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Hachiroku - 29 Sep 2005 01:26 GMT http://www.looterguy.com/lootergallery1.htm
badgolferman - 29 Sep 2005 01:34 GMT Hachiroku, 9/28/2005, <pan.2005.09.28.12.30.07.146963@ae86.gts>,8:26:10 PM, wrote:
> http://www.looterguy.com/lootergallery1.htm That's hilarious!!! He is one ugly fella, ain't he?
I like the Looting for Dummies and the Abu Ghraib picture.
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Wickeddoll® - 29 Sep 2005 01:43 GMT > Hachiroku, 9/28/2005, <pan.2005.09.28.12.30.07.146963@ae86.gts>,8:26:10 > PM, wrote: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I like the Looting for Dummies and the Abu Ghraib picture. Most of those were funny, but I could have done without the ape references
:-P Natalie
Learning Richard - 29 Sep 2005 02:45 GMT > > Hachiroku, 9/28/2005, <pan.2005.09.28.12.30.07.146963@ae86.gts>,8:26:10 > > PM, wrote: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Most of those were funny, but I could have done without the ape references Yeah when I was doing some extreme rightism research recently, I found those images on old David Duke's website... tsk tsk
Hachiroku - 29 Sep 2005 03:36 GMT >> > Hachiroku, 9/28/2005, <pan.2005.09.28.12.30.07.146963@ae86.gts>,8:26:10 >> > PM, wrote: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Yeah when I was doing some extreme rightism research recently, I found > those images on old David Duke's website... tsk tsk Ghaaaa!!! YOU SAID IT AGAIN!!!!
Stop saying....IT!!!!
Learning Richard - 29 Sep 2005 04:16 GMT > >> > Hachiroku, 9/28/2005, <pan.2005.09.28.12.30.07.146963@ae86.gts>,8:26:10 > >> > PM, wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Stop saying....IT!!!! haha...
badgolferman - 29 Sep 2005 03:40 GMT Learning Richard, 9/28/2005, <1127958337.991280.322030@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,9:45:38 PM, wrote:
> > > Hachiroku, 9/28/2005, > > > <pan.2005.09.28.12.30.07.146963@ae86.gts>,8:26:10 PM, wrote: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Yeah when I was doing some extreme rightism research recently, I found > those images on old David Duke's website... tsk tsk What is this fascination you have with David Duke? Damn, everything is racist in your eyes. Get over it for a while and enjoy the humor for once.
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Learning Richard - 29 Sep 2005 04:14 GMT > Learning Richard, 9/28/2005, > <1127958337.991280.322030@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,9:45:38 PM, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > What is this fascination you have with David Duke? Does it make you uncomfortable?
> Damn, everything is > racist in your eyes. You must not have been down there in the South for long, bubba. It still means something in the South even though you wish it didn't. I wish it didn't too... but we have to stare it down man.
I don't know how things are in Hampton nowadays... but when I was a kid, things were still real segregated all over Tidewater. I doubt that its changed much. Its not like that here... but Virginia doesn't change very quickly.
> Get over it for a while and enjoy the humor for > once. I'm over it. I didn't post the link. I was just letting you in on a fact I have.
I don't mind talking about things you find controversial, because I find them controversial and scandalous.
badgolferman - 29 Sep 2005 13:40 GMT Learning Richard, 9/28/2005, 11:14:52 PM, <1127963692.405416.109560@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
> I don't mind talking about things you find controversial, because I > find them controversial and scandalous. No, you just want to stir sh.t up for the sake of being controversial and scandolous.
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Learning Richard - 29 Sep 2005 14:02 GMT > Learning Richard, 9/28/2005, 11:14:52 PM, > <1127963692.405416.109560@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > No, you just want to stir sh.t up for the sake of being controversial > and scandolous. you think? or do you just not think?
Wickeddoll® - 29 Sep 2005 19:09 GMT > Learning Richard, 9/28/2005, > <1127958337.991280.322030@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,9:45:38 PM, [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > racist in your eyes. Get over it for a while and enjoy the humor for > once. Gotta go with Richard on that one - referring to blacks as apes is an old, particularly vicious slur
Natalie
Louis M. Brown - 30 Sep 2005 02:24 GMT >> Learning Richard, 9/28/2005, >> <1127958337.991280.322030@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,9:45:38 PM, [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >Natalie An idiotic one, considering that blacks are NO MORE PRIMATE THAN THE REST OF HUMANITY.
