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Car Forum / UK Car Forums / Car Modifications (UK group) / August 2004I appear to be the owner of a Celica ST185 GT4 :)
Hasn't got the same "Woosh, Ohmygod...." factor of the Saab, but the seats seem to suit me better, and it is loverly and smooth. Tax until end of December, MOT until june, no body damage, no rust, paint good except looks like a couple of supermarket carpark scrape type scratches, nothing serious. Dives great, but a little play (slight clonk, not big thud) at the rear on deceleration. Still still has the Toyota "For Life" bright red coolant. Going to change all the other fluids over the next couple of weeks as I get used to it. Makes full boost as it should. Has a Thatcham cat 1 alarm and imobiliser, with the certificate. Nothing messed with original 15" wheels, near new P7000's all round, full bunch of paper work from the 1st "Toyota approved used buyer" pdi check, right through to the last service. Only problems are, cloth interior, and aircon doesn't work (well winters near here, so I'll get some one to have a look as it looks like the fuse has been pulled as the switch doesn't work). H plate Celica GT4 4x4 turbo 137k miles, very near full service history. Any guesses to how much? He was selling it a few weeks ago for ?2300 but was getting messed arround. Had it advertised at ?2000 to move it. a)?2k as he won't budge after dropping ?300 to resell? b)?1900 because I was local and had cash? c)?1750 because I am the next Mike Brewer, and he was a BMW owning sucker who needed his drive back, and a 330 Coupe can't be cheap to have parked on the road? Prace bets now.....  SignatureCarl Robson (The poster formerly known as Skodapilot) http://www.bouncing-czechs.com > Hasn't got the same "Woosh, Ohmygod...." factor of the Saab, but the > seats seem to suit me better, and it is loverly and smooth. > Tax until end of December, MOT until june, no body damage, no rust, > paint good except looks like a couple of supermarket carpark scrape type > scratches, nothing serious. nice > Dives great, but a little play (slight clonk, not big thud) at the rear > on deceleration. probably the rear bushes? or anti roll bars? > Still still has the Toyota "For Life" bright red coolant. Going to > change all the other fluids over the next couple of weeks as I get used > to it. Makes full boost as it should. this stuff is meant to last 'for life' but most MR2 owners change it every 4-5 years with for life. > Has a Thatcham cat 1 alarm and imobiliser, with the certificate. > Nothing messed with original 15" wheels, near new P7000's all round, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > near here, so I'll get some one to have a look as it looks like the fuse > has been pulled as the switch doesn't work). air con can be pricy but worth fixing if you plan to re-sell as it'll shift it quicker. probably needs a re-gassing approx ?500 i think? > H plate Celica GT4 4x4 turbo 137k miles, very near full service history. > Any guesses to how much? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Prace bets now..... you got it for a steal as your a jammy git? ?1750? > you got it for a steal as your a jammy git? ?1750? I'm going to keep you in suspense for a little while until I get a few more answers in. SignatureCarl Robson (The poster formerly known as Skodapilot) http://www.bouncing-czechs.com >> you got it for a steal as your a jammy git? ?1750? >> > I'm going to keep you in suspense for a little while until I get a few > more answers in. Dunno, ?1750 sounds a little much to me as well, aircon will be silly money to fix, turbo is gonna be tired with that kinda mileage, clunk under de-celeration on a 4wd Jap sports car, thats gonna be expensive whatever it is! Although, they are an awesome car and i've always wanted one :) I woulda probly done the heart over head thing as well :) SignatureDan (formerly Dan405) > >> you got it for a steal as your a jammy git? £1750? > >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > is! Although, they are an awesome car and i've always wanted one :) I > woulda probly done the heart over head thing as well :) Vamp got it right first time. It's in bloody nice condition. Feels abit like a worn seirra when it does clonk, which it does rarely. I'm sure it's bush wear/movement rather than movement in the drivetrain itself. Will be getting it looked at, and if serious/expensive, I will flog it on beofre it goes much further but is a really nice car to drive. tyres are noisy though compared to the Avons on the Saab. SignatureThe poster formerly known as Skodapilot. http://www.bouncing-czechs.com > clunk under > de-celeration on a 4wd Jap sports car, thats gonna be expensive whatever it > is! Checked on the GT4OC site. common problem. usually occurs between 50 and 60k miles depending on abuse, mine has 136k. Part is about £109 only from Toyota, and is about an hours Labout to fit. SignatureThe poster formerly known as Skodapilot. http://www.bouncing-czechs.com >> Hasn't got the same "Woosh, Ohmygod...." factor of the Saab, but the >> seats seem to suit me better, and it is loverly and smooth. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >air con can be pricy but worth fixing if you plan to re-sell as it'll shift >it quicker. probably needs a re-gassing approx £500 i think? Might easily cost 500 quid, but a regas is more like 50, I guess you typoed? To test this, with the fuse on, compressor clutch engaged and so forth the compressor should be turning and pushing what gas there is around the system. If it is not particularly cold around the evaporator, a regas will enliven it (at least temporarily). If the compressor is seized, regas is pointless until that's been changed, and a first stab at the cost would be 500, perhaps. Fortunately there are good air con specialists who can tell you what's needed and do the work. >> a)£2k as he won't budge after dropping £300 to resell? >> b)£1900 because I was local and had cash? