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Car Forum / Toyota / Toyota Cars / March 2006

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Prius and Insight question

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hachiroku - 28 Mar 2006 18:07 GMT
Hi.

We have a number of Prius and Insights in the parking lot at work. Being
that this is Vermont, which is like Northampton but Not Gay, this is not
surprising.

There is an area of the parking lot near the smoking area for parking
"Alternative Fuel Vehicles" where they all park (interesting, I thought they
STILL run on Gasoline as the primary source of power...)

At any rate, there were four of them the other day; the two Prius parked
next to two Insights, and then I noticed the Pop Out.

On ALL the hybrid cars, in the exact same spot on the front bumper (below
and to the left of the Driver's side headlight) there is what looks to be a
pop-out cover in the bumper cover.
What comes to my mind is that there is some kind of safety device located
behind this cover, or perhaps a plug, or...???

Being that these are two different makes of pretty much the same car (Yeah,
I know the differences, let's not get into that...), it occurred to me that
this is something mandated by the Japanese Government?

Any ideas (or actual KNOWLEDGE is even better, of course)
I swear I won't post anymore "Rules Of Thumb"...
SAMMM - 28 Mar 2006 19:48 GMT
pop-out
it's where a cover can be removed to insert a threaded gizmo to tow  the car
with.
the echo has the same thing as well as many other brands of car.
the gizmo is stashed with the spare tire and jack.

otherwise there is nothing hard enough to hook to on the front end of the
car.
'controlled crumple' is the term for the soft front ends.
that way, while the car is destroying itself, you are being somewhat
protected from
many Gs of deceleration.

another note: the prius uses the identical engine as the echo. i have one.
if you'd like a picture of the gizmo, i could send one.

sammmm

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Hachiroku - 28 Mar 2006 22:14 GMT
> pop-out
> it's where a cover can be removed to insert a threaded gizmo to tow  the
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> sammmm

Yeah, I used to work at a Toy dealer, but never paid enough attention (too
freaking busy!)
I also had a Tercel, which used the same engine as the Prius/Echo.
Yeah, if you can send a picture, I'd like to see it.

>> Hi.
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>> Any ideas (or actual KNOWLEDGE is even better, of course)
>> I swear I won't post anymore "Rules Of Thumb"...
Mike Hunter - 28 Mar 2006 20:41 GMT
That is the hook-up point for the salvage truck, when the $5,000 battery
pack needs to be replaced, I guess.   ')

mike hunt

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Hachiroku - 28 Mar 2006 22:15 GMT
> That is the hook-up point for the salvage truck, when the $5,000 battery
> pack needs to be replaced, I guess.   ')
>
> mike hunt

Usually I'd blast you for such a flip remark, but this time it's funny!

>> Hi.
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>> I swear I won't post anymore "Rules Of Thumb"...
Scott in Florida - 29 Mar 2006 00:34 GMT
>That is the hook-up point for the salvage truck, when the $5,000 battery
>pack needs to be replaced, I guess.   ')
>
>mike hunt

LOL....

'mike' are you stirin' the pot again?

>> Hi.
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Mike Hunter - 29 Mar 2006 01:31 GMT
Why not?   We need more that little richard and Dizzy to make our day do we
not?   LOL

mike hunt

>>That is the hook-up point for the salvage truck, when the $5,000 battery
>>pack needs to be replaced, I guess.   ')
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>>> Any ideas (or actual KNOWLEDGE is even better, of course)
>>> I swear I won't post anymore "Rules Of Thumb"...
Scott in Florida - 29 Mar 2006 03:27 GMT
>Why not?   We need more that little richard and Dizzy to make our day do we
>not?   LOL
>
>mike hunt

or the super serious Prius drivers...


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Mike Hunter - 29 Mar 2006 16:17 GMT
Come on, that is not fair, don't pick on the hybrid owners.  Don't you
understand they are just trying to save the world?  More importantly they
are saving gas for those of us that like to drive real cars.   ;)

mike

>>Why not?   We need more that little richard and Dizzy to make our day do
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> or the super serious Prius drivers...
mark_digital - 29 Mar 2006 16:54 GMT
> Come on, that is not fair, don't pick on the hybrid owners.  Don't you
> understand they are just trying to save the world?  More importantly they
> are saving gas for those of us that like to drive real cars.   ;)
>
> mike

Enjoy it while you can.
mark_
Andrew Stephenson - 29 Mar 2006 00:03 GMT
> [...]  On ALL the hybrid cars, in the exact same spot on the
> front bumper (below and to the left of the Driver's side
> headlight) there is what looks to be a pop-out cover in the
> bumper cover.  [...]

As others have said, it's the cover for the screw-in point for
the towing eye.  My guess is, they cover the hole because they do
not expect it to be needed often, so try to (a) stop dirt getting
in and blocking the hole (on a dark and stormy night, to be sure
-- have you noticed how every car has a device which detects when
it will be a major b*gger to have a breakdown?) and (b) keep the
front looking neat.
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Don Fearn - 29 Mar 2006 01:42 GMT
Hard to believe, but true -- "hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> typed:

>On ALL the hybrid cars, in the exact same spot on the front bumper (below
>and to the left of the Driver's side headlight) there is what looks to be a
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>Any ideas (or actual KNOWLEDGE is even better, of course)
>I swear I won't post anymore "Rules Of Thumb"...

