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How to compute mileage (mpg)?

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Newbie - 25 Jun 2005 18:33 GMT
It may seem like a superfluous question, but what is the best way of
calculating what mmg yuor vehicle is getting? I have my miles reading
of course, and I can record how much gas I put in,  but there was some
gas already there in the tank, and how do I know what was traveled on
how much gas? If you have a good system, please share!
Scott in Florida - 25 Jun 2005 18:46 GMT
>It may seem like a superfluous question, but what is the best way of
>calculating what mmg yuor vehicle is getting? I have my miles reading
>of course, and I can record how much gas I put in,  but there was some
>gas already there in the tank, and how do I know what was traveled on
>how much gas? If you have a good system, please share!

I use my trip odometer.

When I fill up, I divide the number of gallons bought into the reading
on the trip odometer.

Then I zero it for the next tank.

Simple and works well.

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Scott in Florida

Mark A - 25 Jun 2005 19:33 GMT
> It may seem like a superfluous question, but what is the best way of
> calculating what mmg yuor vehicle is getting? I have my miles reading
> of course, and I can record how much gas I put in,  but there was some
> gas already there in the tank, and how do I know what was traveled on
> how much gas? If you have a good system, please share!

You have to do it over a long period of time (many tank fulls) and then
estimate the beginning fuel level the very first time. Any error in
estimating the beginning fuel level the first time will be minimized when
looking at 10 or more tanks of gas to calculate the mileage.
Kathy and Erich Coiner - 25 Jun 2005 19:40 GMT
1. Fill Tank.
2. Record mileage.
3. Drive car till near empty.
4. Fill tank again. Use same pump at same station. Let the auto shutoff
system work. (Do this on initial fillup too. Record gallons to fill
5. Record mileage.
6 mpg=  (mileage step 5-mileage step 2)/gallons used step 4.

Erich

> > It may seem like a superfluous question, but what is the best way of
> > calculating what mmg yuor vehicle is getting? I have my miles reading
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> estimating the beginning fuel level the first time will be minimized when
> looking at 10 or more tanks of gas to calculate the mileage.
BigJohnson@mailcity.com - 25 Jun 2005 22:10 GMT
What if he is traveling cross country?  ;)

mike hunt

> 1. Fill Tank.
> 2. Record mileage.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> > estimating the beginning fuel level the first time will be minimized when
> > looking at 10 or more tanks of gas to calculate the mileage.
Jeff Strickland - 27 Jun 2005 18:32 GMT
> 1. Fill Tank.
Correct.

> 2. Record mileage.
Correct.

> 3. Drive car till near empty.
Sorta. Drive as long as you want and refill the tank anytime you want.

> 4. Fill tank again. Use same pump at same station. Let the auto shutoff
> system work. (Do this on initial fillup too. Record gallons to fill
You make this much more difficult than it needs to be. All that is needed is
to fill the tank where ever it is convenient to get gas.

> 5. Record mileage.
Correct.

> 6 mpg=  (mileage step 5-mileage step 2)/gallons used step 4.
Correct. Repeat from Step 3.
Bruce L. Bergman - 28 Jun 2005 05:57 GMT

>> 4. Fill tank again. Use same pump at same station. Let the auto shutoff
>> system work. (Do this on initial fillup too. Record gallons to fill
>
>You make this much more difficult than it needs to be. All that is needed is
>to fill the tank where ever it is convenient to get gas.

Well, it /is/ slightly overkill - but if you want a little more
accuracy on your fill (let's say you are doing an economy run test for
a magazine or newspaper article, or just want to get more accurate
numbers on each fill) it's a simple and logical way to get it.

 Using the same gasoline pump means you will use the same fill
nozzle, and are parked at the same level (or not level) attitude on
the pavement.  Oh, and you want to use the same fill speed setting on
the nozzle, usually the slowest speed.

 Gasoline nozzles will vary a bit between different ones exactly when
they trip the automatic shutoff, but the same one will probably kick
within a quart from fill to fill.  This will get you a slightly more
accurate fuel mileage reading than using any old pump at any old
station.

