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Trainer of those who train the trainers - 05 Mar 2007 10:46 GMT ISBN 978 1 903341 39 1 "Poems with prefaces for Padstow, Petersfield, Poland and Pewsham"
Former contributor to these newsgroups, G.A.Evans, is pleased to announce the availability of his first anthology of poetry.
Poems of particular interest to the engineering fraternity include "To the OC71 transistor", "Model Engineering Exhibition", 3 poems about the old railways of Padstow, Bath and Calne, a tribute to Nev Boulton the Hon Sec of the West Wilts Society of Model Engineers, and 6 poems about Land Rover clubs.
As the blurb says,...
"Hailed as 'The New Betjeman', G.A.Evans has come up with proper poems with rhythm and rhyme about bells, railways, architecture, the City of Bath and many other topics.
If you feel that you don't understand the Free Verse that plagued the twentieth century poets, then this is the book for you".
143 pp £12-50 post paid.
Available from The Petersfield Bookshop, the One Tree Bookshop in Petersfield, from W.H.Smith in Chippenham or from the author (No plastic, sorry) at
13 Hardens Close Chippenham, Wiltshire England SN15 3AA
John Stevenson - 05 Mar 2007 11:14 GMT >ISBN 978 1 903341 39 1 >"Poems with prefaces for Padstow, Petersfield, Poland and Pewsham" [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >England >SN15 3AA I'm awaiting the feedback on this one with pleasure. I dare say we'll get more value than £12.50 <g> -- Regards,
John Stevenson Nottingham, England.
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Peter Fox - 05 Mar 2007 14:24 GMT Following on from John Stevenson's message. . .
>I'm awaiting the feedback on this one with pleasure. >I dare say we'll get more value than £12.50 <g> This'll wipe that <g> off your face
=================== A Wiltshire lad [1] =================== The gas was on in the Institute, The light was on in the shack, A man was running a terrible cold, A lass was laid on her back, When G A Evans the Chippenham man, G A Evans from Chippenham, Came writing about the olden time When chips were made of germanium Writing about - Writing about - Writing about the Mullard Transistor OC Seventy-One while showing he's no dullard.
The sun shone low on the railway line Aroundabouts Bath and Colne And sat at the upstairs window Was 'GA' all alone When he saw the ghost of Betjeman, Sir John with his pen full of ink Come tripping along in a pin stripe suit For a Saturday evening drink. Sipping a drink - Sipping a drink - At the bar of the old Bull and Bush Sipping some more he fell on the floor and faded away in a rush.
There wasn't a man in Winterbourne That didn't think it a fake, And over the valley in Trowbridge, And round by Savernake, When G A Evans the Chippenham man, G A Evans from Chippenham, Made him his heir by buying him drinks And how quickly he'd been sipping 'em. Made him his heir - Made him his heir - To write technical information Paying a call at WH Smith to pick up his publication.
PS There's no intention to disparage G A Evans - That's just how the words worked out.
[1] ISTR There is a poem a bit like this called "A Shropshire lad" by some Poet Laureate or other.
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Ian Johnston - 05 Mar 2007 15:08 GMT > A Wiltshire lad Shall we have a G. A. Evans poetry competition to take our minds of Greyrigg?
Gerald A ("Anthony") Evans Sat down at his desk and said "Heavens" Iambic pentameter's Met my parameters No need to count up to sevens.
Ian
Peter Fairbrother - 05 Mar 2007 16:06 GMT > Shall we have a G. A. Evans poetry competition to take our minds of > Greyrigg? > > Gerald A ("Anthony") Evans I thought his cognomen was "Airy"?
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Ian Johnston - 05 Mar 2007 16:38 GMT >> Shall we have a G. A. Evans poetry competition to take our minds of >> Greyrigg? >> >> Gerald A ("Anthony") Evans > > I thought his cognomen was "Airy"? Not the bloke with the ham radio obsession?
I just made up the "Anthony" to scan - I thought the Great Man would approve.
Ian
Jane Sullivan - 05 Mar 2007 18:35 GMT >>> Shall we have a G. A. Evans poetry competition to take our minds of >>> Greyrigg? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >I just made up the "Anthony" to scan Why? You didn't bother with making the last line scan.