Hell, truth be told, we're all apes, and probably dumber than our gorilla cousins, considering how we're f.cking up this planet, overall.
:P -LMB
Learning Richard - 30 Sep 2005 03:38 GMT > >> Learning Richard, 9/28/2005, > >> <1127958337.991280.322030@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,9:45:38 PM, [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > An idiotic one, considering that blacks are NO MORE PRIMATE THAN THE > REST OF HUMANITY. It is quite ridiculous. We share 98% of our genetic code with chimpanzees don't we? Something like that. Skin color is just a reaction to one's exposure to the sun.
Its all because of cosmic rays.
> Hell, truth be told, we're all apes, and probably dumber than our > gorilla cousins, considering how we're f.cking up this planet, > overall. We are all primates, and we can be pretty damn uncivilized too. But, man, those Christian Identity guys are off the damn hook. sheesh.
I'm just sick of the arrogance of that attitude! time to flip the script!
nttspam@s2-pc.om - 30 Sep 2005 10:33 GMT > > >> Learning Richard, 9/28/2005, > > >> <1127958337.991280.322030@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,9:45:38 PM, [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > I'm just sick of the arrogance of that attitude! time to flip the > script! What was before the universe was created and how was it created? Are there more than one universe? You can explain all with science? In the bigger scheme of things, Earth, humans, apes ect have only been for a relative blink of the eye. The question of did we evolve from apes or were created as the bible tells us in irrelevant. The bigger question is where did we come from as a universe, find that answer and you will know where humans came from or apes for that matter. I think God is much bigger than planet earth and human evolution or however science has explained.
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Wickeddoll® - 30 Sep 2005 16:36 GMT >> > >> Learning Richard, 9/28/2005, >> > >> <1127958337.991280.322030@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,9:45:38 PM, [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >> We are all primates, and we can be pretty damn uncivilized too. But, >> man, those Christian Identity guys are off the damn hook. sheesh. To say the least
>> I'm just sick of the arrogance of that attitude! time to flip the >> script! I'm not holding my breath
> What was before the universe was created and how was it created? Are > there more than one universe? You can explain all with science? In the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > much bigger than planet earth and human evolution or however science has > explained. *high-five*
Natalie
Wickeddoll® - 30 Sep 2005 03:54 GMT "Louis M. Brown" >>
>>"badgolferman" >>> Learning Richard, 9/28/2005, [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > An idiotic one, considering that blacks are NO MORE PRIMATE THAN THE > REST OF HUMANITY. Tell that to Duke and the like
> Hell, truth be told, we're all apes, and probably dumber than our > gorilla cousins, considering how we're f.cking up this planet, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > -LMB PREACH it, brother!
Natalie
nttspam@s2-pc.om - 29 Sep 2005 11:39 GMT > > > Hachiroku, 9/28/2005, <pan.2005.09.28.12.30.07.146963@ae86.gts>,8:26:10 > > > PM, wrote: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Yeah when I was doing some extreme rightism research recently, I found > those images on old David Duke's website... tsk tsk Who is david duke?
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Gary L. Burnore - 29 Sep 2005 13:05 GMT >> > > Hachiroku, 9/28/2005, <pan.2005.09.28.12.30.07.146963@ae86.gts>,8:26:10 >> > > PM, wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Who is david duke? Just a white supremisist a.shole that, while running for office, denied he was ever in the KKK even though he held office in said organization at the time. Of course, he was f.cking republican.
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nttspam@s2-pc.om - 29 Sep 2005 13:27 GMT > >> > > Hachiroku, 9/28/2005, > >> > > <pan.2005.09.28.12.30.07.146963@ae86.gts>,8:26:10 [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > denied he was ever in the KKK even though he held office in said > organization at the time. Of course, he was f.cking republican. What's in a name. He could have just as well been a democrat.
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Learning Richard - 29 Sep 2005 16:43 GMT "Dbu'' wrote:
> > >> > > Hachiroku, 9/28/2005, > > >> > > <pan.2005.09.28.12.30.07.146963@ae86.gts>,8:26:10 [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > What's in a name. He could have just as well been a democrat. Sure about 40 years ago... affirmative action cleared that ambiguity up just fine. By the mid-80s most of the Dixiecrats were out of the party, and in the Republican party.
