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Gez Watson - 25 Jan 2007 02:03 GMT
I've found somewhere!

Somewhere that still sells Vesta meals that is.

Popped into an ASDA many miles away from home to get a few things, and
there they were. Three varieties in glorious black boxes - Beef Curry,
Chow Mein and Paella. I duly bought the Beef Curry variety (my
childhood favourite) and stroked the box lovingly all the way home.

I bet you're all jealous now, aren't you?

Man, I haven't had one of these in oh, twenty-odd years. I hope
they're still as good as I remember.

I will consume in the next day or so and report back here.

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Gez Watson - 25 Jan 2007 02:58 GMT
>I've found somewhere!
>
>Somewhere that still sells Vesta meals that is.

Ok, I'm following up to my own post and I apologise for that fact, but
I've just gotta ask this question.

I'm sure that in the now, dim and distant past, Vesta used to produce
more than the three varieties that I've mentioned.

Anyone know what Vesta's full range consisted of?

For example, didn't they do a chicken curry too?

<Gez coveting his box of Vesta Beef Curry>

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michael adams - 25 Jan 2007 04:25 GMT
> >I've found somewhere!
> >
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> For example, didn't they do a chicken curry too?

A quick google from various sources comes up with

Vesta Chow Mein  (Favourite)
Vesta Beef Curry
Vesta Chicken Supreme (2nd Favourite)
Vesta Beef Risotto
Vesta Chicken Curry
Vesta Paella
ISTR they also did a particularly horrible
Vesta Spaghetti Bolognese
the "sauce" was very red\orange coloured, tasted of chemicals, and
wasn't  a patch on Heinz tinned Spaghetti Bolognese - "the real thing"
I think the "gimmick" with Vesta Spag Bol was the packet of parmesan.
mimicking the sachet of soy with Vesta Chow Mein.

They were probably responsible for a few other culinary outrages as well.

michael adams

> <Gez coveting his box of Vesta Beef Curry>
JNugent - 25 Jan 2007 18:03 GMT
>>>I've found somewhere!
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> michael adams

Is that a "for" post or an "against" post? :-)

Thinking back over the last forty years, I really liked
the Paella and Chow Mein (especially the crispy noodles
and soy sauce), with the Risotto coming in a definite
third. The currys were absolutely awful - full of
raisins... :-(
Grimly Curmudgeon - 25 Jan 2007 19:03 GMT
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember JNugent <not.telling@isp.com>
saying something like:

>The currys were absolutely awful - full of
>raisins... :-(

Aherm...

Those weren't raisins.
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Phil Randal - 25 Jan 2007 08:48 GMT
>> I've found somewhere!
>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> <Gez coveting his box of Vesta Beef Curry>

Swan Vestas?
Bondee - 25 Jan 2007 20:24 GMT
The main customer of the company that I work for is a Danish wind turbine
manufacturer called Vestas.

Every time I hear their name I think of boil in the bag curries, chow-mein,
etc and this thread is doing nothing to remove the association from my mind!
: )
Kevin Lee - 25 Jan 2007 23:48 GMT
>>I've found somewhere!
>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
><Gez coveting his box of Vesta Beef Curry>

The only two of these I've seen recently are the Chow Mein and the
Beef Curry. I used to eat these things when I was a student favourites
were the Chow Mein , Beef Risotto and the Paella.

IIRC in addition to the other varieties some people have mentioned
Vesta used to do a Prawn Curry (fairly disgusting with its dehydrated
prawns), Chop Suey (no idea what was in that but it was warm and
almost edible).
Adrian - 25 Jan 2007 08:09 GMT
> I've found somewhere!
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> I bet you're all jealous now, aren't you?

No.

Not even remotely.

Why? I mean, just WHY...?

It's not exactly difficult to make something infinitely better from
scratch.
Catman - 25 Jan 2007 08:37 GMT
>> I've found somewhere!
>>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> It's not exactly difficult to make something infinitely better from
> scratch.

Indeed.  Is there an opposite of jealously?  Cos that's what I'm
feeling. And pity, of course.

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tallbloke - 25 Jan 2007 09:16 GMT
>> Why? I mean, just WHY...?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Indeed.  Is there an opposite of jealously?  Cos that's what I'm
> feeling. And pity, of course.

I think it was Raven that used to do a 'Regal' range of freeze dried meals
for backpackers. Not bad curry if you lobbed a few raisins and a bit of
whatever fresh veg you could find in too.

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JAF - 25 Jan 2007 09:37 GMT
>>> Why? I mean, just WHY...?
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>for backpackers. Not bad curry if you lobbed a few raisins and a bit of
>whatever fresh veg you could find in too.

