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Car Forum / UK Car Forums / 4x4 Cars (UK group) / August 2006

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Brake warning light

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Steve Loft - 28 Jul 2006 14:30 GMT
What I assume is the brake warning light (I have no owner's manual - I
do know it's not the handbrake light) has come on, on my 1995 Ford
Maverick. The brake fluid reservoir is full, so what else could it be?

It's just passed an MOT, so I assume the brake pads are all OK (but I
will check), and I don't think it has sensors for those anyway.

Faulty sensor?
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Hirsty's - 28 Jul 2006 19:42 GMT
> It's just passed an MOT, so I assume the brake pads are all OK (but I
> will check), and I don't think it has sensors for those anyway.
>
> Faulty sensor?

MoT only checks state on the day. The brake test does'nt check pad depth
only whether they work to a certain degree. Possibly the sensor warning you
the depth is on the margin for the pad.
Steve Loft - 28 Jul 2006 20:59 GMT
> MoT only checks state on the day. The brake test does'nt check pad depth
> only whether they work to a certain degree. Possibly the sensor warning you
> the depth is on the margin for the pad.

I've checked and there are no sensors on the pads.

I've disconnected the plug from the fluid sensor and the light stays on.
I've shorted the contacts on the plug and the light stays on. So I guess
that discounts the fluid sensor.

I don't know if the warning light is for problems other than the fluid
level, if not then maybe the warning system itself is faulty. I could do
with a wiring diagram.
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Hirsty's - 28 Jul 2006 21:42 GMT
> I've checked and there are no sensors on the pads.

Is it possible that there should be sensors and some muppet at MoT damaged
them, removed them and caused a fault to show ?
Hirsty's - 28 Jul 2006 21:42 GMT
> > I've checked and there are no sensors on the pads.
>
> Is it possible that there should be sensors and some muppet at MoT damaged
> them, removed them and caused a fault to show ?

The sensor wire that is.
Steve Loft - 29 Jul 2006 09:15 GMT
> Is it possible that there should be sensors and some muppet at MoT damaged
> them, removed them and caused a fault to show ?

No, I'm pretty sure it shouldn't have them.

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hugh - 28 Jul 2006 23:56 GMT
>> MoT only checks state on the day. The brake test does'nt check pad depth
>> only whether they work to a certain degree. Possibly the sensor warning you
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>level, if not then maybe the warning system itself is faulty. I could
>do with a wiring diagram.
Does it think the hand brake is on?
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Steve Loft - 29 Jul 2006 09:30 GMT
> Does it think the hand brake is on?

There's a separate light for the handbrake (which is going off OK), so I
assume the handbrake doesn't affect the other brake light.
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Tim Adlam - 31 Jul 2006 08:57 GMT
>> MoT only checks state on the day. The brake test does'nt check pad depth
>> only whether they work to a certain degree. Possibly the sensor
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> I've shorted the contacts on the plug and the light stays on. So I guess
> that discounts the fluid sensor.

Not so sure. If the sensor triggers by breaking the circuit
rather than making it, removing the plug from the senosr
would not tell you whether it's the sensor at fault. You
need to find out which way round it is, or test with a known
good sensor (perhaps from a friend's car?).

> I don't know if the warning light is for problems other than the fluid
> level, if not then maybe the warning system itself is faulty. I could do
> with a wiring diagram.

Tim A
Hirsty's - 19 Aug 2006 15:57 GMT
> >> MoT only checks state on the day. The brake test does'nt check pad depth
> >> only whether they work to a certain degree. Possibly the sensor
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Tim A

Remove the bulb
Steve Firth - 29 Jul 2006 12:44 GMT
> It's just passed an MOT, so I assume the brake pads are all OK

That's a bloody stupid assumption. An MoT doesn't test pad wear, all it
tests is brake efficiency on the day.

It could be a pad wear warning, once triggered these usually have to be
reset or it could be an ABS failure.
Steve Loft - 29 Jul 2006 13:45 GMT
>> It's just passed an MOT, so I assume the brake pads are all OK
>
> That's a bloody stupid assumption. An MoT doesn't test pad wear, all it
> tests is brake efficiency on the day.

Must just be the garage I use, then. Every time I've put a car in for an
MOT, they've told me if the pads will need replacing soon.

> It could be a pad wear warning, once triggered these usually have to be
> reset or it could be an ABS failure.

It has no pad sensors, nor ABS.
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