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Wiper arm needs adjustment?

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Steve - 07 Nov 2005 20:08 GMT
On my 2003 Highlander, the driver-side wiper blade drags on the
upstroke, smearing the windshield and making a
squealing/chattering/crunching noise.  Very annoying.

On the downstroke, it's perfect.  I've changed the blade a couple
times (using Toyota blades), hasn't solved the problem.

It's still under warranty, but it's a hassle getting to the dealer, so
I'd rather fix it myself if there's some sorta easy adjustment I could
make.  Any ideas?  Thanks!

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...G.K. Chesterton
ron - 07 Nov 2005 20:58 GMT
I'll tell you how I do it.  I grasp the whole wiper blade in both
hands and then twist the blade opposite of the chatter direction - the
idea is to SLIGHTLY bend the wiper arm where it attaches to the
blade - its minute adjustment, might take a couple of tries.

Properly adjusted blade has same amount of pivot in both directions.

Now, if I could get the damned rear blade on my 02 Highlander (the
plastic arm model) to work I'd also be happy

Ron
Steve - 08 Nov 2005 06:42 GMT
>I'll tell you how I do it.  I grasp the whole wiper blade in both
>hands and then twist the blade opposite of the chatter direction - the
>idea is to SLIGHTLY bend the wiper arm where it attaches to the
>blade - its minute adjustment, might take a couple of tries.
>Properly adjusted blade has same amount of pivot in both directions.

hmmm, not sure I understand this...

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Ray O - 08 Nov 2005 16:31 GMT
>>I'll tell you how I do it.  I grasp the whole wiper blade in both
>>hands and then twist the blade opposite of the chatter direction - the
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>
> hmmm, not sure I understand this...

Do-it-yourself wiper blade tweaks rarely work.

Before you start bending the blade, try this.  Soak a paper towel with
rubbing alcohol or brake cleaner and wipe the outside of the windshield.
Over time, road grime deposits an oily film on the glass.  You can also use
very fine steel wool (size 00) with just finger pressure on the glass after
you wet it with rubbing alcohol or steel wool to get the road grime off.

There are 3 parts to the wiper: arm, refill (rubber part) and blade.  The
blade has prongs that distribute tension evenly along the rubber.  If you
replace the blade and clean the glass, the chatter should stop.
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ron - 08 Nov 2005 18:26 GMT
If Rays way works so much the better - my way works but much easier to
show than to describe.

I know that nothing works on the Highlander read that I've done, new
refill.  super cleaning glass with rain-x cleaner etc..  I haven't
given up on it yet, but might need a new (metal) arm to keep
adjusted - this plastic one just seems "set" and won't let the blade
pivot enough to wipe.

Ron
Gord Beaman - 08 Nov 2005 19:23 GMT
>If Rays way works so much the better - my way works but much easier to
>show than to describe.
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>Ron
That's the secret right there...wipe...that's what the blade must
do, not 'push' as it travels...that's what makes it 'chatter'.

Ray's right that it hardly ever works, you've gotta get the angle
of the dangle just right, it has to 'wipe' in both
directions...if it 'wipes' too much in one direction then it'll
'push' in the other and you're skrude...   :)
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Ray O - 08 Nov 2005 20:50 GMT
> If Rays way works so much the better - my way works but much easier to
> show than to describe.

I know exactly what  you're talking about.  I'm cheap so I always try
tweaking the blade before changing it.  I've been working on cars for close
to 40 years, worked for an auto manufacturer for almost 15 years.  Of the
many blades I've tried to tweak over that time, I've gotten it perfect
exactly zero times.  It's kind of like catching a fly with chopsticks - a
quest that attemped often enough, may result in success.

> I know that nothing works on the Highlander read that I've done, new
> refill.  super cleaning glass with rain-x cleaner etc..  I haven't given
> up on it yet, but might need a new (metal) arm to keep adjusted - this
> plastic one just seems "set" and won't let the blade pivot enough to wipe.
>
> Ron

I've had poor success with plastic blades.  The exposure to sun and cold
seems to take the springiness out of them.  The rubber refills have a life
of about 6 months although people use them for a lot longer.
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ron - 08 Nov 2005 22:33 GMT
I should have, and didn't say its the damned rear wiper ARM on the
Highlander that is the problem.  It seems to actually be getting worse
in the angle department.  I use the silicon rubber blades in front and
other that every year or so when the car wash kinds of jimmy's the
bend a speck, they are fine.

The Highlander has (supposedly) a plastic rear wiper arm and a metal
one..

What I have done with my wiper arm adjustment technique if hand method
doesn't work is to use two small (6") crescent wrenches down near the
blade end and make a tiny angle adjustment by twisting the arm a
skosh.  I'd guess over the years I've probably done it to more cars
than I want to think about - had a license for nearly 53 years (got it
at 14!).

