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Wickeddoll® - 28 Jul 2005 00:00 GMT
Since the Echo got hit back in June, the gear box makes a sound similar to
the safety brake, when you move it forward.  Those sh.t-heads at "Courtesy
Toyota" claimed to have fixed it, but not surprisingly, they didn't.

Any thoughts?

Natalie

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Buck Frobisher - 28 Jul 2005 04:00 GMT
> Since the Echo got hit back in June, the gear box makes a sound similar to
> the safety brake, when you move it forward.  Those sh.t-heads at "Courtesy
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>
> Natalie

Try some different sh.t-heads?

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Wickeddoll® - 28 Jul 2005 04:19 GMT
>> Since the Echo got hit back in June, the gear box makes a sound similar to
>> the safety brake, when you move it forward.  Those sh.t-heads at "Courtesy
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Try some different sh.t-heads?

Works for me, but what I was asking is, could this be something related to
the accident.  Louis says yes, so I'll be calling the other guy's insurance
company, as well as the sh.t-heads, to let them know my list for them has
increased yet again.

Natalie
Ray O - 28 Jul 2005 05:34 GMT
> Since the Echo got hit back in June, the gear box makes a sound similar to
> the safety brake, when you move it forward.  Those sh.t-heads at "Courtesy
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Natalie

If it is a rubbing sound, make sure that nothing in the wheel wells are
touching any of the wheels.  Someone who knows what he or she is listening
to needs to hear it for a proper diagnosis.
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Wickeddoll® - 28 Jul 2005 05:40 GMT
>> Since the Echo got hit back in June, the gear box makes a sound similar to
>> the safety brake, when you move it forward.  Those sh.t-heads at "Courtesy
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> touching any of the wheels.  Someone who knows what he or she is listening
> to needs to hear it for a proper diagnosis.

I can tell you exactly what it sounds like - it sounds like pulling your
e-brake

Natalie
Ray O - 28 Jul 2005 06:32 GMT
>>> Since the Echo got hit back in June, the gear box makes a sound similar
>>> to the safety brake, when you move it forward.  Those sh.t-heads at
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Natalie

OK, so possibilities (assuming the noise is coming from the front and not
from the rear where the parking brake, A.K.A. e-brake is:

Bent brake backing plate
Mis-adjusted brakes (if noise is from the rear)
Bad wheel bearing (from whatever corner the noise is coming from)
Worn brake pad or sticking caliper slide
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Wickeddoll® - 28 Jul 2005 16:55 GMT
>>>> Since the Echo got hit back in June, the gear box makes a sound similar
>>>> to the safety brake, when you move it forward.  Those sh.t-heads at
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Bad wheel bearing (from whatever corner the noise is coming from)
> Worn brake pad or sticking caliper slide

It comes directly from the gearbox area, so I'm on the phone with the other
guy's insurance as I type.  State Farm, Courtesy Corporation, as well as
Toyota will hear about the sh.t sandwich that is Courtesy Collision Pro in
Central Florida.

Natalie, making the list of gripes even longer
Ray O - 28 Jul 2005 17:09 GMT
>>>>> Since the Echo got hit back in June, the gear box makes a sound
>>>>> similar to the safety brake, when you move it forward.  Those
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>
> Natalie, making the list of gripes even longer

The gear box is under the hood in front of the driver.  The shifter is what
you use to select gears.  If the noise is coming from the shifter, the noise
is somehow being telegraphed inside, the same principle as putting your ear
to railroad tracks.  Most likely cause is the transmission or driveline
itself.

Or, check for a loose nut behind the steering wheel <g>

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Wickeddoll® - 28 Jul 2005 17:15 GMT
>>>>>> Since the Echo got hit back in June, the gear box makes a sound
>>>>>> similar to the safety brake, when you move it forward.  Those
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> to railroad tracks.  Most likely cause is the transmission or driveline
> itself.

I just got off the phone with the other guy's insurance, State Farm, and
they've referred me to a local Toyota dealership/collision center, so we'll
see.  I'm glad I blogged every step of this nightmare, because I'm going to
put every single thing "Courtesy" Collision Pro did wrong - no matter how
many trees I have to kill!

