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Nate - 05 Dec 2004 00:04 GMT
I have a 2005 Toyota Corolla where I have daytime running lights, and they automatically turn on when it gets dark.  Well, this past weekend I took the family to a Christmas drive through setting type of thing and I was asked to turn my lights off because it was dark.  Well, I explained that I couldn't, so I didn't know if there was anybody out there that knew a trick of being able to turn them off.  Thanks for the help
Philip - 05 Dec 2004 00:21 GMT
There is both a short term "trick" and permanent "fix."

The immediate "trick" is to turn OFF your engine.  If you need to keep it
running (i.e., for comfort heat/cooling), SET the Parking Brake, Restart the
engine.  The DRL lights will stay extinguished as will the headlights (photo
sentry circuit if dark outside) UNTIL you fully release the Parking Brake.

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 - Philip

> I have a 2005 Toyota Corolla where I have daytime running lights,
> and they automatically turn on when it gets dark.  Well, this past
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> anybody out there that knew a trick of being able to turn them off.
> Thanks for the help.
Nate - 05 Dec 2004 02:26 GMT
LOL!  Wow!  After a while I realized that the lights wouldn't come on until
I disengaged the Parking brake, but I didn't think that would be the "fix"
for my situation.  LOL!  That's too funny.  Thanks for the help!

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GLENN SMITH

> There is both a short term "trick" and permanent "fix."
>
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>> anybody out there that knew a trick of being able to turn them off.
>> Thanks for the help.
R Fruth in Houston < - - - - 05 Dec 2004 00:22 GMT
road ride Rob said the following:
> I have a 2005 Toyota Corolla where I have daytime running lights, and
> they automatically turn on when it gets dark.  Well, this past weekend I
> took the family to a Christmas drive through setting type of thing and I
> was asked to turn my lights off because it was dark.  Well, I explained
> that I couldn't, so I didn't know if there was anybody out there that
> knew a trick of being able to turn them off.  Thanks for the help.

Anything in the manual about disabling DRLs ?  This was a problem a few
years ago, ya had to drive around with the parking brake partially on
(which turned off the DRLs) but I would hope by 2005 this would have
been addressed (and has been in some makes/models but not sure about Toyota)

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Philip - 05 Dec 2004 02:02 GMT
> road ride Rob said the following:
>> I have a 2005 Toyota Corolla where I have daytime running lights,
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> sure
> about Toyota)

There is a Toyota bulletin for disabling both DRL and Twilight Sentry or
just the DRL operation.  I performed this on my 2003 per instructions. Gotta
crawl under the dash, snip a yellow wire, insulate one end, ground the
other.  The "repair" returns full headlamp control to the smart stick and
disabled the Twilight Sentry.  I LIKE.
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Nate - 05 Dec 2004 02:28 GMT
I'm rather not go snipping wires just yet, you know, only having the car for
a month or so.  I just wasn't sure if I was missing something in the manual.
Thanks.

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>> road ride Rob said the following:
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> the other.  The "repair" returns full headlamp control to the smart stick
> and disabled the Twilight Sentry.  I LIKE.
Philip - 05 Dec 2004 03:19 GMT
I did it in the first month.  I have a driveway that you turn into where my
headlights otherwise blare right into the neighbor's living room window if
the curtains are open (usually are open). Courtesy thing.

> I'm rather not go snipping wires just yet, you know, only having
> the car for a month or so.  I just wasn't sure if I was missing
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>>
>>  - Philip
Nate - 05 Dec 2004 12:16 GMT
Good call. Hmm.

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GLENN SMITH

>I did it in the first month.  I have a driveway that you turn into where my
>headlights otherwise blare right into the neighbor's living room window if
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>>>
>>>  - Philip
carl m - 10 Jun 2005 21:29 GMT
>> road ride Rob said the following:
>>> I have a 2005 Toyota Corolla where I have daytime running lights,
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>other.  The "repair" returns full headlamp control to the smart stick and
>disabled the Twilight Sentry.  I LIKE.
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Could you or anyone post the bulletin mentioned, or how to obtain it?  I
want to be able to drive with my lights off if I feel like it (which I do).
Thanks.
Carlm

Nate - 05 Dec 2004 02:27 GMT
Nope, nothing in the manual.  My lights are on like it or not.  As you can
see, it looks like the parking brake is still the "fix" for my situation.
Thanks.