 The only way to get better numbers would be to install a temperature
compensated calibrated fuel tank with a fill view port on the car,
like the ones your local County Weights and Measures guy uses to check
the calibration of the gas pumps.  (Megabucks, and a waste of effort.)

    --<< Bruce >>--
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Jeff Strickland - 28 Jun 2005 21:00 GMT
> >> 4. Fill tank again. Use same pump at same station. Let the auto shutoff
> >> system work. (Do this on initial fillup too. Record gallons to fill
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> the pavement.  Oh, and you want to use the same fill speed setting on
> the nozzle, usually the slowest speed.

A variation of a half gallon or so on 300 miles isn't going to have a
significant effect on the mileage.

>   Gasoline nozzles will vary a bit between different ones exactly when
> they trip the automatic shutoff, but the same one will probably kick
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>      --<< Bruce >>--
Robert Briggs - 28 Jun 2005 21:52 GMT
> >   Using the same gasoline pump means you will use the same fill
> > nozzle, and are parked at the same level (or not level) attitude on
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> A variation of a half gallon or so on 300 miles isn't going to have a
> significant effect on the mileage.

FSVO "significant effect".

With a car that returns 30 mpg, your "a half gallon or so on 300 miles"
represents a difference of 5% or thereabouts.  Heck, with some
econoboxes (of the European variety, at least) it could be as much as
10%.
Jeff Strickland - 28 Jun 2005 22:20 GMT
> > >   Using the same gasoline pump means you will use the same fill
> > > nozzle, and are parked at the same level (or not level) attitude on
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> econoboxes (of the European variety, at least) it could be as much as
> 10%.

If a car gets 25 mpg, and goes 300 miles, it will take a new fuel load of 12
gallons. If you cram in 12.5 gallons, the mileage will be 24 mpg, if 11.5
gallons then it will go to 26 mpg. This might be significant on a single
tank of gas, but over time it won't matter much.

The way to measure mpg is to fill the tank and reset the trip meter. Then,
on the next trip to the gas station, fill again and divide the distance
traveled by the quantity of the fuel load. Reset the trip meter, and repeat.

Unless one is doing a science project where the exact figures are critical,
then getting gas at Pump 1 on one trip, and Pump 6 on another won't make any
difference. Getting gas at one station (Brand X) and then getting gas at
another station (Brand Y) will have a greater impact than jumping from pump
to pump within the same station, or different stations of the same brand.
The Real Bev - 29 Jun 2005 02:24 GMT
> > >   Using the same gasoline pump means you will use the same fill
> > > nozzle, and are parked at the same level (or not level) attitude on
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> econoboxes (of the European variety, at least) it could be as much as
> 10%.

Has anybody determined what the original poster is going to do with this
information?  Does he really NEED 3 decimal places accuracy?

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Cheers, Bev
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Newbie - 29 Jun 2005 05:42 GMT
: Has anybody determined what the original poster is going to do with this
: information?  Does he really NEED 3 decimal places accuracy?

No, if the uncertainty was less than1mpg (that is, 28 means definitely
somewhere between 27.5 and 28.5), that would be fine.
Don Stauffer - 29 Jun 2005 16:55 GMT
> : Has anybody determined what the original poster is going to do with this
> : information?  Does he really NEED 3 decimal places accuracy?
>
> No, if the uncertainty was less than1mpg (that is, 28 means definitely
> somewhere between 27.5 and 28.5), that would be fine.

A few years ago I did tests to see whether my Neon with spark knock
sensing would get better milage on premium vs regular.  With ten fillups
on each,  the variance on each set of measurements was 0.2 mpg.  Regular
showed 0.1 better than premium, but since variance was 0.2 I had to
conclude no difference.