>- I thought the Great Man would >approve. > >Ian
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Ian Johnston - 05 Mar 2007 23:36 GMT > In message <552vctF22u890U22@mid.individual.net>, Ian Johnston
>>I just made up the "Anthony" to scan > > Why? You didn't bother with making the last line scan. Oh yes I did:
The first stress in the last line is on the "no":
Gerald A ("Anthony") Evans Tum-ti-ti Tum-ti-ti Tum-ti
Sat down at his desk and said "Heavens" ti Tum-ti-ti Tum-ti-ti Tum-ti
Iambic pentameter's ti Tum-ti-ti Tum-ti-ti
Met my parameters Tum-ti-ti Tum-ti-ti
No need to count up to sevens. Tum-ti-ti Tum-ti-ti Tum-ti.
Ian
Jane Sullivan - 06 Mar 2007 09:45 GMT >> In message <552vctF22u890U22@mid.individual.net>, Ian Johnston > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >Ian Since you pointed this out, the "poem" should scan thusly:
ti Tum-ti-ti Tum-ti-ti Tum-ti ti Tum-ti-ti Tum-ti-ti Tum-ti ti Tum-ti-ti Tum-ti ti Tum-ti-ti Tum-ti ti Tum-ti-ti Tum-ti-ti Tum-ti
with feminine rhymes (scheme aabba) on each line.
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Ian Johnston - 06 Mar 2007 12:07 GMT >>No need to count up to sevens. >>Tum-ti-ti Tum-ti-ti Tum-ti.
> Since you pointed this out, the "poem" should scan thusly: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > ti Tum-ti-ti Tum-ti > ti Tum-ti-ti Tum-ti-ti Tum-ti Which it does, as long as you remember that the introductory ti on each line is optional. I expect you read the last line as "no NEED to count UP to sevENS", which would be a common fault in inexperienced readers. Don't worry about it.
Ian
Stephen Howard - 06 Mar 2007 09:09 GMT >> A Wiltshire lad > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Met my parameters >No need to count up to sevens. An Airy Bean poetry competition? In which case it must be time to reprise the almost legendary saga of the Bean and the hacksaw kit, first published some two years ago. In honour of this auspicious occasion I have added a new third verse....
Not long ago in this fair, noble land stood Airy of Bean with a saw in his hand. Trying quite vainly to cut yonder steel that for e'en a child t'would've been no big deal. "Fie and a pox, why this job is a chore" cried Airy of Bean, his arms greatly sore, "I've nay half the strength of a big hairy nutter, I'm off aye to buy me a magical cutter".
Henceforth to Donnington Airy did roam o'er hill, dale and tussock - past Hobbit and Gnome, to find the much fabled Black Man of Gates with wholesomely goods at much cheaply rates. "Good trader pray help" quoth Airy of Bean "my needs are much grave for a certain machine". "I have one just here sir, a stout little hacksaw, for groats I'll deliver it right to your front door".
He reached in his tunic, all dark damp and sweaty "This'll cost me a lot, and I'm no John Paul Getty". Groat after groat did he count out with pain watching his finances shrivel and wane. At last he had paid, save one groat from the lot, and Black Man of Gates said "One more, for the pot?" But Airy of Bean had turned tail back to Chippenham, "They can get stuffed if they think that I'm tipping 'em".
Airy of Bean, his knees all a quiver did unpack his goods, with nay further dither. And then didst he shriek a fair terrible cry, through layers of sacking the beast did he spy. "What low deed is this, this base hunk of metal - what ignorant knave has buggered my fettle? I'll rant and I'll rave, I'll turn the air blue, that Black Man of Gates - why I might even sue!"
But then did a shiver strike Airy of Bean, "That Black Man of Gates is quite hefty and mean. I'll trouble him not, t'would send him in rages, I'll log on the nette and pester the Sages". So scribble he did, to groups engineering "Lis't to me now of my tales not endearing". And so they did listen, and gave this reply "Send the thing back, he`ll replace by and by".
