> Go away you muppet.
>> Go away you muppet.
>
>I don't have a hand up my Bottom!
>
>If you have issues then I suggest you realise that all this Green Spin is
>just softening us up for the inevitable!
I think you will be pleasantly surprised to find that the solution is
actually just around the corner. The automotive industry is perhaps
the single most powerful sector in the industrial world. Even some of
the smaller firms are bigger than some smaller nations. When you get
up with the big boys they are real players on the global economic and
political scene and they are not just going to lie down.
Whilst the obvious answer to green personal transport is microcars,
and electric ones at that. (lets exclude bicycles as a real
alternative). No-one really ants to buy them - and the vehicle
manufacturers are building cars that have bigger and bigger wheels and
tyres, to accommodate bigger and bogger brake systems, needed for more
and more powerful engines, required by larger and safer cars, demanded
by the consumers around the world.
One solution to this, is for people to eat much less and so not have
the requirement for bigger cars. ( and if anyone thinks I'm joking I
have the statistics on my desk).
We will see real changes in lifestyle, perhaps. Personally my own
environmental master environmental criminals are the fashiopn trade,
the fashion groupies and such who dictate that the dining room table
we have with a flat top and four legs that served us well for a
millenia and more, needs updating on a five yearly basis. That we need
to constantly redesign and redecorate our homes, gardens, cars and
more just to keep in line with fashion. Come the revolution brother...
line them up against the wall. :-)
Ewan Scott
Ian Rawlings - 13 Jan 2007 18:41 GMT
> One solution to this, is for people to eat much less and so not have
> the requirement for bigger cars. ( and if anyone thinks I'm joking I
> have the statistics on my desk).
Nah, best thing is that anyone who has a desk job should work from
home where feasible, not all of them can of course, but people like
call centre workers can work from home and so many other people. It
works well (I do it) although you do have to watch out that you don't
go stir crazy!

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Ewan Scott - 15 Jan 2007 12:09 GMT
>> One solution to this, is for people to eat much less and so not have
>> the requirement for bigger cars. ( and if anyone thinks I'm joking I
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>works well (I do it) although you do have to watch out that you don't
>go stir crazy!
agreed. I have cut my motoring from about 45-50,000 miles per annum to
around 8,000 by working from home.
Ewan Scott
>I don't have a hand up my Bottom!
It ust really piss you off that.
But if that was a request for volunteers, count me out.

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lerkio - 14 Jan 2007 15:08 GMT
>> I don't have a hand up my Bottom!
>>
> It ust really piss you off that.
> But if that was a request for volunteers, count me out.
I'm not really too worried about that one way or another.
My worry is that the 4*4 I'll be buying when I retire back to Wales will
become VERY highly taxed and the value drop like a stone - the value maybe
not such a great worry as I'll be driving it for 10years maybe unless
ofcourse fuel/tax will become so prohibitive that I have to sell it!