The fact that variance was so close on both sets of measurements (I
think it was 0.17 on one, 0.18 on other) indicates to me that at least
the way I was doing the testing was accurate (precise, actually) to
about 0.2 mpg.
Don Stauffer - 29 Jun 2005 16:51 GMT
>>>>  Using the same gasoline pump means you will use the same fill
>>>>nozzle, and are parked at the same level (or not level) attitude on
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Has anybody determined what the original poster is going to do with this
> information?  Does he really NEED 3 decimal places accuracy?

Seems to me the way to eliminate the pump cutoff point problem is to
fill till you can see fuel in neck.  Variation then should be very small.
The Real Bev - 30 Jun 2005 03:33 GMT
> Seems to me the way to eliminate the pump cutoff point problem is to
> fill till you can see fuel in neck.  Variation then should be very small.

At least in California you never actually see the gas until it blows back on
you, and even then it isn't necessarily up to the top of the neck.  I fill to
the automatic stop and then nudge it in until it stops again or reaches a 0 or
5 cent mark (I pay cash) or it blows back.  Sometimes I've put in as much as a
whole gallon after the automatic stop.  

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Cheers,
Bev    
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Don Stauffer - 30 Jun 2005 14:33 GMT
>>Seems to me the way to eliminate the pump cutoff point problem is to
>>fill till you can see fuel in neck.  Variation then should be very small.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> 5 cent mark (I pay cash) or it blows back.  Sometimes I've put in as much as a
> whole gallon after the automatic stop.  

After the auto shutoff I pull the nozzle out partway, just crack the
lever a bit to slowly fill the neck, so there is no great flow to splash
back.  However, most pumps here in Minn. do not have that big outer
recovery envelope, so it is easy  to see into filler neck.  Yeah, I'd
probably have problems with those big envelope fillers.
Merritt Mullen - 25 Jun 2005 20:08 GMT
> > It may seem like a superfluous question, but what is the best way of
> > calculating what mmg yuor vehicle is getting? I have my miles reading
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> estimating the beginning fuel level the first time will be minimized when
> looking at 10 or more tanks of gas to calculate the mileage.

Just ignore the first tank.  Fill up the tank and note the mileage.  After
that, so long as you fill up and note the mileage each time, the amount of
fuel it take to fill up is the amount used since the fill up, so simply
divide the miles since the last fill up by the amount it took to fill up  
the tank and you have your miles per gallon.

As Mark says, do it over many fill ups to get an accurate average.  I
usually note whether the driving between fill ups is local or highway, as
there will usually be a distinct difference in MPG between the two.

Merritt
BigJohnson@mailcity.com - 25 Jun 2005 22:04 GMT
You are just kidding this guy right?   ;)

mike hunt

> > It may seem like a superfluous question, but what is the best way of
> > calculating what mmg yuor vehicle is getting? I have my miles reading
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> estimating the beginning fuel level the first time will be minimized when
> looking at 10 or more tanks of gas to calculate the mileage.
DTJ - 26 Jun 2005 05:30 GMT
>> It may seem like a superfluous question, but what is the best way of
>> calculating what mmg yuor vehicle is getting? I have my miles reading
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>estimating the beginning fuel level the first time will be minimized when
>looking at 10 or more tanks of gas to calculate the mileage.

Uh huh.

Or, you could simply fill the tank, then reset your mileage counter,
then when you fill it next time you do a little thing called division.

If you wish, you can do this multiple times.  You could even write it
down.  You could then decide to average the average, or do running
averages.

Life is so simple with a little basic math.
Mark - 26 Jun 2005 16:26 GMT
You're so harsh...  LOL
Randy - 25 Jun 2005 19:36 GMT
> It may seem like a superfluous question, but what is the best way of
> calculating what mmg yuor vehicle is getting? I have my miles reading
> of course, and I can record how much gas I put in,  but there was some
> gas already there in the tank, and how do I know what was traveled on
> how much gas? If you have a good system, please share!

Fill the tank and record the mileage.

The next time you need gas, fill the tank and record the mileage.
Subtract the second mileage from the first mileage. Divide the result by
the amount of gas (gallons and tenths)  purchased the second time.