Ron
Steve - 09 Nov 2005 16:07 GMT
>There are 3 parts to the wiper: arm, refill (rubber part) and blade.  The
>blade has prongs that distribute tension evenly along the rubber.  If you
>replace the blade and clean the glass, the chatter should stop.

I've replaced the blade twice and cleaned the glass, still chattering
- only on the driver's side, and only on the upstroke.  Looks like I'm
off to the repair shop.  Sigh.

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Ray O - 09 Nov 2005 20:27 GMT
>>There are 3 parts to the wiper: arm, refill (rubber part) and blade.  The
>>blade has prongs that distribute tension evenly along the rubber.  If you
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> - only on the driver's side, and only on the upstroke.  Looks like I'm
> off to the repair shop.  Sigh.

If you "tweaked" the arm then it may need replacement if you cannot get it
bent back properly.
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Hachiroku - 09 Nov 2005 22:51 GMT
>>>There are 3 parts to the wiper: arm, refill (rubber part) and blade.  The
>>>blade has prongs that distribute tension evenly along the rubber.  If you
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> If you "tweaked" the arm then it may need replacement if you cannot get it
> bent back properly.

I don't mind 'tweaking' things on the Celica or the Terc Wagon I had last
year, but I sure as hell ain't gonna be tweaking nothing on the Supra or
the Corolla GTS! Too damn hard to locate some parts for! If something
needs fixing, I try to do it right on those cars!
Jeff Strickland - 09 Nov 2005 01:03 GMT
You can fix this with new blades. There is no adjustment to the arm ...

> On my 2003 Highlander, the driver-side wiper blade drags on the
> upstroke, smearing the windshield and making a
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>
> ...G.K. Chesterton
Jeff Strickland - 09 Nov 2005 01:04 GMT
PS
I said there was no adjustment, but it is possible to twist the arm a bit to
change the angle of contact of the blade ...

> On my 2003 Highlander, the driver-side wiper blade drags on the
> upstroke, smearing the windshield and making a
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>
> ...G.K. Chesterton
Steve Henderson - 11 Nov 2005 04:57 GMT
> PS
> I said there was no adjustment, but it is possible to twist the arm a
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>>
>> ...G.K. Chesterton

You know, I've been buying cars for about 35 years now, and up till now,
have never gone back to the dealership to buy replacement wiper blades.
When I bought my 02 Avalon, the wipers were VERY quiet. No slapping, no
temptation to sing along with Janice Joplin. So, being the kind of guy
who  doesn't change the way I work unless there's a good reason, I
motored down to AutoZone when the time came and bought some (ARCCO ?)
replacement blades. Well, the next time it rained, I was singing about
Bobby McGee(uh). By that time, I had actually thrown away the original
Wiper assemblies, so I couldn't just go to Toyota and buy the rubber
refills. To get my quiet wipers back, I went to Toyota and bought the
whole wipers, and that did it. It seems that the tolerances in the
Toyota parts are much closer than aftermarket blades - so from now on
I'll just get the rubber refills from Toyota and be happy. Sometimes,
skimping and saving $10 is just not worth it.

"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose
Nothing ain't worth nothing but its free"

--Steve
Scott in Florida - 11 Nov 2005 13:07 GMT
>> PS
>> I said there was no adjustment, but it is possible to twist the arm a
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>I'll just get the rubber refills from Toyota and be happy. Sometimes,
>skimping and saving $10 is just not worth it.

From what the local Toyota dealer tells me..

Toyota is going to stop stocking the wiper inserts!

Now you get the whole assembly for something like ten bucks.  I
FINALLY learned how to do the 'wiper blade dance' on two different
Toys and now they made it much easier....

>"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose
>Nothing ain't worth nothing but its free"
>
>--Steve
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reportspam@shaw.ca - 11 Nov 2005 17:44 GMT
> On my 2003 Highlander, the driver-side wiper blade drags on the
> upstroke, smearing the windshield and making a
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> ...G.K. Chesterton

That was happening on the wipers on my 02 Sienna too, I tried refills from
Toyota and also refills from Can. Tire and both had that squeak when going
up but nothing when going down.  I went to a local auto parts store and the
guy at the counter recommended Bosch refills, iinstalled them and no  more
noise.  If you can find a store that sells Bosch wipers/ refills try em out.
Jeff Strickland - 11 Nov 2005 23:31 GMT
>> On my 2003 Highlander, the driver-side wiper blade drags on the
>> upstroke, smearing the windshield and making a
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> more noise.  If you can find a store that sells Bosch wipers/ refills try
> em out.

I put Bosch blades on my BMW, and one of them skipped like crazy. I took the
rubber out and end-for-ended it, and the skipping stopped.

Wipers work by wiping a rubber blade over the glass. If the blade is an at
angle to the glass that causes it to be pushed, then it will skip in that
direction.
 
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