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Car Forum / UK Car Forums / 4x4 Cars (UK group) / May 2007

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Buying a Freelander

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somersetviking - 18 Apr 2007 08:05 GMT
I am thinking of buying a second hand Landrover Freelander can anyon
advise me on which is the best and most reliable model to buy, als
what faults should i be looking for

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Tommy - 18 Apr 2007 16:01 GMT
> I am thinking of buying a second hand Landrover Freelander can anyone
> advise me on which is the best and most reliable model to buy, also
> what faults should i be looking for?

Blown head gaskets are a common affliction for 1.8-litre petrol-engined
Freelanders. It's a well known problem and is caused by allowing the coolant
level in the very small tank to get low. Check for water in the oil. The
other engines have proved to be very reliable.

Any damage to the suspension from off-roading will expensive to repair,
while the rear differential can fail with little warning. Manual gearboxes
can also become noisy and fail. Other failures are more likely to be
electrical, especially the rear door's window, which can drop unexpectedly.

TD4 seems OK, stay away from the earlier diesel (DI?) and get the most
modern - truly BAD when they came out and got better, better compared with
earlier versions but not up to class average
If I remember they come out bottom in the reliability stakes with all the
french and italian cars.
And actually If you after 4*4 "safety" I believe they only got a 3 star in
the NCAP results
Blippie - 18 May 2007 12:40 GMT
>TD4 seems OK, stay away from the earlier diesel (DI?) and get the most
>modern - truly BAD when they came out and got better

I'm not sure that is fair.  The TD4 is an excellent engine, also used in the
BMW 3 series and Rover 75.  I agree that it is the pick of the engines.  The
earlier diesel was the Rover L-series.  It is less exciting but has a
reputation for being absolutely bomproof.

They changed at Y-reg.  If it doesn't say TD4 on the rear door, then it is
the earlier L-series.

Cheers

Blippie
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TTT - 20 Apr 2007 10:34 GMT
> I am thinking of buying a second hand Landrover Freelander

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/index.php?url=/carbycar/index.htm
Hirsty's - 20 Apr 2007 17:03 GMT
> http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/index.php?url=/carbycar/index.htm

Maybe, but how many other cars can you compare to after 8 years; most are
rust buckets or mechanically f....d
TTT - 20 Apr 2007 18:36 GMT
> Maybe, but how many other cars can you compare to after 8 years; most are
> rust buckets or mechanically f....d

Freelander owners were incurring huge bills long beofre the cars were 8
years old.

Depending what the OP wants to use it for, a Honda CR-V or petrol Nissan
X-Trail (Avoid the diesel X-trail) might be a better alternative.
Hirsty's - 21 Apr 2007 00:35 GMT
> Freelander owners were incurring huge bills long beofre the cars were 8
> years old

I was reffering to real LR such as Defender, S1 S2 S3 which seem to have a
biased reveiw in the link you show
Steve Firth - 21 Apr 2007 07:31 GMT
> > Freelander owners were incurring huge bills long beofre the cars were 8
> > years old
>
> I was reffering to real LR such as Defender, S1 S2 S3 which seem to have a
> biased reveiw in the link you show

You're talking crap, HTH.

Firstly the link does not take you to a review of Defender models, or
even the Freelander to be honest. So you *chose* to look at the Defender
link. There's no mention of S1/2/3 or Stage One V8 vehicles.

Secondly this thread was about Freelander vehicles, not the Defender.

And finally there's no bias in the review, it simply states the truth
that Defenders suffered from a number of problems. Hell it even gives
objective results such as Defender models being at the bottom of several
reviews of reliability since 1997.
Blippie - 18 May 2007 12:44 GMT
>Freelander owners were incurring huge bills long beofre the cars were 8
>years old.

We've got two and they never miss a beat.

>Depending what the OP wants to use it for, a Honda CR-V or petrol Nissan
>X-Trail (Avoid the diesel X-trail) might be a better alternative.

I've only driven a '03 plate X-Trail.  certainly a  lot cheaper to buy.  I
didn't like the flimsy controls and buttons and the engine wasn't a patch on
the TD4.  It doesn't handle as well as the permanent 4x4 Freelander and
doesn't have such a commanding seating position.

I think the boot is bigger.

Cheers

Blippie
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Tim.. - 24 Apr 2007 18:13 GMT
> I am thinking of buying a second hand Landrover Freelander can anyone
> advise me on which is the best and most reliable model to buy, also
> what faults should i be looking for?

Faults and problems? Anything you can think of pretty much!

There are much much better SUV's about than the Freelander.

If you must though- probably the earlier L series TD, but one of the last
ones- 51 plate area.

Tim..
Brassed Off - 02 May 2007 13:19 GMT
>> I am thinking of buying a second hand Landrover Freelander can anyone
>> advise me on which is the best and most reliable model to buy, also
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>
> Tim..

I have been thinking of buying a 4 to 5 year old TD4 Auto. Research has not
left me with a good feeling about a Freelander.
I was at my local independent garage who have serviced my cars for over 10
years. The owner has a Freelander so I asked him if they where as much
trouble as reported. Yes was his reply. He then went on to say the petrol is
the worst. Transfer boxes are a problem but replacing them has come down to
about £900 !  Fuel pumps on the diesel work out at about £1800.
He went on to say that if you get a good one they are good fun to drive but
he could not recommend them.
Unfortunately Japanese 4x4s don't seem to have many problems. but I don't
think Xtrails come as Diesel Auto.
Honda looks a possibility.

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Brassed Off - 02 May 2007 13:23 GMT
>>> I am thinking of buying a second hand Landrover Freelander can
>>> anyone advise me on which is the best and most reliable model to
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> one they are good fun to
> drive but he could not recommend them.

> Unfortunately Japanese 4x4s don't seem to have many problems. but I

"Unfortunately"   as in why do Freelanders seem to be crap and any Jap is
just well ...... good >

> don't think Xtrails come as Diesel Auto.
> Honda looks a possibility.

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Blippie - 18 May 2007 12:52 GMT
>I have been thinking of buying a 4 to 5 year old TD4 Auto. Research has not
>left me with a good feeling about a Freelander.
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>is the worst. Transfer boxes are a problem but replacing them has come down
>to about £900 !  Fuel pumps on the diesel work out at about £1800.

You can pick out any part for any car that is expensive to replace.

Keep it in perspective.

There are two main problems associated with the Freelander 1.  Both are well
known.

- 1.8 head gasket failure: also a feature of other vehicles with the
K-series engine.
- Early transmission problems: The IRD (transfer box) had a habit of
failing in early models.  This was usually a result of the VCU (viscous
coupling unit) failing and not being detected and replaced.  The final drive
(rear diff) ratios were also putting too much stress on the unit and the
ratios were changed early on.

Neither issue should put off the potential purchaser of a TD4.  The engine
is completely different and the transmission problems are not so widley
reported by the time the TD4 was introduced.  There are plenty of websites
that will describe how to check for transmission problems - they are easy to
detect.

Try www.landyzone.co.uk

Cheers

Blippie
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Brass Monkey - 21 May 2007 09:03 GMT
>> I have been thinking of buying a 4 to 5 year old TD4 Auto. Research
>> has not left me with a good feeling about a Freelander.
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>
> Blippie

Yes despite the bad press I still fancy a Freelander.

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Adrian - 18 May 2007 12:58 GMT
> Fuel pumps on the diesel work out at about £1800.

Find me a single common-rail diesel where that doesn't apply.
 
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