You can use the trip odometer if you have one. Reset when you fill up
the first time. When you refill, record the miles traveled, and divide
by the gallons purchased.
BigJohnson@mailcity.com - 25 Jun 2005 22:07 GMT
Do you expect him to drive backward?   LOL

mike hunt

> Fill the tank and record the mileage.
>
> The next time you need gas, fill the tank and record the mileage.
> Subtract the second mileage from the first mileage. Divide the result by
> the amount of gas (gallons and tenths)  purchased the second time.
Randy - 25 Jun 2005 23:11 GMT
oops, I had it right when I first wrote it, then for some strange reason
was compelled to change it. <g>

> Do you expect him to drive backward?   LOL
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>Subtract the second mileage from the first mileage. Divide the result by
>>the amount of gas (gallons and tenths)  purchased the second time.
Daniel J. Stern - 25 Jun 2005 19:38 GMT
> It may seem like a superfluous question, but what is the best way of
> calculating what mmg yuor vehicle is getting? I have my miles reading of
> course, and I can record how much gas I put in, but there was some gas
> already there in the tank, and how do I know what was traveled on how
> much gas? If you have a good system, please share!

It's very simple.

Fill your tank at a given station to a given point (say, the second time
the nozzle clicks off). Reset your trip odometer or note the mileage
reading.

Drive the car. The longer you drive it, the more accurate will be your
mileage calculation.

Return to the same gas station -- use the same pump if possible. Fill the
tank once again to the same point as before (say, the second time the
nozzle clicks off). Note the number of litres or gallons, and the odometer
reading.

Divide the number of miles you travelled by the number of gallons you
purchased. That is your fuel mileage (in miles per gallon) for that tank
of fuel.

OR

Multiply the number of litres you bought by 100, then divide the
result by the number of kilometres you travelled. That is your fuel
mileage (in litres/100km) for that tank of fuel.
Ray O - 25 Jun 2005 23:17 GMT
>> It may seem like a superfluous question, but what is the best way of
>> calculating what mmg yuor vehicle is getting? I have my miles reading of
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> result by the number of kilometres you travelled. That is your fuel
> mileage (in litres/100km) for that tank of fuel.

It is not necessary to return to the same gas station and the same pump to
calculate fuel mileage.  Most fuel pumps are regulated by the local
government's bureau of weights and measures so my guess is that the amount
of fuel recorded as delivered to the tank should be close enough for fuel
economy calculation purposes.

Monitoring fuel mileage is more useful to see a trend, not so much
individual tanks.  You will find over time, with the same driver in the same
road conditions, fuel mileage is going to be fairly consistent, within 2 or
3 mpg.  If you see a gradually decreasing trend, take the car in for a
checkup.
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Ray O
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SnoMan - 25 Jun 2005 20:36 GMT
"newbie7" wrote:
> It may seem like a superfluous question, but what is the best
> way of
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> traveled on
> how much gas? If you have a good system, please share!

Also, lacking a trip meter, record miles on odometer at fillup, take a
new reading at next fillup and subtract the old reading from the new
reading and then divide the result by the gallons used.
No Spam - 25 Jun 2005 20:48 GMT
> It may seem like a superfluous question, but what is the best way of
> calculating what mmg yuor vehicle is getting? I have my miles reading
> of course, and I can record how much gas I put in,  but there was some
> gas already there in the tank, and how do I know what was traveled on
> how much gas? If you have a good system, please share!

Amazing. Our educational system on display.
BigJohnson@mailcity.com - 25 Jun 2005 22:15 GMT
Sad isn't it.  It is like asking a person for directions and he
tells you to go south past my dads house then turn right.  If
you get to my brothers house your are three blocks past it.   LOL

mike hunt

> Amazing. Our educational system on display.
Kiran - 26 Jun 2005 05:30 GMT
: Sad isn't it.  It is like asking a person for directions and he
: tells you to go south past my dads house then turn right.  If
: you get to my brothers house your are three blocks past it.   LOL
: >
: > Amazing. Our educational system on display.

