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Car Forum / UK Car Forums / 4x4 Cars (UK group) / April 2005

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Derek - 11 Apr 2005 22:48 GMT
What a nice offroad test Rangie Vs Fiat Panda 4x4 start both in the bottom
of a quarry race to the top as far as I can see it proved one thing that the
tw*t with the beard is just that, a slightly wider line and the panda would
not have become stuck in fact about the same line that the Rangie (wider
turning circle) took??. I despair at the tests on the program all they seem
to prove is that the presenters like to wear out tyres,and very little about
the practicality of the vehicles
Derek
Ian - 12 Apr 2005 13:09 GMT
"Derek"  wrote in message
> What a nice offroad test Rangie Vs Fiat Panda 4x4 start both in the bottom
> of a quarry race to the top as far as I can see it proved one thing that
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> the practicality of the vehicles
> Derek

Since when has offroading been about speed? I forgot, all motoring
programmes on TV are about speed.

Ian
Ian Rawlings - 13 Apr 2005 08:36 GMT
> Since when has offroading been about speed? I forgot, all motoring
> programmes on TV are about speed.

I saw one edition of Channel 4's effort where they "tested" the
off-roading ability of various soft-roaders by fixing an empty
horse-box to the back, dressing up as jockeys, and racing them across
a flat grass field.  Can't quite see any relevance anywhere to anyone
in that little exercise.

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"David G. Bell" - 13 Apr 2005 13:19 GMT
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> > Since when has offroading been about speed? I forgot, all motoring
> > programmes on TV are about speed.
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> a flat grass field.  Can't quite see any relevance anywhere to anyone
> in that little exercise.

One problem is that their presenters do not need to be all-round good
drivers.  I could see how, with a little effort, that scenario could be
turned into a reasonable test.  Add a soft, sticky bit, reversing the
trailer into a marked location, things like that.  But how many TV show
presenters can reverse a vehicle with trailer?

OK, here's a course to try.

Start with just the 4x4.  Cross a grass field with a stretch of rough
ground, passing through a couple of trials-like gates placed to require
a sharp turn.  Hitch up to the trailer and return by another route,
involving a bit of mud, and reverse into a marked bay to finish.

Have a marshal at the reversing who can scream "Stop!" before the
trailer jacknifes to damage the car.

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Ian Rawlings - 13 Apr 2005 23:24 GMT
> One problem is that their presenters do not need to be all-round
> good drivers.  I could see how, with a little effort, that scenario
> could be turned into a reasonable test.

I think that the way they were bouncing up and down in the seats,
whips out of the window, stupid grins on the faces and fast-paced
music dubbed over the top kind of set the tone of the exercise!
Anything of any merit at all was thrown out of the window.

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