"He won't" wailed the Bean, his ague much indignant. "He will" cried the Sages "tis written in pigment". "Weighs nigh on eight pounds" exclaimed Bean "that's quite scary!". The Sages replied "Thou art just a big fairy". So Airy of Bean, his comments rebuffed, considered his plight, feeling nay not that chuffed. "I know what I'll do, I'll show them who'll win - I'll toss the whole lot in my wastepaper bin!"
Here endeth the tale of Airy of Bean but something's not right, or so it would seem. Why shell out good groats for an item that's faulty then chuck it away, in a mood foul and haughty? Can it be true, was it really that bad, is Airy of Bean aye really that sad? No-one will know, for it lies in a bucket.... was it just broken...or did he just f.ck it.
Regards,
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jontom_1uk@hotmail.com - 06 Mar 2007 14:54 GMT > >> A Wiltshire lad > [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] > Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorationswww.shwoodwind.co.uk > Emails to: showard{whoisat}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk Although I was mostly a lurker when Airy was in his pomp I can't understand how I missed this superb saga, most entertaining. Have I also missed the sequel re his run in with the evil men of the Sheriff of Chippenham, or is that a pleasure to come? Hope so this was really good. Now a collection like this really would be worth £12.50.
Regards
Keith
G.A.Evans G4SDW - 07 Mar 2007 15:07 GMT Setting aside your unnecessary indulgence in childish turns of phrase, the matter is _STILL_ sub judice despite today being the 2nd anniversary.
These matters are covered in my second publication, "No Justice In Wiltshire!" (Subtitled, "Should known sexual perverts be allowed to remain in teaching posts?") which is in an advanced stage of preparation.
On Mar 6, 9:09 am, Stephen Howard <seesig...@email.uk> wrote:
> Although I was mostly a lurker when Airy was in his pomp I can't > understand how I missed this superb saga, most entertaining. Have I > also missed the sequel re his run in with the evil men of the Sheriff > of Chippenham, or is that a pleasure to come? Hope so this was really > good. Now a collection like this really would be worth £12.50. David Littlewood - 05 Mar 2007 23:16 GMT >Following on from John Stevenson's message. . . > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] >[1] ISTR There is a poem a bit like this called "A Shropshire lad" by >some Poet Laureate or other. Excellent parody, Peter.
I can't tell whether you knew this and are just joshing us, but if not (and for the benefit of anyone else who may be interested) it is based on a poem "A Shropshire Lad" by John Betjeman, which was itself a parody of "A Shropshire Lad" by A E Housman. Betjeman's poem was based on Capt Matthew Webb, the first man to swim the English Channel, and himself a Black Country boy.
The performance by Betjeman of his own poems set to music, including this one, on "Banana Blush" (B&C Records CAS 1086, issued 1974) is well worth listening to if you get a chance.
My own favourite poem/song involving engineering is "The Engineers Story", an infamous rugby song much too indelicate for polite society - which mean it would be OK here, but I can't be arsed to type it out....
David
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Dave Croft - 05 Mar 2007 23:28 GMT > In article <+kvaKIAGgC7FFwSh@eminent.demon.co.uk>, Peter Fox <peterfox@eminent.demon.co.uk.not.this.bit.no.html> writes Very Big Snip
> Excellent parody, Peter. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > society - which mean it would be OK here, but I can't be arsed to type it out.... > David Would the words below cover the subject? http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hityke/leos5a.htm#engineers
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David Littlewood - 06 Mar 2007 00:11 GMT >Very Big Snip > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >Would the words below cover the subject? >http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hityke/leos5a.htm#engineers Yep; even more verses than I remembered!
David
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Jane Sullivan - 06 Mar 2007 09:49 GMT >>Very Big Snip >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >Yep; even more verses than I remembered! but still wrong!
The verse shown as
In and out went the prick of steel, Up and out went the level of steam.
should be
In and out went the prick of steel Round and round went the bl**dy great wheel
Up and up went the level of steam Down and down went the level of cream
>David
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David Littlewood - 06 Mar 2007 13:01 GMT >>>Very Big Snip >>> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >Up and up went the level of steam >Down and down went the level of cream Yes, you're right; I don't think I read it all through. Always the problem when you think you know something!