I don't think OP needs help with division or what to divide into what.
I interpreted his question as: how to estimate the # of gallons
consumed over a measured distance? I myself wonder just how accurate
the auto shut-off mechanism is for this purpose. But it gives an
estimate.

In the end, I care not so much about the most accurate mpg number (I
mean, what am I going to do, not buy groceries or drive to see my
family if mpg is x instead of y?), but about getting a warning if it is
consistently worse than usual.
DTJ - 26 Jun 2005 05:30 GMT
>> It may seem like a superfluous question, but what is the best way of
>> calculating what mmg yuor vehicle is getting? I have my miles reading
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Amazing. Our educational system on display.

I was amazed the other day when I had a chance to work with a brother
(16) and sister (14) at a concession stand.  They both would have
worked circles around almost every adult that works there.

Oh, the reason - parents own a store.
Norm De Plume - 28 Jun 2005 07:58 GMT
> Amazing. Our educational system on display.

Moves lips when reading stop signs?
davidj92 - 25 Jun 2005 21:03 GMT
> It may seem like a superfluous question

I agree wholeheartedly
davidj92
BigJohnson@mailcity.com - 25 Jun 2005 22:03 GMT
Fill the tank, record the mileage, run the tank down.  Fill it
again.  Subtract the mileage at the first fill from the mileage
at the second filling.  Divide that figure by the amount of fuel
consumed.  If that is too complicated ask your math professor for
additional help after class, WBMA

mike hunt

Newly wrote:

> It may seem like a superfluous question, but what is the best way of
> calculating what mmg yuor vehicle is getting? I have my miles reading
> of course, and I can record how much gas I put in,  but there was some
> gas already there in the tank, and how do I know what was traveled on
> how much gas? If you have a good system, please share!
Rich Lockyer - 26 Jun 2005 02:02 GMT
>It may seem like a superfluous question, but what is the best way of
>calculating what mmg yuor vehicle is getting? I have my miles reading
>of course, and I can record how much gas I put in,  but there was some
>gas already there in the tank, and how do I know what was traveled on
>how much gas? If you have a good system, please share!

Fill tank, reset trip odometer or record actual mileage.

Drive.

Refill tank.  For most accurate results, use the same pump parked in
the same position.  If you routinely "top off" then do so by the same
number of "clicks".

Record number of gallons.

Read trip mileage, or record actual mileage.

Subtract old mileage reading from new mileage reading... should match
trip mileage.

Miles per gallon equals miles/gallons... miles divided by gallons, or,
for example, you went 340 miles on 19 gallons, then your MPG is
340/19 or 17.9mpg

http://personal.linkline.com/rlockyer/TundraGas.xls

 --- Rich
 http://richlockyer.tripod.com/
Ad absurdum per aspera - 26 Jun 2005 02:28 GMT
To the good advice given elsewhere in the thread, I would add, "check
your speedometer" (and thus your odometer).  These things have some
intrinsic error, which might either stack up atop or the other
potential source of error:  hanges you have made by tire/wheel size.

Knowing how much and in which direction your speedometer is fibbing can
save you from tickets, too!

A few runs past one of those radar "sleds" at a steady and easily
readable speed should suffice, although  finding a stopwatch, or a
wristwatch with a sweep second hand, and timing yourself through a
measured mile or a "speedometer test section" on the freeway is the
classic way of doing it.

You can easily see how recordkeeping can combine with the aspects of
fillup discipline mentioned by others to let you partial out highway
from city from all-around mileage.

If all you want is a good horseback guess, the fillup practices are
probably the most important aspect, unless your speedometer is way off.

