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Camry vs Accord  ?

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Henry Kolesnik - 29 May 2005 23:47 GMT
On Saturday my wife and I both drove the 4 cylinder automatics and really
like both the Honda and Toyota.  I couldn't find any significant difference
but my wife liked the looks of one better than the other and she can't
recall which one because we also drove the Mitsubishi Galant, Hyundai
Sonota, Toyota Matrix, and a PT Cruiser.  The PT & Matrix is off our list
and it's between Honda and Toyota  because the other 2 Asian cars depreciate
faster.  Apart from emotions with prices, performace and features
essentially the same what are factual reasons for selecting one over the
other.
tnx
Hank
FanJet - 30 May 2005 04:22 GMT
> On Saturday my wife and I both drove the 4 cylinder automatics and
> really like both the Honda and Toyota.  I couldn't find any
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> tnx
> Hank

Unless you plan on trading every couple of years, depreciation isn't an
issue. Do yourself a favor and try the '06 Sonata before you buy.
Henry Kolesnik - 30 May 2005 14:39 GMT
I did tyr an 06 Sonata and I liked it but am concerned about depreciation
and future resale.
Hank
>> On Saturday my wife and I both drove the 4 cylinder automatics and
>> really like both the Honda and Toyota.  I couldn't find any
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> Unless you plan on trading every couple of years, depreciation isn't an
> issue. Do yourself a favor and try the '06 Sonata before you buy.
Merritt Mullen - 30 May 2005 18:47 GMT
> I did tyr an 06 Sonata and I liked it but am concerned about depreciation
> and future resale.

Hyundai's reputation and quality has been improving greatly recently, so I
suspect their resale value will also.  And of course if the initial cost
is less than for an equivalent Japanese car, that offsets the depreciation.

Merritt
zonie - 31 May 2005 05:31 GMT
Do you mean the Sonata that loses 75% of it value in three years? It pains
me to hear that name on a Honda site. I dont like left over Mitsubishi
junk.
FanJet - 31 May 2005 21:39 GMT
> Do you mean the Sonata that loses 75% of it value in three years? It
> pains me to hear that name on a Honda site. I dont like left over
> Mitsubishi junk.

No, that's not what he meant. Try to keep up.
hachiroku - 01 Jun 2005 02:12 GMT
> On Saturday my wife and I both drove the 4 cylinder automatics and really
> like both the Honda and Toyota.  I couldn't find any significant difference
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> tnx
> Hank

They are both excellent cars. I haven't driven the Honda for a while; I
lean more towards sportiness and the Camry doesn't fill that bill. How
does the Honda drive?

BTW, why did you rule out the Matrix? I drove one for the first time the
other day and it is just what I like about Toyotas!

Even if it IS made in Canada...

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Mark A - 01 Jun 2005 02:27 GMT
>> On Saturday my wife and I both drove the 4 cylinder automatics and really
>> like both the Honda and Toyota.  I couldn't find any significant
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>> tnx
>> Hank

Honda handles a little better, and Camry is a little quieter. You can't go
wrong with either car if you maintain the car properly. Mobil 1 is highly
recommended after about 5-10K miles. If you can't afford full synthetic,
consider a synthetic blend.
yotaman - 02 Jun 2005 03:00 GMT
>>> On Saturday my wife and I both drove the 4 cylinder automatics and
>>> really
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> recommended after about 5-10K miles. If you can't afford full synthetic,
> consider a synthetic blend.

What does synthetic oil have to do with anything?  Plenty of toyotas have
accumulated 100's of thousands of km using standard oil...and since he is
concerned about resale,  it doesn't sound like he is necessarily keeping it
for the long haul.   As you mentioned, just performing the maintenance when
required and using a quality filter is key.  I prefer OEM filters because
their anti-drainback valve is of much better quality.  I have used Fram
filters on my 97 Camry and you could hear more clatter from the valves at
start up than you do with a Toyota filter.

One thing I've always admired about Toyota over Honda is the engine design
... now I can't speak for either of the current models but Toyota's are
typically non-interference designed engines, and if not they use a timing
chain.   With non-interference, if you do happen to blow a timing belt it is
not going to add  $1000 to the repair...I've heard of too many Honda's that
this has happened to.

P.S. My 97 currently has over 300000 km and is still going strong!!
Henry Kolesnik - 01 Jun 2005 05:00 GMT
The Matrix is too small.
Hank

>> On Saturday my wife and I both drove the 4 cylinder automatics and really
>> like both the Honda and Toyota.  I couldn't find any significant
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>
> Even if it IS made in Canada...
kgold - 07 Jun 2005 18:54 GMT
That was my impression as well.  The Matrix looks 'kewl', but there's
hardly any storage space behind the rear seats.  

I think you can't go wrong with either car.  When I was looking at
Corolla vs. Civic, my impression was that the Corolla was a bit
stiffer and better handling, and the Civic was marginally softer and
quieter.

I went with the 48 mpg Echo, since I suspect the current cheap US gas
prices aren't going to last forever.

> The Matrix is too small.
>
> >> On Saturday my wife and I both drove the 4 cylinder automatics
> >> and really like both the Honda and Toyota.  I couldn't find any
> >> significant difference

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Al - 09 Jun 2005 03:58 GMT
> On Saturday my wife and I both drove the 4 cylinder automatics and really
> like both the Honda and Toyota.  I couldn't find any significant
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> tnx
> Hank

They are both highly rated.  I have driven both the new Camry and the
Accord.  They are both very good.  There is one area that consumers
frequently overlook, i.e., how does the company react to warranty claims and
lemon law claims.  Do they allow you to use the BBB arbitration system or
will they only participate in lemon law arbitration with their own chosen
arbitrators.  Are they very accomodating on warranty claims or do they
sometimes play hardball.  I've had an experience when Honda, IMHO, played
hardball on something they should have honored on the warranty. That's why
we have chosen Toyota for our latest new car.  The warranty is one of the
most important things you get with a new car.  Don't take it for granted
that they all honor their warranties in the same friendly manner.  Some do
and some don't.
Al
Al
Ray O - 09 Jun 2005 06:02 GMT
>> On Saturday my wife and I both drove the 4 cylinder automatics and really
>> like both the Honda and Toyota.  I couldn't find any significant
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> Al
> Al
Toyota refers customers to their chosen arbitrator, which, IIRC, is BBB.
The arbitration is binding on Toyota but not on the customer, who can still
pursue lemon laws or whatever if they so choose.
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Ray O
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