Raisins in curry?  FFS!
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Steve Parry - 25 Jan 2007 11:09 GMT
In news:clugr2hnkgd8895sjes2b4fuqrmthhakd5@4ax.com,
JAF <anarchSPAMKILLER@ntlworld.com> wibbled

>>>> Why? I mean, just WHY...?
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Raisins in curry?  FFS!

Quite ...

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Pip Luscher - 25 Jan 2007 11:24 GMT
>>I think it was Raven that used to do a 'Regal' range of freeze dried meals
>>for backpackers. Not bad curry if you lobbed a few raisins and a bit of
>>whatever fresh veg you could find in too.
>
>Raisins in curry?  FFS!

I can remember a time when a "curry" was stew with rasins and "curry
powder" added.

If it was an extra exotic one it might have had a bit of grated
coconut in it, too.

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Anne Chambers - 25 Jan 2007 11:31 GMT
> I can remember a time when a "curry" was stew with rasins and "curry
> powder" added.
>
> If it was an extra exotic one it might have had a bit of grated
> coconut in it, too.

Indeed - your mother & mine must have taken cookery lessons together :)
And don't forget the sliced bananas rolled in desiccated coconut as a
condiment...

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The Older Gentleman - 25 Jan 2007 12:26 GMT
> > I can remember a time when a "curry" was stew with rasins and "curry
> > powder" added.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> And don't forget the sliced bananas rolled in desiccated coconut as a
> condiment...

And little bowls of cornflakes, to sprinkle on top.

My Mum was obviously in the same lessons.

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Alison Hopkins - 25 Jan 2007 17:38 GMT
>> > I can remember a time when a "curry" was stew with rasins and "curry
>> > powder" added.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> My Mum was obviously in the same lessons.

Curry powder made egg sarnies rather nice, though. Do you remember when you
could only buy olive oil in a chemist?

Ali
kochanski - 25 Jan 2007 17:40 GMT
>>> > I can remember a time when a "curry" was stew with rasins and "curry
>>> > powder" added.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>Curry powder made egg sarnies rather nice, though. Do you remember when you
>could only buy olive oil in a chemist?

...to put in your ears when you had earache. Now people *cook* with
it!
The Older Gentleman - 25 Jan 2007 17:43 GMT
> >Curry powder made egg sarnies rather nice, though. Do you remember when you
> >could only buy olive oil in a chemist?
>
> ...to put in your ears when you had earache.

You too, huh?

>Now people *cook* with
> it!

It'll all end in tears before bedtime, mark my words.

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Gregoire Kretz - 27 Jan 2007 10:13 GMT
> > >Do you remember when you could only buy olive oil in a chemist?
> >
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> It'll all end in tears before bedtime, mark my words.

Shouldn't that be 'in ears', à la Father Ted candles?

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Catman - 25 Jan 2007 18:00 GMT
>>>>> I can remember a time when a "curry" was stew with rasins and "curry
>>>>> powder" added.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> ...to put in your ears when you had earache. Now people *cook* with
> it!

Well, it tastes better than Otex......

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Alison Hopkins - 25 Jan 2007 18:03 GMT
> Well, it tastes better than Otex......

That has to be the nastiest TV commercial, that one. And it's always on at a
mealtime.

Ali
Mike Swift - 25 Jan 2007 18:21 GMT
>> Well, it tastes better than Otex......
>
>That has to be the nastiest TV commercial, that one. And it's always on
>at a mealtime.

And it's useless, when I tried it anyway.

Mike

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GordonD - 25 Jan 2007 19:42 GMT
>>> Well, it tastes better than Otex......
>>
>> That has to be the nastiest TV commercial, that one. And it's always
>> on at a mealtime.
>
> And it's useless, when I tried it anyway.

Pardon?
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Ophelia - 25 Jan 2007 19:48 GMT
>>>> Well, it tastes better than Otex......
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Pardon?

Hi Gordon:))))

*waves*
Mike Swift - 25 Jan 2007 23:20 GMT
>>>> Well, it tastes better than Otex......
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Pardon?

Otex ear wax remover.

Mike

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GordonD - 28 Jan 2007 19:56 GMT
>>>>> Well, it tastes better than Otex......
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Otex ear wax remover.

Sorry, still can't hear you.
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Mike Swift - 29 Jan 2007 18:42 GMT
>>>>> That has to be the nastiest TV commercial, that one. And it's
>>>>> always on at a mealtime.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Sorry, still can't hear you.

Lol, go on then, bit slow, I blame the Scotch.

