No, cos that requires some brains and logic reasoning.

You seem not to have any cos your just jumping on the green bandwagon rather
than making your own decisions and opinions.

Like the rest of them, you are just a sheep. Follow the rest of them. Bah

Steve

If you don't need to drive, you don't need a car.
Nobody needs to drive. How far shall we take this?
Walked far lately? How essential are your legs.

I don't see many, in fact I have never seen a single car tow the loads I
tow. Many of those pick-ups do and most do so illegally due to exceeding
their usual 2 to 2.75 ton maximum. Most of my vehicles tow up to their limit
which for three of them, including the new Ford and Audi, is three tons or
more.
If you see me without a trailer, fine. Might I suggest you find something
useful to occupy your mind. Think positive thoughts rather than being a
grumpy whinger, you'll find life far more rewarding.
In other words, 'mind your sodding business'.

Huw

"Marvin" <snip> towing a trailer.

Ignore him, like most environMENTALalists he only see's what he wants to
see!

Let's be honest here. the majority of 4x4 are never used off road and
most never even tow anything - even those with a towhitch attached.

However, there are other issues involved.

A 4x4 uses more fuel to drive. It is therefore potentially a bigger
polluter.

It uses bigger tyres (consumables) and depending upon tyre choice can
have higher tyre wear, (same applies to any car) so is potentially a
bigger polluter.

It uses more raw materials in construction, and therefore its
construction produces more pollutants - hoever, that is only because
of the move of the 4x4 away from being a workhorse to a fashion
accessory. Remove the fashion accessory element and things change
completely.

So, the positives. Most 4x4 vehicles are built to take far harder
knocks than conventional cars - I'm guessing that we can exclude the
Freelander and Honda CR-V etc from that statement. But Land Rovers
(Defenders in particular), Jeeps, Daihatsus Shoguns, Troopers etc
designed for a working life off the road, have, in the UK vastly
longer life expectancies than a conventional car of any shape size or
form. Thus reducing the 4x4 pollution impact in the long term. Its
lifetime costs become lower.

The need for fancy trim (oil consuming and Dioxide producing in
production and disposal, is a fashion trend, so take away the fashion
cache and perhaps we will see a return to more workmanlike vehicles
with less gadgets and fancy trim.

OTOH, the gadgets such as traction control and ABS, and CV
transmissions mean that a 4x4, properly driven off road will cause
less damage that a basic early Land Rover or Jeep without those
gadgets.

I used to drive 40,000 miles per year in a 1.8 Peugeot. On the longer
drives it was no problem - returning about 44pmg. In town that would
drop to about 30mpg. Whilst when towing it would return as little as
20mpg.

I now drive about 8,000 miles per annum in a 2.5CRD Jeep. My fuel
consumption, in town is about 28mpg, on longer runs about 31mpg, and
when towing an amazing 29.9mpg (yes, that's accurate).

Since the percentage of time spent towing is now far higher the fuel
consumption picture is very different from my previous situation. Had
I retained the Pegeot I would actually be using more fuel  with the
1.8 than I am with the 2.5CRD Jeep.

More than that, the Jeep is never laboured, and it is far more stable
when towing, it has the torque and power to avoid awkward situations -
it is a far safer vehicle for towing than a car on its limit.

I can see more ahead of me, so can take avoiding action before the guy
in front. So short of someone making a suicidal dash in front of me
the issue of pedestrian impact is low on my priority.

It happens that my other vehicle, for I own two, has a production
imprint on the environment that diminishes by the year to the extent
that its lifetime impact is now down solely to the fuel , its tyres,
and its oil. Since it is now an elderly 50 plus years old it is the
equivalent of an automotive Chelsea Pensioner, and a set of tyres will
last way beyond their expiry date, and a tank of fuel will last a
couple of years :-)

I will confess that should it ever hit anything at much more than
alking pace there would be death and destruction all around as the
only safety feature built into the vehicle was the ability to jump out
of it before impact :-)

So, please, someone take the fashion cache out of 4x4 and let us
return to thedays when I could drive just about anyhere - on or off
road without anyone so much as raising an eyebrow, ehen even Ramblers
would exchange the time of day and a pleasantry with this oddball chap
out in the middle of nowhere enjoying the countryside ina different
way.

Ewan Scott

Why should anyone believe the empty-headed shite you write? You're a
mindless troll.