Geoff vaguely muttered something like ...

Bugger ... ah well .. ;)

I don't give a flying f.ck what *you* want. The advertising is off-topic
here. If you want to receive advertising from the spammer, subscribe to
his mailing list.

I've met him, ugly sort, rather hairy ;-)

I made my thoughts clear on this in a.f.l - however the fuckwit Firth
although happy to crosspost his comments doesn't appear to have the
will to read all of the groups he grossposts to, ergo, a fuckwitted
spammer of the lowest mentality.  And a twatish netkop by all
accounts.  Like dogshite, best avoided and ignored IMO.

I have only just started to check this newsgroup but if this is the
standard of the posting then I don't think I will bother.

I was hoping, having been a member of the AWDC for nearly 25 years, that
there might have been some sensible discussions on 4x4 vehicles but I
see I was wrong.

/me turns off the light and shuts the door...

Perhaps you are right even though I could argue that my posts are helping
people to be aware of what is available in the market to solve the problems
with their vehicle - the links get more tenuous.
What is certain is that of those who express their feelings on this NG are
not at one with your posts.
 Perhaps the group has died a necessary death in a way which will
ultimatelu lead to no posts at all so you won;t have to worry.

I feel compelled to keep arguing my point but this will onlt encourafe you
to persist with your blinkered view.
You have every right to read what you want and not read what you want to -
I therefore request that to benefit the group unless you have a problem that
I might be able to help you with ( in which case I am happy to communicate )
then you refrain from communicating with me.

David
LLAMA 4x4
  www.llama4x4.co.uk

I remember a chap trialling one in the AWDC back in the late 80s and he
did quite well in it. Ground clearance was a bit of a problem but he had
fitted bigger tyres to help.

No. But they do have cross-axle difflocks, as has my Land Cruiser (only
on the rear axle on the Amazon, unlike my previous 80 series which had
them front and rear)

Ashley

You're just buying the wrong age of Land Rover :@)

Hate to say it, but in my notsohumble opinion the 200TDI Discovery is the
best motor Land Rover ever made and I'll put it up against anything from
any of the other mainstream manufacturers.

I just like the way there's nothing on it that can't be fixed with a fairly
basic toolbox and time, the fact that it's a pretty damn comfortable car
and its road manners are pretty good (better than most of the saloons I've
ever owned) and its offroad ability is well up there with the best of them.

The combination of good road manners, excellent offroading, comfort and sod
all critical electronics (the clock and radio are the only factory fit
electronics in this thing) make it a wonderful car for me.

I've owned other 4x4s, but I still prefer the Discovery over all of them.

I started on a Ford Maverick which was fun, but had no refinement
whatsoever. Later I got an SJ410 which was fun and had negative refinement.
The Lada Niva was similar.

The TD5 Discovery I owned was a nasty piece of sh.t - too dependant on the
electronics which went wrong at the worst possible time - ABS refusing to
let you stop is a killer - quite literally. The Range Rover Classic I had
was a bit crude and a bit thirsty albeit fixable with a sledgehammer if
anything went wrong. The S3 Landie I've got just now is fun in a vaguely
masochistic way, but has no refinement whatsoever.

I've tried the Toyotas and just don't get on with them - I find the Land
Cruiser GA to be a flaming boat to drive and I've been behind enough of
them getting stuck offroad when I've just poddled on in my Disco that I
wouldn't use them for that for preference.

For my money the only other car which comes close (in my book) to the
Discovery for being a good all rounder and simple to fix is the late
80s/early 90s G-Wagen, and they are too damn expensive.

P.

Hairy, smelly and spat a lot. I would have found a new watering hole.

Huw