Mike

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Lister - 29 Jan 2007 19:01 GMT
>>>>>> That has to be the nastiest TV commercial, that one. And it's
>>>>>> always on at a mealtime.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>Lol, go on then, bit slow, I blame the Scotch.

Don't do that, Gordon's a Scot :)

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Rope - 27 Jan 2007 13:24 GMT
Alison Hopkins spoke:
> Do you remember when you
> could only buy olive oil in a chemist?

In little bottles? - soak cotton wool in it and stuff in
ears for earache

Never bloody worked!

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Badger Shame - 27 Jan 2007 16:58 GMT
Rope spam@ukrm.net wrote in <VA.000024d8.043a70db@ukrm.net>:
> Alison Hopkins spoke:
> > Do you remember when you
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Never bloody worked!

It wouldn't. You are supposed to warm it up first so that it's warm enough
to melt ear wax but not so hot as to be painful.

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Rope - 27 Jan 2007 17:24 GMT
Badger Shame spoke:
> > Alison Hopkins spoke:
> > > Do you remember when you
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> It wouldn't. You are supposed to warm it up first so that it's warm enough
> to melt ear wax but not so hot as to be painful.

Ah yes, I remember it now - the bottle siting in a bowl of hot water for a
while, (which is why it never had a label on it) then the cotton wool

- still never bloody worked!

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Alan - 27 Jan 2007 17:42 GMT
> Badger Shame spoke:
>> > Alison Hopkins spoke:
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> - still never bloody worked!

The oil is absorbed by the ear wax which is creates a soft gunge, the
nurse then gets one of those syringes used to decorate cakes and pumps 3
gallons of water into your lughole at about 200psi, the gooey mess is
cleaned out. Job's a goodun - apart from perforated eardrums and
permanent tinnitus of course.
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Mary Pegg - 27 Jan 2007 18:02 GMT
> The oil is absorbed by the ear wax which is creates a soft gunge, the
> nurse then gets one of those syringes used to decorate cakes and pumps 3
> gallons of water into your lughole at about 200psi, the gooey mess is
> cleaned out. Job's a goodun - apart from perforated eardrums and
> permanent tinnitus of course.

They've got special machines these days.  Presumably they are carefully
calibrated to be just not quite powerful enough to burst your eardrum.
Mike Swift - 27 Jan 2007 22:13 GMT
>> - still never bloody worked!
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>cleaned out. Job's a goodun - apart from perforated eardrums and
>permanent tinnitus of course.

And the quack saying 'Now that's much better isn't it' in a voice that
sounds like Jehovah on a bad day which sort of defeats the object of
having the lugs cleaned out in the first place because you're now deaf
again from the increased decibels.

Mike

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JNugent - 27 Jan 2007 18:22 GMT
> Alison Hopkins spoke:
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Never bloody worked!

It was only for softening ear-wax, wasn't it?
Norcot - 27 Jan 2007 18:38 GMT
>> Alison Hopkins spoke:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> It was only for softening ear-wax, wasn't it?

It did soften the wax - eventually  - but I think the main aim was to sooth
the pain. They used to heat a teaspoon by placing it in boiling water, dry
the spoon and put the oil in it to heat up, then pour the oil into the ear.
Plug with cotton wool and keep the head held with the effected ear held
upwards.

Norcot  (Retired country chemist)
Alfred Packer - 27 Jan 2007 22:50 GMT
>>> Alison Hopkins spoke:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Norcot  (Retired country chemist)

oh I remember that.  With that association it took me quite a long time to
come round to using olive oil for food!  It just used to conjour up images
of ear wax.

Al
GordonD - 28 Jan 2007 20:03 GMT
>>>> Alison Hopkins spoke:
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> up
> images of ear wax.

Main use for olive oil in our house was to clean off the black sticky mark
round the edge when you took off a Band-Aid.
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deadmail@burnt.org.uk - 27 Jan 2007 12:56 GMT
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>> > I can remember a time when a "curry" was stew with rasins and "curry
>> > powder" added.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>My Mum was obviously in the same lessons.

When my grandmother became too senile to be trusted in the kitchen my
grandfather took over the cooking.

His culinary crimes included putting cornflakes in jelly.
The Older Gentleman - 27 Jan 2007 13:15 GMT
> When my grandmother became too senile to be trusted in the kitchen my
> grandfather took over the cooking.
>
> His culinary crimes included putting cornflakes in jelly.

Holy Christ.

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>> When my grandmother became too senile to be trusted in the kitchen my
>> grandfather took over the cooking.
>>
>> His culinary crimes included putting cornflakes in jelly.
>
>Holy Christ.

