> I'm trying to eliminate odors within the venting system. The
> directions tell me to spray this stuff into the return duct under the
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> feet. Where is the duct that sucks air from within the cabin when you
> put it in RECIRC mode?

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> > I'm trying to eliminate odors within the venting system. The
> > directions tell me to spray this stuff into the return duct under
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> air to the passenger's feet do not. You might have to use a
> flashlight or drop light to see the intake.
Passenger side or driver's side? I couldn't find anything on the
passenger side and even Haynes manual doesn't show it. I know it
exists, but where?
> B-G sells stuff called Frigi-Fresh that is very effective. You
> should ask at car dealers to see if they carry it.
The dealer is the one who recommended Frigi-Fresh and told me to do
this procedure. I couldn't find that brand at auto parts stores and
bought a different kind that claims to do the same. Do you think I
should return it?
yjrybano2spam@yahoo.com - 05 Nov 2005 16:52 GMT
Golferman
I don't think that there is an actual "Return Duct" I think it is
simply an opening in the blower ass'y thru which air gets sucked in
when you are in "Recirc" position. If you can get to the blower you can
spray your stuff in there.
Another(better?) possibility is to set the system for "outside air"
rather than "recirc" and spray you stuff at the base of the windshield.
HTH
JerryR
> > > I'm trying to eliminate odors within the venting system. The
> > > directions tell me to spray this stuff into the return duct under
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> bought a different kind that claims to do the same. Do you think I
> should return it?
badgolferman - 05 Nov 2005 18:00 GMT
> Golferman
> I don't think that there is an actual "Return Duct" I think it is
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> windshield. HTH
> JerryR
I took a tissue and held it all over the underside of the dash -- on
top of the blower, all around it, driver's side -- I even held it up to
every vent I could find inside the car. It's incredible to say, but I
can't find any return duct or area that sucks the air back into the
system. I may be forced to use the outside air vent, but the problem
there is the stuff will get diluted with too much outside air. Maybe
I'll have to spray it in then close it back to RECIRC. Any other
ideas, fellas?

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Scott in Florida - 05 Nov 2005 18:10 GMT
>> Golferman
>> I don't think that there is an actual "Return Duct" I think it is
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>I'll have to spray it in then close it back to RECIRC. Any other
>ideas, fellas?
Is it the foam stuff?
If it is....I have one I got from the Toy dealer that has a hose and a
fitting you are supposed to shoot up the drain line.
The other part is supposed to be put in the air intake (up on the
cowl).
Is yours the same?

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badgolferman - 05 Nov 2005 18:44 GMT
> >> Golferman
> >> I don't think that there is an actual "Return Duct" I think it is
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>
> Is yours the same?
It is foamy. I have already gone ahead and sprayed it into the outside
vents under the wipers. Then I closed the RECIRC and let it
recirculate inside the cabin for five minutes. Now I'm airing out the
car and I'll report back later. It's called Quest Odor Out.

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yjrybano2spam@yahoo.com - 06 Nov 2005 15:59 GMT
Goferman.
Few things...
Are you trying to eliminate mildew/musty odors? if so the source for
them is probably the heater core or the ac evaporator areas, if you
spray your odor eliminator stuff into the blower( you said you can get
to it),which is upstream of the htr/evap that will distribute it to the
rest of the system.
If you spray the stuff at the base of the windshield, and than set it
to RECIRC, (like you wrote in your reply)nothing will happen since you
close the outside air intake, and the stuff will just sit there.
While the shop manual does not mention where the INSIDE air intak is,
it does say that you need to remove the glove compartment to gain
access to the blower unit, you might find the INSIDE air intake there.
Based on the illustration of the air distribution in the system (shows
that the only difference between outside air to inside air(RECIRC) is a
door that blocks one path while opening the other) I would guess that
the INSIDE air intake is part of, and right at the blower unit.
HTH
JerryR
davidj92 - 10 Nov 2005 22:37 GMT
>> Golferman
>> I don't think that there is an actual "Return Duct" I think it is
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> air. Maybe I'll have to spray it in then close it back to RECIRC.
> Any other ideas, fellas?
I saw a product on 2 Guys Garage that is an aerosol that you spray in a vent
and it foams up inside the evaporator case, kills the mold and when it
dissolves it drains out throught the evap drain. Don't know if it's any
better, but it might be easier to use.
davidj92
badgolferman - 10 Nov 2005 22:53 GMT
> > > Golferman
> > > I don't think that there is an actual "Return Duct" I think it is
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> when it dissolves it drains out throught the evap drain. Don't know
> if it's any better, but it might be easier to use. davidj92
That's pretty much the same stuff. However the directions told me to
spray it in through the return duct inside the cabin and since it
wasn't visible anywhere I ended up spraying it in through the outside
air vents. The smell of the spray is still within the venting system
so I can't really tell if the other smell is gone yet.

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Ray O - 07 Nov 2005 02:57 GMT
>> > I'm trying to eliminate odors within the venting system. The
>> > directions tell me to spray this stuff into the return duct under
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> passenger side and even Haynes manual doesn't show it. I know it
> exists, but where?
Passenger side.
There is a door that moves from the fresh air intake to the interior intake
when you switch the HVAC control from fresh to recirc. If you have your
head under the passenger side of the dash and switch from fresh to recirc,
you should be able to hear the door make a noise as it seals shut. If you
have your head under the dash with a light, you may even be able to see the
door open and close.
I read in one of your later posts that you sprayed from the outside and then
switched to recirc. That should work, although not as effectively as
spraying through the interior intake.
>> B-G sells stuff called Frigi-Fresh that is very effective. You
>> should ask at car dealers to see if they carry it.
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> bought a different kind that claims to do the same. Do you think I
> should return it?
B-G is only sold through dealerships. Another brand, Ozium, is sold at some
auto parts stores and is OK but IMO not as good as B-G Frigi-Fresh. I
believe GM dealers sell an air system cleaner as well. I don't think there
is any harm in trying the stuff you brought.

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badgolferman - 07 Nov 2005 03:17 GMT
> Passenger side.
>
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> and then switched to recirc. That should work, although not as
> effectively as spraying through the interior intake.
I know you probably know what you would be looking for but my neighbor
who works on cars and myself couldn't find it. Yes, we stuck our heads
in there and looked with a flashlight while the other one moved the
switch back and forth. I know it's there, but it must be awfully deep
inside the dash. I decided even if I could see it I wouldn't be able
to get to it easily anyway so that's why I sprayed it from the outside.
Now I've been driving around for a while with the heat on and the fan
on high trying to get the smell of the spray out of the car.

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Ray O - 07 Nov 2005 04:14 GMT
>> Passenger side.
>>
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> I know you probably know what you would be looking for but my neighbor
> who works on cars and myself couldn't find it.
You guessed wrong ;-) I went out and looked under the passenger side of the
dash on our '97 Avalon and couldn't see a thing other than the vent that
blows air to the floor. Of course, I didn't remove the underside cover to
see what was there.
Looking at the '97 Avalon factory repair manual, it looks like the recirc
intake is above the blower motor, which is to the left of the vent that
blows to the floor on the passenger side. It looks like the intake is
behind the center console.
Yes, we stuck our heads
> in there and looked with a flashlight while the other one moved the
> switch back and forth. I know it's there, but it must be awfully deep
> inside the dash. I decided even if I could see it I wouldn't be able
> to get to it easily anyway so that's why I sprayed it from the outside.
> Now I've been driving around for a while with the heat on and the fan
> on high trying to get the smell of the spray out of the car.
Good luck!

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