I believe it's a cover for the towing thingie (doncha love those
technical terms ;^) -- at least, that's what's behind the leetle cover
on the bumper of my Scion . . . .

-D (no rules of thumb from me either)
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Hachiroku - 29 Mar 2006 03:32 GMT
> Hard to believe, but true -- "hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> typed:
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> -D (no rules of thumb from me either)

Why, I believe you're right.

Um, you have a Scion?
Please say it's an xA.

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Gord Beaman - 29 Mar 2006 04:55 GMT


>> -D (no rules of thumb from me either)


Anyone know where that phrase comes from?...
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Ray O - 29 Mar 2006 05:25 GMT
>>> -D (no rules of thumb from me either)
>
> Anyone know where that phrase comes from?...

According to wikipedia.org:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thumb

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Gord Beaman - 29 Mar 2006 14:49 GMT
>>>> -D (no rules of thumb from me either)
>>
>> Anyone know where that phrase comes from?...
>
>According to wikipedia.org:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thumb

Well, 'sure'...go look it up!... :),

*I*, on the other hand, 'knew' the answer!...mentioned it ONCE to
my wife (years ago)...I still remember the snarl (and the "Bring
it on Mac")   :)
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Don Fearn - 30 Mar 2006 00:09 GMT
Hard to believe, but true -- Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.GTS> typed:

>Um, you have a Scion?
>Please say it's an xA.

OK; "It's an xA."

But that was a lie. It's an xB.

And it's the BEST commuter car I've ever owned in every way.

Its only drawback is . . .

. . .

. . . I can't think of any.

And before you make any snide remarks, it is NOT ugly; it's HOMELY.
There is a difference.

-D
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Mike Hunter - 30 Mar 2006 00:37 GMT
Everybody laughs at you as you drive by?   ;)

mike hunt

> Hard to believe, but true -- Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.GTS> typed:
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> -D
Don Fearn - 30 Mar 2006 01:39 GMT
Hard to believe, but true -- "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com>
typed:

>Everybody laughs at you as you drive by?   ;)
>
>mike hunt

Sure; complete with giggling and pointing.

And that's a problem . . . WHY?

-Don (any attention is GOOD attention ;^)
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Mike Hunter - 30 Mar 2006 16:00 GMT
Look at this way, you get to laugh at the drivers of the Element and the
Aztex and there are a lot more of them at which to laugh.   ;)

mike hunt

> Hard to believe, but true -- "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com>
> typed:
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> And that's a problem . . . WHY?
Don Fearn - 31 Mar 2006 00:49 GMT
Hard to believe, but true -- "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com>
typed:

>Look at this way, you get to laugh at the drivers of the Element and the
>Aztex and there are a lot more of them at which to laugh.   ;)

Uhhh . . . not really. I think the Element is more of a kindred
vehicle to my xB. As for the Aztec, I mostly look at them with pity. A
pretty nice vehicle, I've heard, but saddled with looks that even its
mother couldn't love. Not homely, not ugly, just . . . sad looking.

The only vehicle I laugh at is the Humbler H2 -- especially when I
parked next to one the same color as my xB at a home improvement
store. I wish it had still been there when I came out so I could have
warned them, "THIS could happen to your H2 . . . if you're not careful
at the car wash! Look at mine; it SHRUNK!"

-Don
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Ray O - 30 Mar 2006 06:05 GMT
> Hard to believe, but true -- Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.GTS> typed:
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> -D

A local taxi company has invested in a fleet of xB's.  Their radio ads say
that since the majority of the taxis only pick up one passenger, they are
being more responsible by using a lot less fuel, and passengers get about
the same legroom as the mid size cars they were using before.
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Don Fearn - 30 Mar 2006 12:33 GMT
Hard to believe, but true -- "Ray O"
<rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> typed:

>A local taxi company has invested in a fleet of xB's.  Their radio ads say
>that since the majority of the taxis only pick up one passenger, they are
>being more responsible by using a lot less fuel, and passengers get about
>the same legroom as the mid size cars they were using before.

I read somewhere that in response to the Best Buy Geek Squad, whose
members drive around in Beetles, Circuit City is getting a fleet of
xBs for their service folk to drive around in.

-Don (makes sense to me)
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Ray O - 30 Mar 2006 19:38 GMT
> Hard to believe, but true -- "Ray O"
> <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> typed:
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> -Don (makes sense to me)

IMO, the Geek Squad beetle fleet is a clever marketing idea.  I don't know
if the xB has the same cutsey factor as a Beetle, it will be interesting to
find out long term results.
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Hachiroku - 31 Mar 2006 08:16 GMT
> Hard to believe, but true -- Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.GTS> typed:
>
>>Um, you have a Scion?
>>Please say it's an xA.
>
> OK; "It's an xA."

Well, thank God it's not a tC, I'd be jealous then!

> But that was a lie. It's an xB.
>
> And it's the BEST commuter car I've ever owned in every way.
>
> Its only drawback is . . .

It's a Tercel in a Box?

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> -D

I once saw a line of 6 Aztecs. I had a migraine for a week.

The xB is actually kind of cool; I play in a band and was considering one
to haul gear around in.

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