Well, exactly.  It wouldn't have been so bad if they weren't soggy when
you ate them.  Cold and soggy fresh from the larder.
Rope - 27 Jan 2007 13:24 GMT
spoke:
> When my grandmother became too senile to be trusted in the kitchen my
> grandfather took over the cooking.
>
> His culinary crimes included putting cornflakes in jelly.

FFS! - I hope SWMBO never reads this!

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> When my grandmother became too senile to be trusted in the kitchen my
> grandfather took over the cooking.
>
> His culinary crimes included putting cornflakes in jelly.

I have eaten cornflake curry. On the whole it was marginally preferable to
nothing at all.

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Mary Pegg - 27 Jan 2007 17:59 GMT
> I have eaten cornflake curry. On the whole it was marginally preferable to
> nothing at all.

Roadkill's pretty cheap too.
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> > I have eaten cornflake curry. On the whole it was marginally preferable to
> > nothing at all.
>
> Roadkill's pretty cheap too.

And another thing that's better than Vesta meals is buttered gravel with
garlic. Though admittedly it's better if you pick out the bits of gravel
and leave them on somebody else's plate, at least there's something left
after you pick out the inedible crud though.

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platypus - 27 Jan 2007 22:29 GMT
> When my grandmother became too senile to be trusted in the kitchen my
> grandfather took over the cooking.
>
> His culinary crimes included putting cornflakes in jelly.

My FiL has been in the same situation for a few years now.  He's coping
pretty well, cooking-wise.

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Simon Finnigan - 28 Jan 2007 22:34 GMT
> chateau.murray.takethisout@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote in
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>
> His culinary crimes included putting cornflakes in jelly.

Before my grandma went senile, she used to put salt on her cornflakes.  Not
once as a mistake, but regularly.  Quite possibly the nastiest thing I have
ever tried eating :-)
Mike Swift - 29 Jan 2007 18:42 GMT
>> His culinary crimes included putting cornflakes in jelly.
>
>Before my grandma went senile, she used to put salt on her cornflakes.  
>Not once as a mistake, but regularly.  Quite possibly the nastiest thing
>I have ever tried eating :-)

I remember when I was about 5, 55 years ago, I used to bother a
neighbour who's husband was knocking on a bit, at least it seemed to me
then, he used to eat/drink bread in milk, I think it's a Yorkshire thing
called Possett, I pestered them for some and when they gave in it was
truly disgusting, funny how as you get older these early things in your
life are remembered.

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JAF - 29 Jan 2007 18:47 GMT
> eat/drink bread in milk

When we were kids, and poor, we used to have bread and milk for breakfast,
instead of cereals.
Posset is something else entirely.  A kind of curd.
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Ace - 29 Jan 2007 18:58 GMT
>> eat/drink bread in milk
>
>When we were kids, and poor, we used to have bread and milk for breakfast,
>instead of cereals.

Come from a long line of hedgehogs, do you?

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JAF - 29 Jan 2007 20:38 GMT
>>> eat/drink bread in milk
>>
>>When we were kids, and poor, we used to have bread and milk for breakfast,
>>instead of cereals.
>
>Come from a long line of hedgehogs, do you?

Yeah, the Tiller Hedgehogs.

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Halmyre - 29 Jan 2007 20:44 GMT
> >>> eat/drink bread in milk
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Yeah, the Tiller Hedgehogs.

I've got this image of a line of hedgehogs doing a high-kicking routine
in tights and spangly costumes. Is this correct?

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JAF - 29 Jan 2007 20:47 GMT
>> >>> eat/drink bread in milk
>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>I've got this image of a line of hedgehogs doing a high-kicking routine
>in tights and spangly costumes. Is this correct?

Isn't it a strange phenomenon, that once you explain a joke, it's suddenly
not funny any more.
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Halmyre - 29 Jan 2007 22:33 GMT
> >> >>> eat/drink bread in milk
> >> >>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Isn't it a strange phenomenon, that once you explain a joke, it's suddenly
> not funny any more.

D'oh - line - OK, I get it now. Bloody Scrumpy Jack...

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JAF - 29 Jan 2007 23:17 GMT
>> >> >>> eat/drink bread in milk
>> >> >>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
>D'oh - line - OK, I get it now. Bloody Scrumpy Jack...

Well done.  Better late than never, eh?

For one awful moment I thought I was going to have to <<whoosh>> you.
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Badger Shame - 29 Jan 2007 21:41 GMT
Halmyre nospam@this.address wrote in
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> > Yeah, the Tiller Hedgehogs.
>
> I've got this image of a line of hedgehogs doing a high-kicking routine
> in tights and spangly costumes. Is this correct?