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GLENN SMITH

> road ride Rob said the following:
>> I have a 2005 Toyota Corolla where I have daytime running lights, and
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> (which turned off the DRLs) but I would hope by 2005 this would have been
> addressed (and has been in some makes/models but not sure about Toyota)
Philip - 05 Dec 2004 03:19 GMT
Hahahha.  Did you REALLY expect there to be ANY mention of this in the
Owners Manual?  LOL

The "fix" I outlined (distinctly different from the "repair" I outlined)
will cost you because at some point you're going to find yourself having
driven around town with the Parking Brake dragging which will overheat and
damage your rear brake shoes.  Human imperfection.

> Nope, nothing in the manual.  My lights are on like it or not.  As
> you can see, it looks like the parking brake is still the "fix" for
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>> 1997 Trek 2300 for real fun !               ____   _ \ | _)
>> 2000 Civic hatchback                              (_)/  (_)
Nate - 05 Dec 2004 12:17 GMT
Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of.  I'm not used to using the parking brake
anyway, so it'll be totally new to me.  What a drag.  Thanks.

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GLENN SMITH

>
> Hahahha.  Did you REALLY expect there to be ANY mention of this in the
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>>> 1997 Trek 2300 for real fun !               ____   _ \ | _)
>>> 2000 Civic hatchback                              (_)/  (_)
BenDover@mailcity.com - 05 Dec 2004 21:13 GMT
You would be well advised to get into the habit of using the
parking brake, particularly if you live in a hilly part of the
country, unless you want to rely on a $5 pawl to protect what you
have invested in your vehicle.  Beside, don't you want to know it
will work if you ever need it in case of a brake failure?  ;)

mike hunt

> Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of.  I'm not used to using the parking brake
> anyway, so it'll be totally new to me.  What a drag.  Thanks.
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> >>> 1997 Trek 2300 for real fun !               ____   _ \ | _)
> >>> 2000 Civic hatchback                              (_)/  (_)
Philip - 05 Dec 2004 21:16 GMT
His car is not a Ford.

> You would be well advised to get into the habit of using the
> parking brake, particularly if you live in a hilly part of the
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>>>>> 1997 Trek 2300 for real fun !               ____   _ \ | _)
>>>>> 2000 Civic hatchback                              (_)/  (_)
Gord Beaman - 06 Dec 2004 03:48 GMT
>You would be well advised to get into the habit of using the
>parking brake, particularly if you live in a hilly part of the
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>
>mike hunt

Sure...and remember "use it or lose it"
(they tend to seize with rust if not exercised)
--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)
MDT Tech® - 06 Dec 2004 04:31 GMT
> You would be well advised to get into the habit of using the
> parking brake, particularly if you live in a hilly part of the
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>
> mike hunt

And not to mention, setting the parking brakes is what keeps the rear
shoes adjsuted. It doesnt come from backing up like some car makers do.
I get in a customers can and I can tell they dont use the ebrake, mainly
by how far the pedal goes down. Its always rigs with the auto trannies.
I will set in my stall and rapidly apply and release the parking brake.
In about a minutes, its right up to snuff again!
Nate - 06 Dec 2004 18:38 GMT
Hmm.  Thanks for the info guys.  Never thought about that.  Thanks

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GLENN SMITH

>> You would be well advised to get into the habit of using the
>> parking brake, particularly if you live in a hilly part of the
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> will set in my stall and rapidly apply and release the parking brake. In
> about a minutes, its right up to snuff again!
Nate - 06 Dec 2004 18:37 GMT
Good call!

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GLENN SMITH

> You would be well advised to get into the habit of using the
> parking brake, particularly if you live in a hilly part of the
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>> >>> 1997 Trek 2300 for real fun !               ____   _ \ | _)
>> >>> 2000 Civic hatchback                              (_)/  (_)
MikeHunt2@mailcity.com - 07 Dec 2004 01:22 GMT
Talk of prophecy.  I stopped at a corner to allow my wife to
deposit some letters in a mailbox.  While sitting there a late
model Buick stopped and parked in the driving lane on the cross
street to my right, even though there was a parking spot.  The
cross street was a steep hill about four blocks long and the
Buick was in the second block from the top. I could tell by the
way that the car rocked when the driver put it in park that he
did not apply the parking brake when he went inside the house.
As I was beginning to pull out I saw the Buick lurch and start to
roll.  I just watched as the car speeded up going down the hill,
hitting a half dozen parked vehicles, and ending up on the porch
of a house at the bottom..  The driver come out of the house,
carrying a box.  He looked down the street, yelled OH NO, dropped
the box and started to run to the bottom of the hill as
I drove off thinking of my recent post to this NG.  ;)

mike hunt

> Good call!
>
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> >> Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of.  I'm not used to using the parking brake
> >> anyway, so it'll be totally new to me.  What a drag.  Thanks.
ravelation - 05 Dec 2004 17:26 GMT


>Nope, nothing in the manual. My lights
>are on like it or not. As you can see, it
>looks like the parking brake is still the
>"fix" for my situation. Thanks.