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >you got it for a steal as your a jammy git? £1750? I reckon 1900. For no particular reason. > Might easily cost 500 quid, but a regas is more like 50, I guess you > typoed? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > are good air con specialists who can tell you what's needed and do > the work... ...at SERIOUS cost. AirCon parts are silly money for "normal" cars, unless you get lucky and find some second hand bits. On top of that, they're usually VERY well integrated - changing the compressor is non-trivial on most cars (ie, Remove everything forward of the rear bumper. Exchange compressor. Reverse procedure). On top of all the above, it's likely to use the oldy "illegal" gas at that age, so you'd have to do the conversion thing. Multiply all the above statements by twelve, cos it's a Celica GT4 :) Not an option with leather, but you've got cloth seats - I'd just leave it dead, and pretend it has no AirCon ! > > Might easily cost 500 quid, but a regas is more like 50, I guess you > > typoed? [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Not an option with leather, but you've got cloth seats - I'd just leave it > dead, and pretend it has no AirCon ! If the fuse has been pulled, odds-on it's a seized compressor pump. Last one I priced up was for a 164 V6 at £600 plus VAT and fitting. However, I'd be more concerned about the fecked 4wd drivetrain if it's clunking from the rear. SignatureSteve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' http://www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - MZ ETZ300 VW Golf GL Cabrio - Alfa 75 TS - Alfa 155 TS Lusso - COSOC KOTL BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # > > > Might easily cost 500 quid, but a regas is more like 50, I guess you > > > typoed? [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > However, I'd be more concerned about the fecked 4wd drivetrain if it's > clunking from the rear. Quick update. Today this morning, just messing about with it, and playing with the fan controls. Suddenly the aircon kicks in, A/C and Econ buttons work, ad it is fecking cold. Seems to be working, I'll try it later when things warm up a bit. But weird how it wouldn't light up even yesterday. Wonder if it is just low on gas. And yes it was an R12 system, so it would need an update to R134A (yes I know that is fittings, oils, esters and filler valves. But why would it suddenly kick in, works on recirc and external draw in, but definaltey wasn't yesterday. Strange that, if the aircon does work, and he thought it didn't by some mysterious weird combo of switches and dials, I've got a bargain. As to the clonks. Not all the, only when backing off from high throttle to no throttle, like when going into a roundabout before shifting down, only does it once, doesn't clonk/bump continuosly like the Saab did on occasion. May get the dealer to price up the job, and then when I know what it needs, find an indy to sort it. SignatureCarl Robson (The poster formerly known as Skodapilot) http://www.bouncing-czechs.com >As to the clonks. Not all the, only when backing off from high throttle >to no throttle, like when going into a roundabout before shifting down, >only does it once, doesn't clonk/bump continuosly like the Saab did on >occasion. May get the dealer to price up the job, and then when I know >what it needs, find an indy to sort it. Subframe bushes? Or it could have poly bushes. these are known to transmit noises like this. Prop shaft UJ? -- Peter Hill Spamtrap reply domain as per NNTP-Posting-Host in header Can of worms - what every fisherman wants. Can of worms - what every PC owner gets! > Subframe bushes? Or it could have poly bushes. these are known to > transmit noises like this. > > Prop shaft UJ? That's what I'm thinking. Will get it looked at. Maybe one of the "jap performance" places that do so well in cheshire could have a looksee. SignatureThe poster formerly known as Skodapilot. http://www.bouncing-czechs.com > Subframe bushes? Turns out it looks like the rear diff centre bush (between diff and subframe). Part is about £109 only from Toyota, and is about an hours Labout to fit. SignatureThe poster formerly known as Skodapilot. http://www.bouncing-czechs.com > Part is about £109 only from Toyota, and is about an hours Labout to > fit. Found a guy in Austria who is producing solid Aluminium "bush and plate" replacements originally for motorsport, but getting popular on the road as they don't go saggy, only pass through a minimum ammount of extra diff noise and vibration (absolutley nothing extra over an aftermarket exhaust), but do away with the rubber entirely, and are more rigid being CNC'd alloy instead of steel pressed late. £10 cheaper including delivery, and about the same time fit as standard. They mount the diff a lot more rigidly (and will hold upto rally stresses) for 90k instead of the factory 60k of road miles. So better for 30k more of competition miles, than the road equivalent for the official part. Will have some of that then. Just need someone to fit it. SignatureThe poster formerly known as Skodapilot. http://www.bouncing-czechs.com > Today this morning, just messing about with it, and playing with the fan > controls. Suddenly the aircon kicks in, A/C and Econ buttons work, ad it [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > valves. But why would it suddenly kick in, works on recirc and external > draw in, but definaltey wasn't yesterday. You don't _have_ to upgrade, I'm stil running R12 in the BM and have a place that can re-gas it for me, although the gas itself is a lot more expensive than the equivalent amount of R134A. you'll have to see how much the upgrade will be and which is cheaper, I s'pose > You don't _have_ to upgrade, I'm stil running R12 in the BM and have a > place