No. It is fundamentally and irrevocably a crime against nature and a
danger to the order of the universe. Cease and desist forthwith. Here,
have some brain bleach, there's still some left if you shake the bottle a
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GordonD - 29 Jan 2007 21:53 GMT
>>> eat/drink bread in milk
>>
>> When we were kids, and poor, we used to have bread and milk for
>> breakfast, instead of cereals.
>
> Come from a long line of hedgehogs, do you?

<Pedant>
You're not supposed to give milk to hedgehogs. They can't digest it properly
and it gives them the sh.ts. Cat food is supposedly best, with water to
drink.
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Ace - 30 Jan 2007 06:44 GMT
>>> When we were kids, and poor, we used to have bread and milk for
>>> breakfast, instead of cereals.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
><Pedant>
>You're not supposed to give milk to hedgehogs. They can't digest it properly

They say you're not supposed to give it cats either, for the same
reason. 'They' are spouting bollocks.

>and it gives them the sh.ts. Cat food is supposedly best, with water to
>drink.
></Pedant>

'Best' is a bowl full of slugs and worms, I'd have thought.
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Alan Hope - 30 Jan 2007 09:06 GMT
Ace goes:

>>>> When we were kids, and poor, we used to have bread and milk for
>>>> breakfast, instead of cereals.

>>> Come from a long line of hedgehogs, do you?

>><Pedant>
>>You're not supposed to give milk to hedgehogs. They can't digest it properly

>They say you're not supposed to give it cats either, for the same
>reason. 'They' are spouting bollocks.

>>and it gives them the sh.ts. Cat food is supposedly best, with water to
>>drink.
>></Pedant>

>'Best' is a bowl full of slugs and worms, I'd have thought.

What would happen if you gave them slugs you'd caught with a beer
trap? Would they like that, d'you think? Mrs. Tiggywinkle would never
get any pocket hankies washed, of course, lying around all day in a
drunken stupor. Watching Trisha, oh yes if you please'm.

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Amethyst Deceiver - 30 Jan 2007 15:26 GMT
>>>> When we were kids, and poor, we used to have bread and milk for
>>>> breakfast, instead of cereals.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> They say you're not supposed to give it cats either, for the same
> reason. 'They' are spouting bollocks.

You've never had to clear up the resultant diarrhoea, have you. Adult
cats do not have the enzyme required to digest dairy milk. Neither do
most adult humans, for that matter.
Phil Launchbury - 30 Jan 2007 16:18 GMT
> You've never had to clear up the resultant diarrhoea, have you. Adult
> cats do not have the enzyme required to digest dairy milk. Neither do

Utter, utter, utter twaddle.

I've had cats all my life (a total of 9 of them over the years) and
*none* of them have had problems with milk. That includes my current 3
who at 18, 18 and 16 are old enough that any problems would have
manifested themselves..

*Some* cats do - just like *some* humans do (most Caucasian types
retain the ability to digest milk quite happily due to a mutation - the
body usually stops generating the enzyme involved during childhood but
in most caucasian groups the mechanism to switch off the enzyme is
missing).

Phil

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Ace - 31 Jan 2007 05:21 GMT
>> You've never had to clear up the resultant diarrhoea, have you. Adult
>> cats do not have the enzyme required to digest dairy milk.

I've had to clear up just about any mess a cat can make,but not from
drinking milk.

>Utter, utter, utter twaddle.

Quite.

>I've had cats all my life (a total of 9 of them over the years)

<counts>

Up to 12 so far.

>and *none* of them have had problems with milk. That includes my current 3
>who at 18, 18 and 16 are old enough that any problems would have
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>in most caucasian groups the mechanism to switch off the enzyme is
>missing).

Never knew that. Makes sense, I suppose.
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Catman - 30 Jan 2007 13:07 GMT
>>>> eat/drink bread in milk
>>> When we were kids, and poor, we used to have bread and milk for
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> drink.
> </Pedant>
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I don't think that's particularly pdeantic

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Ophelia - 29 Jan 2007 19:01 GMT
>> eat/drink bread in milk
>
> When we were kids, and poor, we used to have bread and milk for breakfast,
> instead of cereals.
> Posset is something else entirely.  A kind of curd.

yes I believe it is a drink of hot sweetened milk curdled with ale.

When I was very small my Grandma used to make me bread and hot milk with
sugar for supper:)
Norcot - 29 Jan 2007 19:13 GMT
>> eat/drink bread in milk
>
> When we were kids, and poor, we used to have bread and milk for breakfast,
> instead of cereals.
> Posset is something else entirely.  A kind of curd.

In Lancashire, Bread & Milk was always called POPS or possibly POBS.

