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Car Forum / UK Car Forums / 4x4 Cars (UK group) / November 2006

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Paul {Hamilton Rooney} - 03 Nov 2006 19:13 GMT
Safe? Sensible?

Any informed advice welcome, thanks.
Michael Swift - 03 Nov 2006 19:38 GMT
>Safe? Sensible?
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>Any informed advice welcome, thanks.

I spent 7 months in hospital and a further 2 months off work after a
friends re-tread stripped at 70 mph, I wouldn't touch them with a barge
pole, but it's your choice in the end and things might have improved in
the last 35 years.

Mike

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Simon H - 04 Nov 2006 20:19 GMT
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My Suzuki Samurai has been on remoulds for years without any significant
problems. Mind you, it hasn't been out of low range for about 4 years and it
hasn't seen tarmac for considerably longer than that...

Simon H
Ian Rawlings - 04 Nov 2006 20:45 GMT
> My Suzuki Samurai has been on remoulds for years without any significant
> problems. Mind you, it hasn't been out of low range for about 4 years and it
> hasn't seen tarmac for considerably longer than that...

My landy 110's been on them for 3 years, mud terrains, the tubes went
down in the first month or so until I found a proper tyre fitter but
other than that they've been OK.  That's a mix of road and green
laning.

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Scotty - 04 Nov 2006 10:43 GMT
> Safe? Sensible?
>
> Any informed advice welcome, thanks.

Safe as houses, as long as they stay on the
trailer/wheelbarrow/trolly/forklift.

Or if your not planning on reaching over 40MPH or so.
Ian Rawlings - 04 Nov 2006 12:04 GMT
> Or if your not planning on reaching over 40MPH or so.

Retreads have an unrealistically bad reputation, they're fine.  Just
make sure that you try and stay away from those that need inner tubes,
as they'll usually be on tubeless carcasses and tyre fitters don't
seem to be able to handle tubes that well these days.  I had five
good-quality tubes puncture in one month when I first fitted tubed
tyres.

The OP also doesn't state what he/she/it is going to be using them
for, mine are mud terrains and have been fine other than problems
caused by the bad tube fitting.

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Ewan Scott - 06 Nov 2006 10:28 GMT
>Safe? Sensible?
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>Any informed advice welcome, thanks.

Many years ago I ran on retreads because I couldn't aford anything
else. They were awful but....

Times have changed.  For car and 4x4 tyres most retreads are
manufactured to a very high quality.

Ony good quality casings are used for retreading. There is a limit to
the number and size of repairs that a retreader will accept on his
casings.

The tread and sidewalls are buffed down to a computer controlled
specification.

High quality products are used to rebuild the body of the tyre and it
is then cured in a pressure mould. In exactly the same way as a new
tyre is manufactured.

The retreaded tyre is then pressure tested.

There is very little difference between the way a new tyre is finished
and a retread is finished.

People point to the debris at the roadside and say - bloody retreads -
but the reality is that it is just as likely to be a new tyre as a
retread that has left the debris.

All tyres can "chunk out", if have bits of rubber tread fly off. All
tyres can delaminate if they are subjected to mistreatment - ie
overloaded or run at too low a pressure. Running overloaded or at low
pressure builds up heat in the sidewall, and in the tread - I've seemn
a new W rated tyre running 10% low and overloaded disintegrate at
230kph in lab conditions.

I've seen the waste at both new and retread factories, and believe me,
new tyre manufacturers have an astonishingly high waste rate through
faults. Retreaders nowadays have to use some pretty sophisticated
equipment to check each and every tyre that comes off the line so the
quality of most UK retreads is actually pretty high.

If you do go for a retread then Colway is a pretty safe bet - most Uk
retreaders only do Truck tyres nowadays, But I do know that Insa Turbo
get imported from Spain, and you might come across Hiperimperio from
Portugal, Black Star from France, and Malatesta and Marix from Italy (
Marix is Marangoni's retread brand and Marangoni make some pretty
nifty new tyres under their own label Marangoni, and also as Stunner.

And yes, I'm involved in the business but I don't sell tyres and have
nothing to gain from the above.

Ewan Scott
Mr E - 08 Nov 2006 15:26 GMT
> Safe? Sensible?
>
> Any informed advice welcome, thanks.

I use Colway C trax ATs on my Rodeo during the winter. They get a mixture
from dry tarmac to forest stages. Never had a problem.

Cheers

D
steven anderson - 11 Nov 2006 17:24 GMT
Virtually every articulated truck trailer in Europe runs on remoulds.  They
run at constant motorway speeds.

The carcasses that you see at the side of the road, are caused by drivers
not checking tyre pressures.
S.

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