Also,   the study should be conducted over a span of time longer than a
couple of tankfuls but shorter than a season (differences in driving
habits as the weather changes, and in some areas differences in
gasoline formulation, can affect mileage).
Cheers,
--Joe
someone@somewhere.org - 26 Jun 2005 16:28 GMT
In alt.autos.toyota Ad absurdum per aspera <jtchew@california.com> wrote:
> To the good advice given elsewhere in the thread, I would add, "check
> your speedometer" (and thus your odometer).  These things have some
> intrinsic error, which might either stack up atop or the other
> potential source of error:  hanges you have made by tire/wheel size.

While not an issue with my Toyota, I've had several vehicles where the
odometer error is significantly less than the speedometer error.
Don Stauffer - 27 Jun 2005 14:08 GMT
> In alt.autos.toyota Ad absurdum per aspera <jtchew@california.com> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> While not an issue with my Toyota, I've had several vehicles where the
> odometer error is significantly less than the speedometer error.

Very likely.  The odometer is a pretty simple beast.  The speedo is
quite a bit more complex, and friction can spoil accuracy of
speedometer.  Cables are better these days, but in former years the
squeaking or howling cable not only was a source of irritation, but
destroyed the usefulness of the speedo because of its effect on
accuracy.  Worn springs or magnets are other sources of error.
Don Stauffer - 26 Jun 2005 16:12 GMT
> It may seem like a superfluous question, but what is the best way of
> calculating what mmg yuor vehicle is getting? I have my miles reading
> of course, and I can record how much gas I put in,  but there was some
> gas already there in the tank, and how do I know what was traveled on
> how much gas? If you have a good system, please share!

You need to mark the milage at each fillup.  Then take the gallons at
each fillup.  Take the milage since the last fillup (subtract previous
fillup milage from current milage.  Take gas you put in this fillup.
This is the gas you put in, even if there already was gas in tank, and
the milage you drove since then, so it doesn't matter how much was
previously in tank.

Then; miles PER gallon. PER means divide.  So divide miles by gallons.

Now, there are two trains of thought on how to handle statistics and
accuracy.

One thought is to take milage at beginning of several fillups.  Now keep
track of gas used in ten fillups, milage at last fillup.  Divide
cumulative milage by total of gas used.  This MAY eliminate some small
measurement errors.  But, it yields no statistics by which you can
measure accuray.

I prefer calculating milage each time, for ten times.  Average the ten
readings.  Now, compute variance.  This is done by taking each
individual milage calculation and subtracting average.  Square the
difference.  Some all the squares.  Now take square root of that sum.
Sounds like a lot of work, but with calculators it is a two or three
minute job.

Now, the average you compute is only accurate to within this square
root, with is the basic precision of your set of measurements.  For
instance, I tried ten tankfuls of regular, ten tankfulls of premium, to
see which gave better accuracy.  The value for regular was slightly
bette than the average for premium, but the amount of the difference was
only about half of the variance (that square root).  Thus I could not
conclude that regular actually gave me better milage- I have to conclude
that they are the same within the accuracy I can measure my gas milage.
Jeff Strickland - 27 Jun 2005 18:27 GMT
The very best way is to ALWAYS fill the tank everytime you get gas, then
divide the distance you went, 250 miles, by the new load of fuel, 12.5
gallons. The result, 20, is your miles per gallon. Fill the tank and reset
the odometer (trip meter).

I consistantly get just a bit over 25 mpg, so in 300+ miles I put in 12
gallons of gas, for just over 325 miles, I put in 13 gallons, for 275 miles,
I get 11 gallons.

It doesn't matter how much gas is left when you fill up. It does matter if
you fill to the brim, or only fill to the first shut-off. I usually fill to
the first shut-off, then top off to the next even dollar. I used to top off
to the next even quarter, but gas is getting so expensive that topping to
the next dollar is less than a half gallon, and this won't change your
formula very much.