Ask someone in the south what separates the North from the South. You'll get some interesting answers. Racism is still alive and well -- its just mixed with good old class warfare.
nttspam@s2-pc.om - 29 Sep 2005 17:05 GMT > "Dbu'' wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > You'll get some interesting answers. Racism is still alive and well -- > its just mixed with good old class warfare. Yes, class warfare that democrats love to keep stirred up, Hillary is one of them. The democrats base is with the poor. The idea here is to keep them poor and wanting, the democrats then promise them the sky and beyond knowing full well they'll never be able to deliver, but they keep the hopes up. I think it's cruel and shady politics myself. At least the republican party tells it straight and makes a decent attempt to let them help themselves, not keeping them on the hook with empty promises.
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Learning Richard - 29 Sep 2005 17:24 GMT "Dbu'' wrote:
> > "Dbu'' wrote: > > > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Yes, class warfare that democrats love to keep stirred up, Yeah yeah... uncomfortable when staring in the face of poverty. We don't need to keep it stirred up dude. The Republicans do that fine. Southern Strategy, remember?
Racism is a parasite on society, that kills it with the death of a thousand cuts. We have to deal with it and kill it first.
> Hillary is > one of them. The democrats base is with the poor. You need to check your party's mandate bud. Your party is good at harvesting poor voters. Look at the donation averages.
> The idea here is to > keep them poor and wanting, the democrats then promise them the sky and > beyond knowing full well they'll never be able to deliver, but they keep > the hopes up. What a bunch of pontification.
> I think it's cruel and shady politics myself. At least > the republican party tells it straight and makes a decent attempt to let HAHAHA when they're not being investigated or indicted on felony charges.
See BILL FRIST, TOM DELAY, KARL ROVE.
> them help themselves, not keeping them on the hook with empty promises. let them help themselves? let them eat cake? haha... ok let me run down to southeast and tell the kids on the corner to just "help themselves". Nay, I'll tell them to "just say no".
nttspam@s2-pc.om - 29 Sep 2005 20:56 GMT > "Dbu'' wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > down to southeast and tell the kids on the corner to just "help > themselves". Nay, I'll tell them to "just say no". The democrats had decades to help the poor and they are still poor. The democrats had decades to fix social security, it's still broke, but....GWB WILL get the job done, that is unless the democrats while fixated on hating Bush block any attempt to get it fixed. We can then once again blame the democrats. Democrats seem like a self centered political party if you ask me. They put up this facade of do-gooders, but hide the real truth and that is of lust for power and control over the masses which is hidden behind their socialistic tendencies.
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Scott in Florida - 29 Sep 2005 19:56 GMT >Yes, class warfare that democrats love to keep stirred up, Hillary is >one of them. The democrats base is with the poor. The idea here is to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >the republican party tells it straight and makes a decent attempt to let >them help themselves, not keeping them on the hook with empty promises. New Orleans is a prime example of the failure of the Democratic Party.
The poor in New Orleans are essentially slaves....caused by the 'great society' and all the other crap Democrats are doing TO the poor...
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Scott in Florida - 29 Sep 2005 20:00 GMT >Ask someone in the south what separates the North from the South. >You'll get some interesting answers. Racism is still alive and well -- >its just mixed with good old class warfare. My Dad told me....
The difference between the North and South is...
The North loves the race and hates the individual
The South loves the individual and hates the race
That is pretty much true.
I'll take loving the individual over loving the race.... ANY DAY
There is more discrimination in the North than there ever was or is in the South...
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Learning Richard - 29 Sep 2005 20:08 GMT > >Ask someone in the south what separates the North from the South. > >You'll get some interesting answers. Racism is still alive and well -- [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > That is pretty much true. Sounds to me like extreme black and white. How about not hating either based on race? That seems pretty damned simple to me. Propagating racist tracts doesn't help.
Wickeddoll® - 29 Sep 2005 20:34 GMT >> >Ask someone in the south what separates the North from the South. >> >You'll get some interesting answers. Racism is still alive and well -- [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > based on race? That seems pretty damned simple to me. Propagating > racist tracts doesn't help. Like it or not, people tend to be superficial - they go by what they see first. The true test is in their actions, not their furtive thoughts
Natalie
Scott in Florida - 29 Sep 2005 21:21 GMT >> >Ask someone in the south what separates the North from the South. >> >You'll get some interesting answers. Racism is still alive and well -- [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >based on race? That seems pretty damned simple to me. Propagating >racist tracts doesn't help. Are the statements true or not?
I find them to be true....
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Learning Richard - 30 Sep 2005 01:00 GMT > >> >Ask someone in the south what separates the North from the South. > >> >You'll get some interesting answers. Racism is still alive and well -- [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Are the statements true or not? They're not true for me.
> I find them to be true.... Check your head then.