Norcot
JNugent - 29 Jan 2007 19:22 GMT
>>>eat/drink bread in milk
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Norcot

Pobs (often with sugar).
Alan Hope - 30 Jan 2007 09:03 GMT
Mike Swift goes:

>>> His culinary crimes included putting cornflakes in jelly.

>>Before my grandma went senile, she used to put salt on her cornflakes.  
>>Not once as a mistake, but regularly.  Quite possibly the nastiest thing
>>I have ever tried eating :-)

>I remember when I was about 5, 55 years ago, I used to bother a
>neighbour who's husband was knocking on a bit, at least it seemed to me
>then, he used to eat/drink bread in milk, I think it's a Yorkshire thing
>called Possett, I pestered them for some and when they gave in it was
>truly disgusting, funny how as you get older these early things in your
>life are remembered.

Kellogg's corn flakes have salt quite clearly marked as an ingredient.
They established the principle: Simon's gran is only negotiating the
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Kevin Lee - 31 Jan 2007 23:19 GMT
>>> His culinary crimes included putting cornflakes in jelly.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>Mike

I remember my grandfather used to eat/drink that and he came from
Lancashire. He also used to drink a sherry glass of the water used to
boil cabbage as he claimed it had extra iron in it. Putting salt on
porridge was also popular with my grandparents.

Eating bread with condensed milk spread on it is popular with the
older generation of West Indians.
Calum - 31 Jan 2007 23:56 GMT
> Eating bread with condensed milk spread on it is popular with the
> older generation of West Indians.

Sod the bread... I could easily eat a tin of condensed milk though.
spike1@freenet.co.uk - 01 Feb 2007 00:15 GMT
Calum <com.gmail@scottishwildcat.nospam> did eloquently scribble:

>> Eating bread with condensed milk spread on it is popular with the
>> older generation of West Indians.

> Sod the bread... I could easily eat a tin of condensed milk though.

Heheh, bread and condenced milk sandwiches...
Not heard that since the end of tiswas.
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Alan Hope - 01 Feb 2007 00:53 GMT
Calum goes:

>> Eating bread with condensed milk spread on it is popular with the
>> older generation of West Indians.

>Sod the bread... I could easily eat a tin of condensed milk though.

Take a tin of condensed milk, stand in water in a pot, bring to the
boil and simmer for two or three or even four hours. Longer is better.
I swear this works. Don't puncture the can at all, and make sure it's
always covered with water. Always.

When it's done, lets it cool completely, then open both ends and push
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Red Fog - 01 Feb 2007 00:55 GMT
> Take a tin of condensed milk, stand in water in a pot

I'll look a right c.nt.
Ophelia - 01 Feb 2007 07:53 GMT
>> Take a tin of condensed milk, stand in water in a pot
>
> I'll look a right c.nt.

ROFL
Ace - 01 Feb 2007 08:42 GMT
>Calum goes:
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>I swear this works. Don't puncture the can at all, and make sure it's
>always covered with water. Always.

Can't be done - the can floats. The rest of it is right, though - when
done put in a pastry case over a layer of sliced bananas and bake -
banoffee pie - yumm.

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Alan Hope - 02 Feb 2007 00:36 GMT
Ace goes:

>>Calum goes:

>>>> Eating bread with condensed milk spread on it is popular with the
>>>> older generation of West Indians.

>>>Sod the bread... I could easily eat a tin of condensed milk though.

>>Take a tin of condensed milk, stand in water in a pot, bring to the
>>boil and simmer for two or three or even four hours. Longer is better.
>>I swear this works. Don't puncture the can at all, and make sure it's
>>always covered with water. Always.

>Can't be done - the can floats. The rest of it is right, though - when
>done put in a pastry case over a layer of sliced bananas and bake -
>banoffee pie - yumm.

Put a weight on the can. Do you need me to explain that you need to
light the gas? I left that part out, because I thought you might
figure it out for yourself. I see now I may have been too charitable.

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Simes - 02 Feb 2007 00:45 GMT
That dear old chap, Alan tugged on his old shag and said:

> Ace goes:
>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> light the gas? I left that part out, because I thought you might
> figure it out for yourself. I see now I may have been too charitable.

Is a match ok to light the gas or should it be only lit using a British
Standard Gas Poker?

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Ace - 02 Feb 2007 07:50 GMT
>Ace goes:

>>>Take a tin of condensed milk, stand in water in a pot, bring to the
>>>boil and simmer for two or three or even four hours. Longer is better.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Put a weight on the can.

Why?

>Do you need me to explain that you need to light the gas?

If you could explain how I'd do that I'd be grateful, yes.