David
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John Stevenson - 05 Mar 2007 23:31 GMT >My own favourite poem/song involving engineering is "The Engineers >Story", an infamous rugby song much too indelicate for polite society - >which mean it would be OK here, but I can't be arsed to type it out.... > >David DON'T TEASE.............................
. -- Regards,
John Stevenson Nottingham, England.
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Andrew Robert Breen - 06 Mar 2007 09:58 GMT >>My own favourite poem/song involving engineering is "The Engineers >>Story", an infamous rugby song much too indelicate for polite society - [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >DON'T TEASE............................. Linked off the good Ms. Hotdesking's site. Danger: may offend, over 18s only etc..
http://www.armadillo.net/llewtrah/engineers-song.html
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David Littlewood - 06 Mar 2007 13:06 GMT >>>My own favourite poem/song involving engineering is "The Engineers >>>Story", an infamous rugby song much too indelicate for polite society - [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >http://www.armadillo.net/llewtrah/engineers-song.html Even more amusing variations.... Thanks for the link.
David
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sarah.hartwell@blueyonder.co.uk - 15 Mar 2007 10:50 GMT > In article <su9pu2p8uhqeqtfht1dc4k9c9qc9gdd...@4ax.com>, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > -- Some clean engineering verse here: http://www.messybeast.com/dragonqueen/dragonqueen-index.htm#parodies
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Andrew Robert Breen - 15 Mar 2007 11:28 GMT >> Linked off the good Ms. Hotdesking's site. Danger: may offend, over 18s >> only etc.. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> -- >Some clean engineering verse here: http://www.messybeast.com/dragonqueen/dragonqueen-index.htm#parodies Is that clean as in "clean room" or clean as in "wiped down with an oily rag", or is it indelicate to ask?
I have a picture of another Great Closed Maritime Museum for you, BTW (Porthmadoc, March 2007..)
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sarah.hartwell@blueyonder.co.uk - 15 Mar 2007 13:43 GMT > In article <1173952243.416917.194...@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Is that clean as in "clean room" or clean as in "wiped down with an oily > rag", or is it indelicate to ask? Clean as in "safe to view from work".
> I have a picture of another Great Closed Maritime Museum for you, BTW > (Porthmadoc, March 2007..) I've been to some open non-naval museums lately!
Andrew Robert Breen - 15 Mar 2007 14:08 GMT >> >> -- >> >Some clean engineering verse here: http://www.messybeast.com/dragonqueen/dragonqueen-index.htm#parodies [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >Clean as in "safe to view from work".
:)
>> I have a picture of another Great Closed Maritime Museum for you, BTW >> (Porthmadoc, March 2007..) >> >I've been to some open non-naval museums lately! Coo. Anything especially good?
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Dave Croft - 15 Mar 2007 15:33 GMT >>> >> -- >>> >Some clean engineering verse here: http://www.messybeast.com/dragonqueen/dragonqueen-index.htm#parodies [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Coo. Anything especially good? > Andy Breen ~ Not speaking on behalf of the University of Wales, Aberystwyth I am probably preaching to the converted but my favourite closed museum has never been open 8^) See http://www.localhistory.scit.wlv.ac.uk/Museum/museum.htm I have great admiration for whoever built this virtual site. Some of the engine records are the best anywhere. Just wander around and enjoy yourselves.
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sarah.hartwell@blueyonder.co.uk - 15 Mar 2007 19:54 GMT > In article <1173962599.213553.213...@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, > > <sarah.hartw...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > >> >> --
> >> I have a picture of another Great Closed Maritime Museum for you, BTW > >> (Porthmadoc, March 2007..) > > >I've been to some open non-naval museums lately! > > Coo. Anything especially good? Museum of Childhood (short walk from Bethnal Green tube) is great fun. B/f is a Miffy fan and they had a Miffy's 50th birthday display. We trotted about like loons pointing out toys we remembered and toys we'd wanted. Upstaris is about childhood over the last couple of hundred years.