So, you go to the corner today and buy gas. If you filled the tank to the
top AND reset the odometer the last time you got gas, then you can divide
the distance by the new load of fuel and derive the mileage. If you did not
fill to the top and/or reset the odometer, then this tank will be your
baseline and you can make no calculations from it. Then, in a week or so
when you visit the filling station again, then you fill the tank and divide
the distance by the fuel load. The result will be your mileage. If you go
250 miles and put in 10 gallons, then you got 25 mpg. All you have to do is
always fill the tank, never just get $5.00, or whatever. If you do just get
$5.00, then you have to add the gallons to the next fill up and leave the
odometer counting as if you had not gotten the few gallons.

After you do this a few times, you will be able to quickly calculate in your
head to confirm that you are getting the same mileage that you always get. I
get 25 mpg in my normal driving routine.

> It may seem like a superfluous question, but what is the best way of
> calculating what mmg yuor vehicle is getting? I have my miles reading
> of course, and I can record how much gas I put in,  but there was some
> gas already there in the tank, and how do I know what was traveled on
> how much gas? If you have a good system, please share!
ray - 27 Jun 2005 19:35 GMT
> It may seem like a superfluous question, but what is the best way of
> calculating what mmg yuor vehicle is getting? I have my miles reading
> of course, and I can record how much gas I put in,  but there was some
> gas already there in the tank, and how do I know what was traveled on
> how much gas? If you have a good system, please share!

Start with a full tank.
record mileage.
Drive.
At next fill, record mileage and the gallons to fill back up.

With my truck I just go to the first click.  Your mileage will vary
depending on the type of driving, the weather (-40 idling uses a lot of
gas) etc etc... so just keep tracking it.

I use a spreadsheet and track the average and the average for the last
10 tanks.  I found the last 10 tankfuls to be a good indicator of my
overall mileage.  I moved to a more rural area so I spent less time in
rush hour so the average mpg went up by a couple, but went back down in
the winter... and went up a couple mpg when I finally changed the plugs
and did a tune up.

My truck usually averages around 12-16mpg with the odd highway drive
above 20.

Why the average?  Because unless you drive the same road under the same
conditions at the same speed with the same brand of gas filled to the
same spot in the tank you're introducing all kinds of "error" into the
equation.  Averaging that over 10 tanks will give you a more "real
world" mileage.

If you have excel I can email you a copy of the spreadsheet...
Ray
John David Galt - 27 Jun 2005 20:21 GMT
> It may seem like a superfluous question, but what is the best way of
> calculating what mmg yuor vehicle is getting? I have my miles reading
> of course, and I can record how much gas I put in,  but there was some
> gas already there in the tank, and how do I know what was traveled on
> how much gas? If you have a good system, please share!

One normally assumes that the tank becomes equally full right after each
fill-up.  Therefore, all you need to do is reset your trip-odometer after
each fill-up, but first, divide the number on it by the number on the
pump.  (In other words, the amount of gas you just put in equals the
amount you used between the previous fill-up and this fill-up.)
The Real Bev - 28 Jun 2005 02:44 GMT
> It may seem like a superfluous question, but what is the best way of
> calculating what mmg yuor vehicle is getting? I have my miles reading
> of course, and I can record how much gas I put in,  but there was some
> gas already there in the tank, and how do I know what was traveled on
> how much gas? If you have a good system, please share!

Ask your little sister, she'll help you.

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John S. - 28 Jun 2005 13:56 GMT
> It may seem like a superfluous question, but what is the best way of
> calculating what mmg yuor vehicle is getting? I have my miles reading
> of course, and I can record how much gas I put in,  but there was some
> gas already there in the tank, and how do I know what was traveled on
> how much gas? If you have a good system, please share!

It's a basic math exercise usually found in the form of word problems.
For the results to have any value you have to fill up every time you do
the calculation.

Number of miles driven divided by number of gallons equals the miles
per gallon.

A cumulative average can be computed by using the same numbers as above
but just keep adding them in and redividing.  After a while the number
becomes glacially slow in responding to change and a performance
problem may not be noticed for several tanks.

A moving average covering some moderate time period like five fillups
is probably the most useful because it retains some responsiveness to
short term changes while also reflecting performance over more than one
fillup.  Unfortunately it also requires the most work.
 
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