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Car Forum / UK Car Forums / Car Maintenance (UK group) / September 2006

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94 Escort electric windows - wiring diagram needed?

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paulfoel - 23 Sep 2006 15:53 GMT
Bought this with driver side elec windows not working. Took the console
apart and it looks like the wires to the switch have been cut.

Theres about 6 wires including 3 brown. The coloured ones are easy to
match up but theres 3 brown...

Any ideas ? Or a wiring diagram ?
mrcheerful                                                                          . - 23 Sep 2006 16:37 GMT
> Bought this with driver side elec windows not working. Took the console
> apart and it looks like the wires to the switch have been cut.
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>
> Any ideas ? Or a wiring diagram ?

brown is earth, so it probably won't matter which goes where.  that model
always suffered from crap switches, a new switch always fixed the fault.
paulfoel - 23 Sep 2006 19:36 GMT
mrcheerful
           . wrote:
> > Bought this with driver side elec windows not working. Took the console
> > apart and it looks like the wires to the switch have been cut.
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> brown is earth, so it probably won't matter which goes where.  that model
> always suffered from crap switches, a new switch always fixed the fault.

the switch is fine - I tried it on the passenger side window...

Why three earths though ???
John - 23 Sep 2006 20:30 GMT
The switch has double contacts so you need seperate earths for up and down.
The other one could be for bulb.

JOhn

> mrcheerful
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>
> Why three earths though ???
paulfoel - 24 Sep 2006 11:55 GMT
right - so it makes no difference to which other earth each one is
connected then ?

> The switch has double contacts so you need seperate earths for up and down.
> The other one could be for bulb.
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> >
> > Why three earths though ???
David Taylor - 24 Sep 2006 13:00 GMT
> right - so it makes no difference to which other earth each one is
> connected then ?

If they're both earths, they're both connected together anyway.

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Bill - 24 Sep 2006 15:19 GMT
>> right - so it makes no difference to which other earth each one is
>> connected then ?
>
>If they're both earths, they're both connected together anyway.

Are we talking earth or negative here? Two different things if you are
wanting a DC motor to rotate both ways.

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paulfoel - 24 Sep 2006 18:17 GMT
> >> right - so it makes no difference to which other earth each one is
> >> connected then ?
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> Are we talking earth or negative here? Two different things if you are
> wanting a DC motor to rotate both ways.

No idea - just three brown wires !!!
John - 27 Sep 2006 23:01 GMT
Earth/ negative same thing on DC

JOhn

>>> right - so it makes no difference to which other earth each one is
>>> connected then ?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Are we talking earth or negative here? Two different things if you are
> wanting a DC motor to rotate both ways.
Duncan Wood - 27 Sep 2006 23:09 GMT
> Earth/ negative same thing on DC
>
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>> --
>> Bill

NOt on a positive earth car they aren't.
More to the point, on a window motor you switch the earth/negative between  
wires & the live between wires to make it go up or down. Did anybody ever  
make a positive earth car with electric windows?
John - 28 Sep 2006 23:22 GMT
>> Earth/ negative same thing on DC
>>
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> wires & the live between wires to make it go up or down. Did anybody ever
> make a positive earth car with electric windows?

How many people reading this are driving positive earth cars?
Chris Whelan - 29 Sep 2006 10:36 GMT
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> How many people reading this are driving positive earth cars?

Hopefully none!

:-)

Chris

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mrcheerful                                                                          . - 23 Sep 2006 20:58 GMT
> mrcheerful
>            . wrote:
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> Why three earths though ???

it probably makes the switch cheaper to make.
 
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