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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / September 2005

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Corolla-Check Light

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Dorot29701@aol.com - 29 Sep 2005 16:08 GMT
I have a 2002 Corolla with a little more than 9,000 miles.  I only
drive it around town. On Oct. 18 the light on the dashboard came on -
the "check" light.  The manual says take the car to the dealer.  The
dealer kept it all day and found nothing wrong.  Only suggestion was
that the next time it was serviced I have them do something called a "p
and ?"....it's supposed to help with cars that never are driven fast on
the highway.  Yesterday the same thing happened and it's back at the
dealers.

Question:  Has anyone with a 2002 Corolla had a similar problem?  I was
going to have them do the "p and ?"  (whatever it is) next month when
the oil change is due.

Any suggestions about what could be causing this would be appreciated.
offen rong - 29 Sep 2005 16:48 GMT
>I have a 2002 Corolla with a little more than 9,000 miles.  I only
> drive it around town. On Oct. 18 the light on the dashboard came on -
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>
> Any suggestions about what could be causing this would be appreciated.

We had a similar situation on a 2003 Corolla at 32,000 miles.  Light came
on, and I went to the Toyota dealer.  They put their computer code reader on
it and when they did, the light went out, and no codes were listed.  They
said it happens, and that if it is a major malfunction (loss of oil
pressure, overheating, etc...), the code will remain in your computer until
it is fixed.  They also said that starting and stopping the engine several
times will usually clear a minor code.  No charge for the check, and the
light has remained out.  The only thing I think might have caused it to come
on was water sprayed on the car the night before and it may have gotten into
the engine compartment causing the check engine light to come on.
Jeff Strickland - 29 Sep 2005 17:35 GMT
Your car is OBD II (On Board Diagnostics, Level 2) compliant. There is NO
REASON for the dealership to keep you car all day, then bring it to the
front without doing anything more than scratch their head.

If you look along the bottom edge of the dash board in the area where your
left leg rests while you drive, you will find a connector. (You might find a
cover with OBD II or a variant molded on it.) This connector is where you
would connect the code reader. It is so easy that the Service Writer of any
dealership should provide the service for free when you pull into the
driveway. The Service Writer can pull the codes in less than a minute, and
tell you precisely what the expected service activity will be. Any dealer
that charges for pulling codes should be charged with highway robbery, but
that's just me I suppose.

The code reader will spit out a code like P0440, and the Service Writer
should tell you, "Mrs. Jones, the code reader says the framis valve is
complaining. We'll be looking at the framis valve and its wiring to see
where the trouble is." Then he should write on the service ticket, P0440,
Framis Valve. If there are other codes, then they will all come up at the
same time. More often than not multiple codes are all variants on the same
code. Fix the root and the other codes will be fixed at the same time.

If you wanted to drive down to an AutoZone store, they will let you pull
codes with their code reader for free. They (I think) are prohibited from
pulling codes for you because they are taking food out of the mouths of
service centers that charge for the service. But the service providers can
not prevent you from pulling your own codes and then affecting the repairs.
I understand that you might not be able to affect the repairs, but you can
pull the codes and know something about what is wrong with your car before
you take it in.

PS
P0440 is a malfunction of the Evaporative Emissions Control System, and most
often this is a fault that is rooted in the gas cap. I should have picked a
different fictitious code. Sorry.

>I have a 2002 Corolla with a little more than 9,000 miles.  I only
> drive it around town. On Oct. 18 the light on the dashboard came on -
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Any suggestions about what could be causing this would be appreciated.
Dorot29701@aol.com - 29 Sep 2005 21:11 GMT
I just talked with someone in the service department.  They have are
going to keep my car overnight.  They still don't know what the problem
is....the computer is giving them several codes and none of them have
checked out.  The team leader is busy on something else and they want
him to look at the car and see if he can figure out what is wrong.

I sure hope it doesn't turn out to be some "computer glitch" that keeps
on happening.   Also hope it doesn't turn out to be some expensive
problem.  The last time there was no charge.  Don't know about this
time.  The warranty must be almost  out.
Bruce L. Bergman - 29 Sep 2005 23:30 GMT
>I just talked with someone in the service department.  They have are
>going to keep my car overnight.  They still don't know what the problem
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>problem.  The last time there was no charge.  Don't know about this
>time.  The warranty must be almost  out.

 They know what codes it set, and they've obviously checked those
systems over and nothing shows up.  There are always going to be those
intermittent problems that won't show up when you are actively looking
for them - it's all part of life when dealing with very complex
mechanical & electronics systems.

 Let them keep it and put one of their Master Diagnostic Techs on it,
he might have seen that glitch once before and know where the part is
that works when they test it, but not when driving.

 If nothing else is found, make sure they write out every trouble
code the computer threw and everything the checked on the work order,
in detail.  That way you have it all documented if it breaks for real
just as the car hits two weeks out of warranty.

    --<< Bruce >>--

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