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Car Forum / UK Car Forums / 4x4 Cars (UK group) / December 2006

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Pickup fuel consumption

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Frank B - 06 Dec 2006 18:38 GMT
I am thinking of buying a larger caravan which will necessitate a
larger car and I have been thinking of the new versions of the L200 or
Nissan Navara.

Can anyone tell me what the real world fuel consumption of these
vehicles is like ? Any other info on running costs greatly appreciated

Frank
Huw - 06 Dec 2006 21:56 GMT
>I am thinking of buying a larger caravan which will necessitate a
> larger car and I have been thinking of the new versions of the L200 or
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> Frank

Around 25 to 30mpg at best depending on how and where you drive them.
Unless you run a VAT registered business they are hellish expensive to buy
and drive for what they are.

Huw
Steve - 07 Dec 2006 18:55 GMT
>>I am thinking of buying a larger caravan which will necessitate a
>> larger car and I have been thinking of the new versions of the L200 or
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> Huw
Do you drive either of them Huw or just taking a wild guess?

Steve
Huw - 08 Dec 2006 18:34 GMT
>>>I am thinking of buying a larger caravan which will necessitate a
>>> larger car and I have been thinking of the new versions of the L200 or
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> Steve

It is what I have been told by friends and customers who own and run them. I
need to have this information because I am in the market, or I will be soon.
They run these things as commercial vehicles and generally travel reasonably
short distances on small country roads. Most use them to tow and they tow up
to and sometimes beyond the manufacturers towing limit. The Mitsu is too
high geared to start off up even a modest slope when towing. Many Navara's
have had their clutches replaced already at less than 10,000 miles despite
having a six speed gearbox with a low first gear [in high range].
My current LR diesel has averaged around 15mpg, which is a reflection of the
type of use rather than potential.

Just yesterday afternoon I was rung by a LR dealer who informed me that the
new Defender price list is now available and that the vehicles are available
to order for March delivery.
I have almost ruled the Navara out because it is expensive and apparently
eats clutches. Some versions I have seen have no internal or external
lashing points.
The Mitsu is ruled out both on towing capacity, styling and
loadbed volume grounds. My favourite is a king cab Ford or, if I can justify
it, another hi-cap defender 110. Unfortunately there is no longer a third
seat option in the LR pick-up and anyhow the Ford is a much nicer place to
be at. Again there are drawbacks but I am in no hurry to choose just yet.

Huw
Steve - 08 Dec 2006 21:04 GMT
> It is what I have been told by friends and customers who own and run them.
> I
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> seat option in the LR pick-up and anyhow the Ford is a much nicer place to
> be at. Again there are drawbacks but I am in no hurry to choose just yet.

Well, as I have said in the other post below my fuel consumption aint that
bad. Like you say, its all down to how it is driven.

The Aventura has the C-channel load system which is a fancy tie down system
and has the potential to work well, this may be an option on lower models?

I do beleive that the clutch problem (and rear axel problems) was mainly
affecting earlier production runs. I have had neither of these issues with
mine (22k on clock now, 06 plate).

Have a look at www.nissan-navara.net
Steve - 07 Dec 2006 19:05 GMT
>I am thinking of buying a larger caravan which will necessitate a
> larger car and I have been thinking of the new versions of the L200 or
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>
> Frank

Have a look at www.nissan-navara.net

I drive a company Nissan Navara Aventura (the top spec one).

Its not just to get out of company car tax, I am a field engineer that
visits remote sites on hill tops and so require the extra traction and
ground clearance as well as equipment carrying capacity. That was for any of
the greens reading this post by the way!!

Any hoo......

Fuel computer says anything from 33mpg to 36mpg, tank to tank depending on
how its driven. If I work it out manually (by brimming) I get between 29 and
33.5mpg. I think the official figure for the car is 33.2 or similar.

Consumption will obviously vary with the following factors:
Load, heavy right foot, use of a canopy or cover for the load bed (makes for
better mpg even though adds weight).

I do believe that the Mitsubishi, like any from that stable can be expensive
to service but dont take my word for it, ask a dealer (not the salesman,
they will say its cheap, ring the service counter).

I have driven in the last couple of years a Isuzu TF double cab (import-top
spec), Hilux DC (bottom spec), X-trail, Navara D22 (old shape-outlaw--top
spec) and now the Navara D40. The D40 does seem lower to the ground but
boasts a 234mm clearance. Drives quite well, no where near as much bounce as
in older navara's and other competition.

Make sure you test drive both models, (I havnt unfortunatly, although I may
do one day when Im bored) but make sure you do. I am biased towards the
navara obviously but I just dont like the look of the L200 now (old one I
did). It seems much smaller than the navara with not as much interior space
whereas the navara is huge inside!

Steve (Tomo)
Mr E - 17 Dec 2006 15:29 GMT
>>I am thinking of buying a larger caravan which will necessitate a
>> larger car and I have been thinking of the new versions of the L200 or
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>
> Steve (Tomo)

I drive an Isuzu Rodeo, 54 plate, with the Prodrive pack. I get between 27
and 33 mpg solo, and can get as low as 20 when towing a twin axle across
France at 80mph. It is much bigger inside than my previous (old model) L200.
Mine is a working vehicle so runs around with the bed full of plastic crates
of tools and parts, fuel consumption was better when running empty. I have a
roller top on mine, rather than a 'truckman' type top.

The service intervals are 12/12, and other than a huge oil capacity, meaning
there is a large oil bill for servicing, the servicing has been very
reasonable for the two I have had done so far.

I have two sets of tyres so wear is not an issue yet and other than
accessories, it has cost me nothing other than the servicing. It had an ABS
sensor fail, but it is used off road, although I don't know wshether that
was a contributing factor.

Cheers

D
Steve - 17 Dec 2006 16:37 GMT
> I drive an Isuzu Rodeo, 54 plate, with the Prodrive pack. I get between 27
> and 33 mpg solo, and can get as low as 20 when towing a twin axle across
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>
> Cheers

I have to say that I did love the TF pickup I had. I 'think' it was an
import and so had a more powerful engine than the UK ones, which I think
were only something like 100hp if that. It shifted along really well anyway,
and seemed to out-gun other TF's on inclines etc. Seemed to do quite well on
the corners but was a pig to stop once the brakes locked in the wet (as my
tale of hiting a bus up the arse end will account, lol).

Before the company gave me the Navara I was going to go to them and maybe
ask for a rodeo as they look nice and were one of the first "car like"
pickups. Cheaper than the competition too, although quite possibly been
overtaken on the luxury stakes now if not the value for money stakes.

Steve
 
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