Wow, this would piss me off if it were my car. I like automatic
headlights, but only when they're a 'choice'. I'm amazed Toyota cut the
corner and made it default, tied to the parking brake, no less!
Philip - 05 Dec 2004 18:59 GMT
>> Nope, nothing in the manual. My lights
>> are on like it or not. As you can see, it
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> headlights, but only when they're a 'choice'. I'm amazed Toyota cut
> the corner and made it default, tied to the parking brake, no less!

Annoyed me too.  That's why I followed the instructions to disable both
Twilight Sentry and DRL (the TS turned the headlamps on in mid afternoon
when traveling in a direction where the roof pillar shaded the photo eye and
DRL >Nanny Lights< just rub me the wrong way anyway).

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 - Philip

MDT Tech® - 05 Dec 2004 04:13 GMT
> I have a 2005 Toyota Corolla where I have daytime running lights, and
> they automatically turn on when it gets dark.  Well, this past weekend I
> took the family to a Christmas drive through setting type of thing and I
> was asked to turn my lights off because it was dark.  Well, I explained
> that I couldn't, so I didn't know if there was anybody out there that
> knew a trick of being able to turn them off.  Thanks for the help.

Will, short of disabling the,, turn the car off, set the park brake one
click, restart the car. Dont fully release the brake till your out of
the lights.
Glenn Arsenault - 05 Dec 2004 17:16 GMT
Due to the circuitry on the Corolla the easiest solution is to wire a switch
to ground and connect it to the Parking Brake terminal (11 ) of the Daytime
Running Light Relay.  The existing wire from the Parking Brake Switch to the
DRL relay is a Red/Black wire. Then you can control DRL with a simple
switch.
Nate - 05 Dec 2004 17:21 GMT
That's a really good idea.  Thanks for the help.

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GLENN SMITH

> Due to the circuitry on the Corolla the easiest solution is to wire a
> switch to ground and connect it to the Parking Brake terminal (11 ) of the
> Daytime Running Light Relay.  The existing wire from the Parking Brake
> Switch to the DRL relay is a Red/Black wire. Then you can control DRL with
> a simple switch.
Philip - 05 Dec 2004 18:59 GMT
This is false.  Your lame solution still has the Parking Brake light
flashing once the car is put in a gear.  Do the job properly ... per the
Toyota TSB.

> Due to the circuitry on the Corolla the easiest solution is to wire
> a switch to ground and connect it to the Parking Brake terminal (11
> ) of the Daytime Running Light Relay.  The existing wire from the
> Parking Brake Switch to the DRL relay is a Red/Black wire. Then you
> can control DRL with a simple switch.
Mark Pippin - 06 Dec 2004 03:43 GMT
In addition to the solutions mentioned, you can disassemble the center
console, flip the switch on the parking brake around and make the car
think the parking brake is on even when it isn't.  I did this for a
while until I did the yellow wire thing.  The only disadvantage is
that the parking brake indicator is lit up on the dash all the time.

Mark Pippin

> I have a 2005 Toyota Corolla where I have daytime running lights, and
> they automatically turn on when it gets dark.  Well, this past weekend I
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> knew a trick of being able to turn them off.  Thanks for the help.
> --
Nate - 06 Dec 2004 18:39 GMT
Yeah, I noticed that too when I tried doing that.  I'd rather have the
headlights on rather than the brake light.

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GLENN SMITH

> In addition to the solutions mentioned, you can disassemble the center
> console, flip the switch on the parking brake around and make the car
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>> that I couldn't, so I didn't know if there was anybody out there that
>> knew a trick of being able to turn them off.  Thanks for the help.
toyotawiz - 08 Dec 2004 23:05 GMT
i believe there is a technical service bullitin to turn them off. cansult
your toyota dealer
 
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