> Or, check for a loose nut behind the steering wheel <g>

That's no way to speak of my son!  Wait...

Natalie
Bruce L. Bergman - 29 Jul 2005 03:37 GMT
>Or, check for a loose nut behind the steering wheel <g>

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Wickeddoll® - 29 Jul 2005 03:43 GMT
>>Or, check for a loose nut behind the steering wheel <g>
>
>  Natalie may have declared "Fwap Amnesty" - but don't push it.
>
>        --<< Bruce >>--

It's already been nullified - ask Dale (Night Spirit)

Natalie
Mark - 28 Jul 2005 17:44 GMT
I think you misspoke...  Hopefully "Courtesy Collision Pro" has nothing
to do with Toyota....

Here ya go...
http://www.collision-insight.com/news/20010904-autonation.htm
Wickeddoll® - 28 Jul 2005 18:22 GMT
>I think you misspoke...  Hopefully "Courtesy Collision Pro" has nothing
> to do with Toyota....
>
> Here ya go...
> http://www.collision-insight.com/news/20010904-autonation.htm

Actually, the 'Courtesy' corporation also has Toyota dealerships (It's where
we bought the Scion XA).  They're owned by the same company (Dan Marino is
their spokesperson), so I think Toyota should know that their dealers are in
cahoots with the worst service company I've ever seen.  I'm sure Toyota
doesn't own Courtesy, but I'm also just as sure that the Courtesy corporation
has Toyota/Lexus/Scion franchises.

Natalie
Mark - 28 Jul 2005 19:54 GMT
hmmm...  definitely a black eye for Toyota...  and that's not football
eye black either  ;-)
Wickeddoll® - 29 Jul 2005 02:25 GMT
> hmmm...  definitely a black eye for Toyota...  and that's not football
> eye black either  ;-)

Heh - yeah

Natalie
MelvinGibson@mailcity.com - 28 Jul 2005 17:49 GMT
Whenever one is not satisfied with a repair, it is best to take
the vehicle back to the shop and let it there until they correct
the problem.

mike hunt

> Since the Echo got hit back in June, the gear box makes a sound similar to
> the safety brake, when you move it forward.  Those sh.t-heads at "Courtesy
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Wicked little doll, you have no soul."
>                 (David Byrne, 1997)
markansas859 - 30 Jul 2005 02:50 GMT
> Whenever one is not satisfied with a repair, it is best to take
> the vehicle back to the shop and let it there until they correct
> the problem.
>
> mike hunt

good idea, Mike, but the car got hit, ended up in the shop,  right in the
middle of Wickeddoll and familys move out of state.

she had to make a special trip to go get the car, which was left for her
with a dead battery to boot.....
Wickeddoll® - 30 Jul 2005 05:39 GMT
>> Whenever one is not satisfied with a repair, it is best to take
>> the vehicle back to the shop and let it there until they correct
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> she had to make a special trip to go get the car, which was left for her
> with a dead battery to boot.....

Yup - did I mention that "Courtesy (Ha!) Collision Pro" in Orlando, FL sucks?
Oh yeah, I did... can I say it again?

The Echo is going to a local Toyota dealer, to be paid for by the other guy's
insurance.  I'll keep ya posted!

Natalie
Scott in Florida - 30 Jul 2005 13:02 GMT
>>> Whenever one is not satisfied with a repair, it is best to take
>>> the vehicle back to the shop and let it there until they correct
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>Natalie

Hey this is a cool way to checkout the new dealer and have someone
else pick up the tab...

Courtesy Collision is actually doing you a favor...

How about that for a positive look at a terrible situation???

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Wickeddoll® - 30 Jul 2005 20:42 GMT
>>>> Whenever one is not satisfied with a repair, it is best to take
>>>> the vehicle back to the shop and let it there until they correct
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>
> How about that for a positive look at a terrible situation???

I already see it as positive, but it only increases my scorn for CCP

Natalie
 
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