>I left that part out, because I thought you might
>figure it out for yourself. I see now I may have been too charitable.

No, just too stupidly rigid. You state as gospel something which won't
work as you explain it and isn't at all necessary.

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Anne Chambers - 02 Feb 2007 08:04 GMT
>>Ace goes:
>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> No, just too stupidly rigid. You state as gospel something which won't
> work as you explain it and isn't at all necessary.

I made it last weekend - the can doesn't float,if you lay it on its
side.  You just need to keep the water topped up.

On the other hand, I don't use gas -perhaps that made the difference

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Alan Hope - 02 Feb 2007 19:15 GMT
Ace goes:

>>Ace goes:

>>>>Take a tin of condensed milk, stand in water in a pot, bring to the
>>>>boil and simmer for two or three or even four hours. Longer is better.
>>>>I swear this works. Don't puncture the can at all, and make sure it's
>>>>always covered with water. Always.

>>>Can't be done - the can floats. The rest of it is right, though - when
>>>done put in a pastry case over a layer of sliced bananas and bake -
>>>banoffee pie - yumm.

>>Put a weight on the can.

>Why?

Stop it floating, duh.

>>Do you need me to explain that you need to light the gas?

>If you could explain how I'd do that I'd be grateful, yes.

I doubt you're allowed matches.

>>I left that part out, because I thought you might
>>figure it out for yourself. I see now I may have been too charitable.

>No, just too stupidly rigid. You state as gospel something which won't
>work as you explain it and isn't at all necessary.

It works fine. Sorry you're too stupid to get it.

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Ace - 02 Feb 2007 23:11 GMT
>Ace goes:

>>>Put a weight on the can.
>
>>Why?
>
>Stop it floating, duh.

Why?

>>>I left that part out, because I thought you might
>>>figure it out for yourself. I see now I may have been too charitable.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>It works fine. Sorry you're too stupid to get it.

When you've managed to get a grasp of language sufficient to
understand my question[1] and try to answer it, please feel free to do
so. Until then I suggest you stick to areas within your capability.
OK?

[1] Hint - it's only a one word question.
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>Why?

If the can is fully immersed, the contents can't reach a temperature above
100°C.  If part of the can is out of the water, the temperature can go above
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Paul Cummins - 03 Feb 2007 10:56 GMT
> If part of the can is out of the water, the temperature can go
> above the BP of water, and explosion may ensue.

If the heat is coming from the water, how can the temperature of the
item exceed the temperature of the heat-source?

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Ace - 03 Feb 2007 11:00 GMT
>>Why?
>
>If the can is fully immersed, the contents can't reach a temperature above
>100°C.  If part of the can is out of the water, the temperature can go above
>the BP of water, and explosion may ensue.

That's just plain wrong, I'm afraid. In a pressurised container
tempuratures will be much higher than 100C anyway, just as they would
be in a pressure cooker.

And just how the temurature of the part exposed to air could get
hotter that that part immersed in boiling water I'm not at all sure.

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Paul Cummins - 03 Feb 2007 11:15 GMT
> In a pressurised container
> tempuratures will be much higher than 100C anyway, just as they
> would be in a pressure cooker.

In a pressure cooker, it's the pressure itself that allows the water
to stay liquid to a higher temperature, because the heat source (the
gas/electric ring) is much hotter than 100c

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JAF - 03 Feb 2007 11:16 GMT
>And just how the temurature of the part exposed to air could get
>hotter that that part immersed in boiling water I'm not at all sure.

In which case, you shouldn't argue about it.
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Ace - 03 Feb 2007 11:18 GMT
>>And just how the temurature of the part exposed to air could get
>>hotter that that part immersed in boiling water I'm not at all sure.
>
>In which case, you shouldn't argue about it.

I'd like you to explain, if you'd be so kind.
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JAF - 03 Feb 2007 12:19 GMT
>>>And just how the temurature of the part exposed to air could get
>>>hotter that that part immersed in boiling water I'm not at all sure.
>>
>>In which case, you shouldn't argue about it.
>
>I'd like you to explain, if you'd be so kind.

A pressure cooker *will* raise the temperature of the contents to, say, 130
deg. *in air* (at NTP).  In a bath of boiling water, it is then effectively
cooled to 100 deg. by the water.  The contents of the can thicken, and so
convection is hindered; any part out of the water can then heat to 130 deg.
(or less, but still more than 100 deg).
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Paul Cummins - 03 Feb 2007 12:38 GMT
> A pressure cooker *will* raise the temperature of the contents to,
> say, 130
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> 130 deg.
> (or less, but still more than 100 deg).

What a load of pseudo-scientific bollocks.

