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Car Forum / UK Car Forums / 4x4 Cars (UK group) / March 2005The 2.8 TGV diesel engine
Hello to all For those wanting to get rid of the gas engines in vehicles up to 6 ton GVW this may be the cure. 2.8 Lt turbo charged intercooled 135 HP, 277 ft pounds of torque at 1400 RPM. We have people putting these in Land Rovers, Jeeps, Ford and GMC. will also replace the gas eaters in Dodge units. An example of fuel savings and power a chap with a 2002 Land Rover Discovery has more power than with the orginal V-8 and has gone from 9 MPG to 18 MPG (US) gallon and the engine is still not broke in. These engines are built by International engines of South America, I fly them into Canada and the USA and Europe Highly adaptable to North American vehicles and used in South American Ford trucks and busses.Land Rovers love them. Pricing with delivery to your nearest International airport is between 6000.00 and 6500.00 USD. Contact me via Email for more information remove the (REMOVE) cahillsjREMOVE@ns.sympatico.ca Join the engine user group at hs2800TDI-subscribe@yahoogroups.com "Stephen" wrote in message > Hello to all > > For those wanting to get rid of the gas engines in vehicles up to 6 > ton GVW this may be the cure. > 2.8 Lt turbo charged intercooled 135 HP, 277 ft pounds of torque at > 1400 RPM. >> An example of fuel savings and power a chap with a 2002 Land Rover > Discovery has more power than with the orginal V-8 er that would be 135hp as against the V8's modest 182 hp then ?? Derek Hello Derek It is the torque that is the most important part of an engine.Low RPM high torque. The 4 cylinder has more torque than the V-8. Example you ever drive a diesel car and you do not have to give it any (gas) pedal in first gear to get moving.If you do the same thing in a petrol vehicle you have to give it gas (petrol) of it will stall. >"Stephen" wrote in message >> Hello to all [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >er that would be 135hp as against the V8's modest 182 hp then ?? >Derek My V8 Discovery happily pulls away from a standstill without giving it any gas (either petrol or LPG). Of course the diesel will five better fuel consumption that the V8, but run the V8 on LPG and the cost/mile is very much the same. If, as you say, torque is more important than hp why make a point of saying "Discovery has more power than with the original V-8"? Anyway, these engines are already available through a UK importer for much the same price, including delivery to your home and all taxes. Regards Steve G > Hello Derek > It is the torque that is the most important part of an engine.Low RPM [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >>er that would be 135hp as against the V8's modest 182 hp then ?? >>Derek "Stephen" <> Hello Derek > It is the torque that is the most important part of an engine.Low RPM > high torque. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > (gas) pedal in first gear to get moving.If you do the same thing in a > petrol vehicle you have to give it gas (petrol) of it will stall. I was merely being pedantic pointing out more power is more power and more torque is of course more torque. Being mindful of this Range Rover fitted a nice automatic box (only rarely a manual box on the later cars) on the V8's and having selected drive they quite happily pull away with no extra throttle sufficient torque imo although the peak comes in higher at around 3000 rpm perhaps I should quote the US spec figures P38a ( mk II ) to make the point Power (1995-98) 190 hp (4.0), 225 hp (4.6) @ 4,750 rpm (1999- ) 188 hp (4.0), 222 hp (4.6) @ 4,750 rpm Torque (1995-98) 236 lb-ft (4.0), 280 lb-ft (4.6) @ 3,000 rpm (1999- ) 250 lb-ft @ 3,000 rpm (4.0), 300 lb-ft @ 2,600 rpm (4.6) of course the penalty is the fuel consumption not really an issue in the US (fuel cost per gallon = uk cost per litre ) which explains the low numbers of oil burners over there. I really wouldn't consider converting a petrol to derv when LPG has more benefit without the performance loss and having to change the autobox ( and some ancillaries) because the variation would not get the best of a diesel tending to over revs on the standard box. Interesting tho turbo 2.8s are quite popular series conversions usually toyota or diahatsu units which are available for quite reasonable money over here Derek |
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