cassation upheld a ruling to behead > and crucify a 22-year-old man convicted of raping five children and [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-43639120091103 Since they're still cutting off heads, it apparently isn't such a great deterrent to new offenders. Not so different from our own approach to prevention using stiff penalties. The real solutions lie with upbringing, if any. >>RIYADH (Reuters) - A Saudi court of cassation upheld a ruling to >>behead and crucify a 22-year-old man convicted of raping five [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >approach to prevention using stiff penalties. The real solutions lie >with upbringing, if any. So what do you do with the offenders? >>>RIYADH (Reuters) - A Saudi court of cassation upheld a ruling to >>>behead and crucify a 22-year-old man convicted of raping five [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > So what do you do with the offenders? Obviously, cut off their heads, since they've already done the crime. But nothing will change unless societies keep kids away from influences which f.ck them up. Or at least that's what Bill Cosby said, and I agree with him. >> RIYADH (Reuters) - A Saudi court of cassation upheld a ruling to behead >> and crucify a 22-year-old man convicted of raping five children and [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > prevention using stiff penalties. The real solutions lie with upbringing, > if any. Of course the _real_ solutions lie with upbringing. But beheading is an excellent second best solution. Especially when dead children are strewn around the desert. >>> RIYADH (Reuters) - A Saudi court of cassation upheld a ruling to behead >>> and crucify a 22-year-old man convicted of raping five children and [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > excellent second best solution. Especially when dead children are strewn > around the desert. Of course, there are certain "organized factors" which may give people the idea that it's OK to commit crimes like that. Hopefully, mankind will eventually evolve to the point where these "organized factors" are seen for what they really are: A joke perpetrated mostly by men who wear dumb hats & robes. >>>> RIYADH (Reuters) - A Saudi court of cassation upheld a ruling to behead >>>> and crucify a 22-year-old man convicted of raping five children and [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > for what they really are: A joke perpetrated mostly by men who wear dumb > hats & robes. Are you saying that religion condones raping and murdering children? That's interesting. I'd like you to give citations. Maybe you could cite Islamic sources since an Islamic judge has ordered the execution of the guy that raped and murdered children. >>>>> RIYADH (Reuters) - A Saudi court of cassation upheld a ruling to >>>>> behead [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > Islamic sources since an Islamic judge has ordered the execution of the > guy that raped and murdered children. I see, you're full of crap. That's what I thought. There is no social acceptance anywhere in the known universe that says children should be raped and murdered and left in the desert. >>>>>> RIYADH (Reuters) - A Saudi court of cassation upheld a ruling to >>>>>> behead [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > There is no social acceptance anywhere in the known universe that says > children should be raped and murdered and left in the desert. I'm busy now, but I'm trying to recall where in the bible it explicitly says that the elders of a village should stone a kid to death for being "wayward" or some such thing. "Wayward" would be a great description for any normal teenager. >> I see, you're full of crap. That's what I thought. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > "wayward" or some such thing. "Wayward" would be a great description for > any normal teenager. That's not the discussion. YOU said, "Of course, there are certain "organized factors" which may give people the idea that it's OK to commit crimes like that. Hopefully, mankind will eventually evolve to the point where these "organized factors" are seen for what they really are: A joke perpetrated mostly by men who wear dumb hats & robes." YOU said that religion condones raping and murdering children. >>> I see, you're full of crap. That's what I thought. >>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > YOU said that religion condones raping and murdering children. Not directly. But it empowers people to do some very strange things, like run over a daughter whose styleee isn't what daddy thinks it should be. >>>> I see, you're full of crap. That's what I thought. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Not directly. But it empowers people to do some very strange things, like > run over a daughter whose styleee isn't what daddy thinks it should be. The RELIGION does not condone that. The moron that does such a thing might wrap it in religion, but that does not mean that the religion condones it. But, you've changed the subject. We were talking about the death penalty for a guy that raped and murdered multiple children, not a guy that got pissed at his own daughter for not embracing his view of what's important in life. Please try and remain on the topic that YOU initiated. Personally, I have no confidence that you have the ability to remain on your own topic. >>>>> I see, you're full of crap. That's what I thought. >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > Please try and remain on the topic that YOU initiated. Personally, I have > no confidence that you have the ability to remain on your own topic. Religion creates an atmosphere which weak-minded people interpret in ways which are obnoxious, antisocial or sometimes illegal. Obnoxious: I had a lunatic (fundamentalist) neighbor who verbally abused his wife all day long (loud enough for the neighbors to hear). One day, I asked him how he justified this. He said the bible designated that the man was the head of the household and that women were subservient. He was serious. He actually though the bible empowered him to treat his wife like trash. He's now the head of his own crappy studio apartment and his subservient wife got his house when she divorced him. His car, too. > Religion creates an atmosphere which weak-minded people interpret in ways > which are obnoxious, antisocial or sometimes illegal. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > He's now the head of his own crappy studio apartment and his subservient > wife got his house when she divorced him. His car, too. I don't care about ANY of that horseshit. All I want is a citation that condones raping and murdering children in the name of religion. YOU said that religion says this is okay, I want to know where in ANY religion this is true. I'd be particularly interested in a citation from the religion that is calling for some shithead to be executed for this, but I'll take any, that's A-N-Y citation you can give. HINT This would be a good time for you to say there is no such citation. >> Religion creates an atmosphere which weak-minded people interpret in ways >> which are obnoxious, antisocial or sometimes illegal. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > I don't care about ANY of that horseshit. Correction: You don't like hearing the truth. Religion creates an atmosphere which weak-minded people interpret in ways which are obnoxious, antisocial or sometimes illegal. >>> Religion creates an atmosphere which weak-minded people interpret in >>> ways which are obnoxious, antisocial or sometimes illegal. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Religion creates an atmosphere which weak-minded people interpret in ways > which are obnoxious, antisocial or sometimes illegal. That might be true (I do not accept the premise, but I'll go with it for the moment), but it's not the assertion you made and are yet to support. >> RIYADH (Reuters) - A Saudi court of cassation upheld a ruling to behead >> and crucify a 22-year-old man convicted of raping five children and [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > prevention using stiff penalties. The real solutions lie with upbringing, > if any. Joe, they're brought up with "An eye for an eye". Or worse. I still like the Honor Killings. Especially the one where the eldest son gets to cast the first stone at his mother in the event she is raped. That makes a lot of sense. |
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