Wickeddoll® - 29 Sep 2005 20:33 GMT >>Ask someone in the south what separates the North from the South. >>You'll get some interesting answers. Racism is still alive and well -- [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > There is more discrimination in the North than there ever was or is in > the South... Yup - the only true bald-faced racism I've seen has been north of the Mason-Dixon line
Natalie
Learning Richard - 30 Sep 2005 01:04 GMT > >>Ask someone in the south what separates the North from the South. > >>You'll get some interesting answers. Racism is still alive and well -- [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Yup - the only true bald-faced racism I've seen has been north of the > Mason-Dixon line That's not really what I'm referring to. Racism is de facto in most of the south. Segregation. Class separation. You name it. hell its like that in Baltimore as well -- except a lot more european ethnicities... its all the same though.
Those are the thousand cuts that bleed a society .. a neighborhood .. to its death.
Wickeddoll® - 30 Sep 2005 02:01 GMT Wickeddoll® wrote:
> > On 29 Sep 2005 08:43:44 -0700, "Learning Richard" > > <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Yup - the only true bald-faced racism I've seen has been north of the > Mason-Dixon line **That's not really what I'm referring to. Racism is de facto in most of the south. Segregation. Class separation. You name it. hell its like that in Baltimore as well -- except a lot more european ethnicities... its all the same though.
**Those are the thousand cuts that bleed a society .. a neighborhood .. to its death.
That's what I'm saying about your assertion - I've seen way more segregation, etc in the north than I have the south. Every southern city I've lived in since the 1970s has been very well integrated. Up north, they segregate mostly by class than race, but of course the minorities are more likely to be poor.
I've seen way more interracial groups of friends here in North Carolina, and in my native Florida, for instance, than I ever saw in Massachusetts, Vermont, Connecticut or anywhere else up north - I've even seen it more in the south than I did in California and Arizona.
All any of us can do is draw on our own conclusions by our experiences. My experiences say Scott's assessment in this instance is correct
Natalie
badgolferman - 29 Sep 2005 20:40 GMT Scott in Florida, 9/29/2005, 3:00:12 PM, <laeoj11o9jut8igjeg7mc4os7asqtpmoe8@4ax.com> wrote:
> There is more discrimination in the North than there ever was or is in > the South... I certainly agree with this. I have witnessed this personally living nearly everywhere in the East and South from Maine to Louisiana.
One of the easiest ways to identify discrimination is segregation. A more subtle way is the kind of jobs people get. You can see how the average person in the North views other races by their actions, not necessarily by their words. There is much less segregation in the South and people have grown to accept each other better on average.
Maybe all this is because of class and wealth which is more concentrated in the New England states, I don't know.
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Hachiroku - 29 Sep 2005 16:08 GMT On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:39:06 +0000, "Dbu'' wrote:
>> > > Hachiroku, 9/28/2005, <pan.2005.09.28.12.30.07.146963@ae86.gts>,8:26:10 >> > > PM, wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Who is david duke? WOW! Never heard of DD???
A "Conservative" who's really just a front for the KKK, working in the Republican Party who's real agenda is to try to legitimize the KKK.
In other words, an a.shole...
Learning Richard - 29 Sep 2005 16:46 GMT > On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:39:06 +0000, "Dbu'' wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > In other words, an a.shole... And get this -- he has been very active in Russia and Eastern Europe of late. Anti-semitism is centuries old there, and he has found a voice. See how the pendulum swings? Its extreme over there, from Communism to Fascism. Crazy stuff.
And note how the EE countries seem to be shifting to the Right.
Wickeddoll® - 29 Sep 2005 19:11 GMT > On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:39:06 +0000, "Dbu'' wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > In other words, an a.shole... That prick has ruined Bryan Adams' song, "Everything I do, I do it for you" - he used it as his campaign song. Adams promptly sued him, saying that Duke stood for everything Adams despises - good for Bryan!
Natalie
Hachiroku - 29 Sep 2005 20:48 GMT >> On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:39:06 +0000, "Dbu'' wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Natalie Really. i lean towards the Conservative, but as I have called Radical Liberals k00ks, Duke is a k00k ((HEY! I LIKE THAT!!!)) in the OTHER direction!
Hachiroku - 29 Sep 2005 03:35 GMT >> Hachiroku, 9/28/2005, <pan.2005.09.28.12.30.07.146963@ae86.gts>,8:26:10 >> PM, wrote: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Natalie Sorry, Nat...next time I'll look more closely... :(
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