A pressure cooker works because the pressure of the enclosed cell
increases when heated, thus raising the boiling point of the water
within it past 100c.

It's exactly the same as the pressure cap on a car radiator - raising
the effective cooling capacity of the liquid within.

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Richard Tobin - 03 Feb 2007 15:42 GMT
>The contents of the can thicken, and so
>convection is hindered; any part out of the water can then heat to 130 deg.
>(or less, but still more than 100 deg).

Only if the can is itself in contact with a temperate above 100C, which
it isn't if it's floating freely in water.

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Richard Tobin - 03 Feb 2007 15:39 GMT
>That's just plain wrong, I'm afraid. In a pressurised container
>tempuratures will be much higher than 100C anyway, just as they would
>be in a pressure cooker.

No, not if it's immersed in water at normal pressure.  As Flanders and
Swan put it: heat can't pass from a colder to a hotter, and that's a
physical law.  If the water in the pan is at 100C, the can can't get
hotter than that.

Pressure cookers allow the temperate of liquid water to exceed 100C,
but they do this by applying a high temperature (much more than 100C)
to a sealed pan.  

>And just how the temurature of the part exposed to air could get
>hotter that that part immersed in boiling water I'm not at all sure.

That on the other hand is more to the point: the only way a can
floating in water could exceed 100C is if the air above the water was
hotter than 100C, which is very unlikely.  Unless of course the can
is in contact with the side of the pan, which could well be hotter.

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Ace - 03 Feb 2007 18:07 GMT
>>That's just plain wrong, I'm afraid. In a pressurised container
>>tempuratures will be much higher than 100C anyway, just as they would
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>physical law.  If the water in the pan is at 100C, the can can't get
>hotter than that.

Good point.

>>And just how the temurature of the part exposed to air could get
>>hotter that that part immersed in boiling water I'm not at all sure.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>hotter than 100C, which is very unlikely.  Unless of course the can
>is in contact with the side of the pan, which could well be hotter.

Well yes, but that's just as likely whether it's immersed or not.

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Dunny - 07 Feb 2007 23:19 GMT
> Pressure cookers allow the temperate of liquid water to exceed 100C,
> but they do this by applying a high temperature (much more than 100C)
> to a sealed pan.

I always thought that they applied pressure... Hence the name?

D.
spike1@freenet.co.uk - 07 Feb 2007 23:22 GMT
Dunny <paul.dunn4@ntlworld.com> did eloquently scribble:

>> Pressure cookers allow the temperate of liquid water to exceed 100C,
>> but they do this by applying a high temperature (much more than 100C)
>> to a sealed pan.

> I always thought that they applied pressure... Hence the name?

It's the boiling water that applies the pressure. All the pressure cookers
do is contain it (and occasionally release it by raising the little bobbley
weight thing and whistling).
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>> Pressure cookers allow the temperate of liquid water to exceed 100C,
>> but they do this by applying a high temperature (much more than 100C)
>> to a sealed pan.
>
> I always thought that they applied pressure... Hence the name?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressure_cooker

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banjo - 07 Feb 2007 23:36 GMT
>> Pressure cookers allow the temperate of liquid water to exceed 100C,
>> but they do this by applying a high temperature (much more than 100C)
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> D.

the higher the pressure, the higher the boiling point.
David Taylor - 07 Feb 2007 23:43 GMT
>> Pressure cookers allow the temperate of liquid water to exceed 100C,
>> but they do this by applying a high temperature (much more than 100C)
>> to a sealed pan.
>
> I always thought that they applied pressure... Hence the name?

Nope, they apply heat to a sealed container, which increases the
pressure inside the pan.  This stops the water turning to steam
at 100C and convecting all the heat away.

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ogden - 07 Feb 2007 23:54 GMT
> > Pressure cookers allow the temperate of liquid water to exceed 100C,
> > but they do this by applying a high temperature (much more than 100C)
> > to a sealed pan.
>
> I always thought that they applied pressure... Hence the name?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyles_law
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Alan Hope - 01 Feb 2007 00:47 GMT
Kevin Lee goes:

>Eating bread with condensed milk spread on it is popular with the
>older generation of West Indians.

VS Naipaul explained that as a leftover from the days when everything
had to be shipped in. So they're also fond of salt cod, smoked herring
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michael adams - 30 Jan 2007 10:26 GMT
> Before my grandma went senile, she used to put salt on her cornflakes.

Made with water, not that much different to putting salt on porridge made
with water I'd imagine. Which isn't that different to having salty things
in a sandwich. They're all only cereal products after all.

The likes of Sugar Frosties would be a differeent matter, obviously.

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> once as a mistake, but regula