Aaron B - 15 Mar 2007 20:12 GMT >> In article <1173962599.213553.213...@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > and toys we'd wanted. Upstaris is about childhood over the last > couple of hundred years. I went to the one in Edinburgh once. I didn't like it but girls (of all ages) visiting did. I was lucky to find a chair and watch the world go by.
Sam Wilson - 16 Mar 2007 13:17 GMT > > Museum of Childhood (short walk from Bethnal Green tube) ... > > > I went to the one in Edinburgh once. I didn't like it but girls (of all > ages) visiting did. I was lucky to find a chair and watch the world go by. I was astonished and bemused at the Edinburgh Museum of Childhood to find toys that I had had which had since become museum pieces. Weird.
Sam
Roland Perry - 16 Mar 2007 15:27 GMT >I was astonished and bemused at the Edinburgh Museum of Childhood to >find toys that I had had which had since become museum pieces. Weird. That's what happens when you get old. I see appliances (both IT-related, and domestic) in museums, that I remember buying when they were new.
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Peter Fox - 06 Mar 2007 01:40 GMT Following on from David Littlewood's message. . .
>Excellent parody, Peter. Ta.
>The performance by Betjeman of his own poems set to music, including >this one, on "Banana Blush" (B&C Records CAS 1086, issued 1974) is well >worth listening to if you get a chance. Not only do I have that vinyl [1] but also the machinery to play it - although it is so memorable for it's errr.. memorability that recourse to the trusty Victrola is superfluous.
By the way. How do I know in my water that should the World suddenly need say one hundred OC71s, the folk round here could find that number without sweating. Welcome to the living museum.
[1] Disc - You know - Like a combine harvester but round, made of plastic, about dinner plate sized with a hole in the middle.
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Arthur Figgis - 06 Mar 2007 07:25 GMT > My own favourite poem/song involving engineering is "The Engineers > Story", an infamous rugby song much too indelicate for polite society - > which mean it would be OK here, but I can't be arsed to type it out.... I'm guessing it is different to "The Engineer" in AA Milne's "Now We Are Six"...?
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G.A.Evans G4SDW - 07 Mar 2007 15:00 GMT No offence taken!
I would be pleased to offer signed copies post-free (Normally £1-19p inland, £2-11p to Common Market countries, £3-70p to USA) to all those who have refrained from gratuitous childish outburst!
Send £12-50p plus name for dedication to address previously advertised
Delivery by first-class post.
> PS There's no intention to disparage G A Evans - That's just how the words > worked out. mark - 05 Mar 2007 22:56 GMT On 5 Mar, 11:14, John Stevenson <j...@stevenson-engineers.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:46:38 -0000, "Trainer of those who train the trainers" > [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > - Show quoted text - YOU ASKED FOR THIS .. :)
There was once a machinist called Stevenson who's workshop floor had never seen the sun. he'd wade through swarf one foot deep. or brush it into the corner into heap.
one day he said Ive had enough of this place and thought, this is all a bloody rat race so doors are locked,and he's off down the boozer sinks ten pints down,followed by a vodka cruiser
next day ,head thumping,its back to work driving his old truck,wishing twas a merc. says bollocks to this and puts foot down. races past his shop and back to into town.
two days later he's still on a bender. and trying to tap-off with the opposite gender. Gert comes in,and says get back to work. or it be...............................
carry it on guys...
all the best.mark
Ian Johnston - 05 Mar 2007 15:02 GMT > "Hailed as 'The New Betjeman', Hailed by whom, precisely?
> G.A.Evans > has come up with proper poems with rhythm > and rhyme about bells, railways, architecture, the City > of Bath and many other topics. Proper poems with rhythm and rhyme, eh? I do hope there is one about string backed driving gloves
> If you feel that you don't understand the Free Verse that plagued the > twentieth century poets, then this is the book for you". What's so difficult about free verse? Can you only understand things in rhyming couplets? If so, newspapers must be a real pain to read.
Ian
Prai Jei - 05 Mar 2007 21:26 GMT Trainer of those who train the trainers (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in message <esgsee$69c$2@aioe.org>:
> Poems of particular interest to the engineering > fraternity include "To the OC71 transistor" I remember the OC71 well. Still got one somewhere.
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