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Car Forum / UK Car Forums / Car Maintenance (UK group) / July 2009

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Rover 25 front wheel noise

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Mark Spencer - 15 Jul 2009 14:22 GMT
I'd appreciate some pointers to locate a problem.

Rover 25, W Reg (~yr 2000), 3dr hatchback, 97k miles

Over the course of the last two weeks, a squeeking/squealing has developed
initially from the front driver side wheel but now also the front near-side
wheel. There is no noise for the first fifteen to twenty minutes of driving.
The noise is exacerbated or abates depending on the position of the steering
wheel and cornering. After a good 30 minutes driving, the noise has become
near continuous, particularly when driving above 50mph for that time. The
noise goes away under hard braking. The noise abates or changes volume or
pitch when feathering the brake pedal.

The first time these symptoms started, I was driving at speed on a long
journey and stopped the car. There was a terrible smell of burning from the
Driver side front wheel. The AA couldnt find a problem.

Could anyone suggest possible causes or help narrow these down before I
actually start work. I have little experience but have a Haynes Manual as a
guide once I know what the problem is.

Many thanks
Mark
Mrcheerful - 15 Jul 2009 15:10 GMT
> I'd appreciate some pointers to locate a problem.
>
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> Many thanks
> Mark

the calipers need to be stripped and rebuilt
Mark Spencer - 15 Jul 2009 17:49 GMT
>> I'd appreciate some pointers to locate a problem.
>>
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>
> the calipers need to be stripped and rebuilt

Many thanks, I'll try that.
Mark Spencer - 29 Jul 2009 16:41 GMT
I've stripped, cleaned and rebuilt the calipers and bled the front calipers
after assembly, following the Haynes manual. There's noticeably more travel
now on the brake pedal when braking, though braking is fine. Have I done
something wrong, or do I need to adjust the brakes somehow?

Many thanks
Mark

>> I'd appreciate some pointers to locate a problem.
>>
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>
> the calipers need to be stripped and rebuilt
Chris Whelan - 29 Jul 2009 18:48 GMT
> I've stripped, cleaned and rebuilt the calipers and bled the front
> calipers after assembly, following the Haynes manual. There's noticeably
> more travel now on the brake pedal when braking, though braking is fine.
> Have I done something wrong, or do I need to adjust the brakes somehow?

Assuming you re-used the old pads, did they go back in the original
positions?

If not, they may have to bed in; it might take a couple of days.

Chris

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Duncan Wood - 29 Jul 2009 20:47 GMT
>> I've stripped, cleaned and rebuilt the calipers and bled the front
>> calipers after assembly, following the Haynes manual. There's noticeably
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Chris

& rebleed the lot & readjust the handbrake. New rubber seals & dust boots  
are springier than old ones & quite often give you a little bit more  
travel than the old tired ones did.
Mark Spencer - 29 Jul 2009 21:29 GMT
>>> I've stripped, cleaned and rebuilt the calipers and bled the front
>>> calipers after assembly, following the Haynes manual. There's noticeably
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> are springier than old ones & quite often give you a little bit more
> travel than the old tired ones did.

>> Thanks Duncan. Re-bleed the whole system or just the front? I should
>> qualify the 'travel'... there's more travel on the brake pedal before the
>> brakes actually start to bite, rather thanmore travel under braking. Its
>> not quite that black and white actually, but that pretty much sums it up.
Duncan Wood - 29 Jul 2009 22:33 GMT
>>>> I've stripped, cleaned and rebuilt the calipers and bled the front
>>>> calipers after assembly, following the Haynes manual. There's  
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>>> braking. Its not quite that black and white actually, but that pretty  
>>> much sums it up.

Actualyy I'd readjust the handbrake, check brakes, rebleed front, check  
brakes & then bleed the rears if it still needed it, but as I said you'll  
probably have a little more travel with new caliper seals anyway.
Mark Spencer - 29 Jul 2009 21:24 GMT
>> I've stripped, cleaned and rebuilt the calipers and bled the front
>> calipers after assembly, following the Haynes manual. There's noticeably
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Chris

THanks Chris, yes they went in same positions.
Mrcheerful - 31 Jul 2009 15:43 GMT
>>> I've stripped, cleaned and rebuilt the calipers and bled the front
>>> calipers after assembly, following the Haynes manual. There's
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>> --
>> Remove prejudice to reply.

The calipers had a problem of not retracting before you took them to bits
(hence why the pads kept on touching, getting very hot and squeaking), after
the rebuild they will retract as they should, therefore you will have more
pedal travel than when they were faulty.  Assuming that the pedal is not
'spongy' in its feel and the travel is not excessive then there is no need
to worry.
 
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