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Car Forum / UK Car Forums / 4x4 Cars (UK group) / January 2007

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Don't laugh. Looking shortly for my first 4x4.

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Elder - 01 Jan 2007 11:54 GMT
Mainly for general driving/Commuting, so DIY stuff lugging, some tip
runs and very occasionally taking mountain bike to far flung places, or
even learnign a little off road riding.

I'm considering a Ssangyong/Daewoo Korando.
My brother had a Musso and liked it, but needed a crew cab pickup
because he is a builder and the missus didn't appreciate sawdust and
spilled diesel in the kiddy seats.

What does anyone reckon. A couple of people may have seen me post this
to another car group where I frequent more often, so I already know your
own opinions. And they were honest, based on other 4x4 ownership and
testing a Ssangyong.

I know with the Korando Diesel there is a trade off, either Ssangyong,
no turbo or traction control and a very very low used price, or with the
Daewoo badged models you get traction control, a turbo diesel lump and
better trim, but higher used price and still depreciating.

I'm not looking for luxury, just a roomy solid diesel truck with a good
club base (found that out) and something that isn't the usual fashion
badge car.

I have looked a Bighorns and Pajeros and Rangies.
And while they are all decent motors, they would need to be a lot older
to be in the same price bracket as a £2k Korando and so be just as
unreliable in the long run.

I'll probably be looking in the next couple of months, once I know I
have the long commute to look forward to.
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Huw - 01 Jan 2007 13:01 GMT
Mainly for general driving/Commuting, so DIY stuff lugging, some tip
runs and very occasionally taking mountain bike to far flung places, or
even learnign a little off road riding.

>I'm considering a Ssangyong/Daewoo Korando.

If your mileage is likely to be high and your budget can extend to one,
perhaps a crossover would pay for itself with reduced fuel consumption and
running costs over a period of time.
I would look at a new Nissan Qashkai or an older Audi Allroad or any quattro
like an A4.

On the other hand there is a reason that those old Sangyongs are worth less
than an old Discovery for instance. Anyhow, old Discovery's are ten a penny
out there.

Huw
Elder - 01 Jan 2007 13:24 GMT
>If your mileage is likely to be high and your budget can extend to one,
>perhaps a crossover would pay for itself with reduced fuel consumption and
>running costs over a period of time.
>I would look at a new Nissan Qashkai or an older Audi Allroad or any quattro
>like an A4.

I might like an older Audi allroad, or an A6, but I've found that golf 4
based cars don't suit me. For longer drives the seats become very
uncomfortable and I feel like my spine gets twisted in about 3 different
directions. And that is on the softer sprung Octavia. I can't imagine
how the hard springs of an Audi on the same layout would torture me.
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Elder - 01 Jan 2007 13:26 GMT
>On the other hand there is a reason that those old Sangyongs are worth less
>than an old Discovery for instance. Anyhow, old Discovery's are ten a penny
>out there.

I agree about the old Discos being fairly common, but I've heard they
are less than reliable themselves. What is your experience of Ssanyongs?
I know they appear to be either nightmares or dream runners with nothing
in between.
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Huw - 01 Jan 2007 13:38 GMT
>>On the other hand there is a reason that those old Sangyongs are worth
>>less
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> I know they appear to be either nightmares or dream runners with nothing
> in between.

My experience is that I once considered one and dismissed it out of hand.
There are very few about which means that spares could be problematic to get
hold of  and expensive if new. The Disco is not perfect but it is a known
quantity everywhere and spares are cheapish and available.
I can't understand, if your Pajero is as good as you claim, why you would
consider changing it for an unknown quantity that is inevitable with an
older used vehicle at the price you want, unless you wish to release £3k of
capital. You will not manage this, in my opinion, and land yourself a
worthwhile car at the end of it. OTOH you could get £1500 for the Suzuki
perhaps, but I wouldn't hold my breath as it could be a long while before a
buyer shows up. Try selling on ebay or through exchange and mart.

Huw
Elder - 02 Jan 2007 10:17 GMT
>My experience is that I once considered one and dismissed it out of hand.
>There are very few about which means that spares could be problematic to get
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>perhaps, but I wouldn't hold my breath as it could be a long while before a
>buyer shows up. Try selling on ebay or through exchange and mart.

I think you are mixing me up with a different thread.
I don't have a Pajero and Vitara.
I would be quite happy with a Pajero for the road, but couldn't afford
something "newish" as a starting point.

I currently have a Skoda Octavia 2.0 GLX. Not a bad car for short
journeys, and I can see why they are popular as Taxis, but not good on
the motorway above 60 where they get very wallowy and drifty and light
steering without the benefits of greater comfort that softer suspension
normally gives.
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Huw - 02 Jan 2007 23:50 GMT
>> My experience is that I once considered one and dismissed it out of
>> hand. There are very few about which means that spares could be
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>>
> I think you are mixing me up with a different thread.

Ah! Yes, sorry. Tired. Tired tonight again.

Huw
Elder - 03 Jan 2007 12:52 GMT
>>> My experience is that I once considered one and dismissed it out of
>>> hand. There are very few about which means that spares could be
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>
>Huw

No worries.
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