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Car Forum / UK Car Forums / 4x4 Cars (UK group) / January 2007

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smites - 05 Jan 2007 09:30 GMT
ive had my misubishi pajero for 4 years now and have had more than me
moneys worth out of it in the time ive had it the only things to go
wrong have been simple stuff like a new alternator new front shocks
brake pads and discs touch wood nothing major has gone wrong so far and
it has covered 106000 miles i  have had it from 65000 so have done
approximately 41000 to date. what i would like to know is when the
engine finaly dies on me how much could i expect to pay for a
reconditoned engine to be fitted and how does one know that the
reconditoned engine has got the correct milage on it as stated ? i
would also like to now can the old milage be turned back to the milage
of the reconditoned engine that is being fitted and is this legal or
ilegal to do?   for any one out there who is interested in buying a
pajero i cant fault them out of all the motors ive had this has been
the best if you are looking for a very reliable robust workhorse
consider going for this.  from smites.
TMC - 05 Jan 2007 10:05 GMT
> ive had my misubishi pajero for 4 years now and have had more than me
> moneys worth out of it in the time ive had it the only things to go
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> the best if you are looking for a very reliable robust workhorse
> consider going for this.  from smites.

Hi

Labour costs depends on who does the work, you could always ask at your
local garage.

Old engine out remove all ancillary components have engine collected
Receive recon fit all ancillary components fit engine
Looks like best part of a week's work

There is no mileage stated on reconditioned engines and in many cases the
engine will be your old block with the cylinders rebored oversize with
oversize pistons/rings and your crank reground with new bearings

A brand new crank from Mitsubishi was costing approaching 1000gbp 10 years
ago ( I had one as a warranty replacement due to damage to the front where
the timing pulley had moved)

The mileage reading is for your vehicle not its engine. It is illegal to
claim that a changed mileage is genuine but if a car has the
speedometer/odometer replaced the mileage is zero if it is a new one and
whatever was on it if it was second hand and it is clearly not illegal to
replace one!!!

Tony
Rallycinq - 05 Jan 2007 14:42 GMT
> ive had my misubishi pajero for 4 years now and have had more than me
> moneys worth out of it in the time ive had it the only things to go
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> the best if you are looking for a very reliable robust workhorse
> consider going for this.  from smites.

Changing the mileage on a vehicle, for what ever technical reason, is not
illegal.

Selling a car with an altered mileage, and not decalring that it is altered,
is illegal.

A reconditioned engine is regarded as a zero miles engine if it has been
properly overhauled.
The difficulty is ensuring that the reconditioner does more than give the
block a coat of paint.

A cheap reconditioned engine is not reconditioned.

The last similar vehicle that I was involved in, an Isuzu Trooper, that got
a new engine, cost in excess of 12500 GBP. At that time it was about what
the vehicle was worth.

You've had your car for 4 years and it wasn't new, so I would suggest that
fitting a new, or properly reconditioned engine, is going to be more than
the whole vehicle is worth, and it won't make the vehicle worth that amount
more.

Cheers

D
Huw - 07 Jan 2007 13:42 GMT
"Rallycinq" <rallycinqatntlworld.com> wrote > A cheap reconditioned engine
is not reconditioned.

> The last similar vehicle that I was involved in, an Isuzu Trooper, that
> got a new engine, cost in excess of 12500 GBP. At that time it was about
> what the vehicle was worth.

The extent of that rip-off is illustrated by the fact that you can get a
complete, brand new, not reconditioned, Cummins B3.9 turbo intercooled unit
delivered with a years factory warranty for under £3000 plus VAT.

> You've had your car for 4 years and it wasn't new, so I would suggest that
> fitting a new, or properly reconditioned engine, is going to be more than
> the whole vehicle is worth, and it won't make the vehicle worth that
> amount more.

I agree. However a reconditioned engine could be seen as another running
cost and if the milage and expected further service life justified its
installation then it could be worth it, especially if commercially used with
the VAT reclaimable and the expense fully offset against taxable profit.
A private individual would find it difficult to justify on a vehicle around
10 years old. Plenty of half decent engines available at scrap yards.

In any case, why does the OP expect the engine, which has only done 100,000
miles, to die anytime soon?

Huw
 
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