that can re-gas it for me, although the gas itself is a lot more > expensive than the equivalent amount of R134A. you'll have to see how > much the upgrade will be and which is cheaper, I s'pose Where abouts in the country? If it was close enough, I could look them up, and get them to give it a diagnosis. SignatureThe poster formerly known as Skodapilot. http://www.bouncing-czechs.com > > You don't _have_ to upgrade, I'm stil running R12 in the BM and have a > > place that can re-gas it for me, although the gas itself is a lot more [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > If it was close enough, I could look them up, and get them to give it a > diagnosis. Norwich. I'll dig the contact details out if that's close enough (don't know where you are). Congrats on the purchase by the way, I know only too well the headache of finding a car the wife approves of!! > Norwich. I'll dig the contact details out if that's close enough (don't > know where you are). Ah, nope, little far. Only been there once, and that was about a 4 hour journey, trying to keep in touch with lost relatives also on route. I'm in Warrington, Cheshire. Not a bad drive though, as long as you don't hit road works. SignatureThe poster formerly known as Skodapilot. http://www.bouncing-czechs.com > Norwich. I'll dig the contact details out if that's close enough (don't > know where you are). BTW, that would explain the use of R12 then, I've all sorts of slightly dodgy practices go on down in the fens. SignatureThe poster formerly known as Skodapilot. http://www.bouncing-czechs.com > a)?2k as he won't budge after dropping ?300 to resell? > b)?1900 because I was local and had cash? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Prace bets now..... Congrats. I am guessing C. You will be much happier with it than the Saab I bet. Fraser > > a)?2k as he won't budge after dropping ?300 to resell? > > b)?1900 because I was local and had cash? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Congrats. I am guessing C. You will be much happier with it than the Saab > I bet. I doubt much happier, I loved that Saab, just like my previously owned slow as hell Skodas. But I reckon I will love it as much. And the missus is happier too, I've finally found a car we both like, even if it is bigger engined than she wanted me to have, and older than she would have liked. But letting her have a little test run in it, she loves it too. SignatureCarl Robson (The poster formerly known as Skodapilot) http://www.bouncing-czechs.com Excellent news all up, congratulations. :p > Hasn't got the same "Woosh, Ohmygod...." factor of the Saab, but the > seats seem to suit me better, and it is loverly and smooth. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > near here, so I'll get some one to have a look as it looks like the fuse > has been pulled as the switch doesn't work). On the air conditioning, did he say when it last worked? If it's not worked for some time, it may be expensive to get it done, otherwise it might be prudent to get it regassed now...? > H plate Celica GT4 4x4 turbo 137k miles, very near full service history. > Any guesses to how much? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Prace bets now..... SignatureThe DervMan www.dervman.com > On the air conditioning, did he say when it last worked? If it's not worked > for some time, it may be expensive to get it done, otherwise it might be > prudent to get it regassed now...? I've looked through the reciept bundle, and it appears to have had a regas and test in 1995, and 1998. He said it hasn't worked while he had it, did get Toyota to price it up, was going get a 3rd party specialist to have a go, but didn't bother. It's an old R12 system, which means it might be expensive because R134A needs all sorts of changes, but if I can find somewhere that will use RS24, it is a drop in replacment for R12, so I can find out whether it needs any additional work after a dye/regas. SignatureCarl Robson (The poster formerly known as Skodapilot) http://www.bouncing-czechs.com > > On the air conditioning, did he say when it last worked? If it's not worked > > for some time, it may be expensive to get it done, otherwise it might be [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > R12, so I can find out whether it needs any additional work after a > dye/regas. Hopefully! A lot of peeps with R12 systems have not bothered to switch over, but then many are also still working - larger molecules, heh! :) SignatureThe DervMan www.dervman.com > > > On the air conditioning, did he say when it last worked? If it's not > worked [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Hopefully! A lot of peeps with R12 systems have not bothered to switch > over, but then many are also still working - larger molecules, heh! :) Aye, bigger stronger, colder. Much more dominant in the battle to come. ;) SignatureThe poster formerly known as Skodapilot. http://www.bouncing-czechs.com >> "MeatballTurbo" <carl.robson@bouncing-czechs.com> wrote in message >> > In article <2oscnuFe4rilU1@uni-berlin.de>, dervman@hotmail.com spouted [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Aye, bigger stronger, colder. Much more dominant in the battle to come. >;) Hmm, interesting... Sounds like it might work better than 134 as well. > >> "MeatballTurbo" <carl.robson@bouncing-czechs.com> wrote in message > >> > In article <2oscnuFe4rilU1@uni-berlin.de>, dervman@hotmail.com spouted [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Sounds like it might work better than 134 as well. It does, but it is also illegal, hence wanting to try a fill of RS24, or R314a which compatable, rather than going with the necessary changes to make R134a work, only to find the compressor is knackered. SignatureThe poster formerly known as Skodapilot. http://www.bouncing-czechs.com >> >> "MeatballTurbo" <carl.robson@bouncing-czechs.com> wrote in message >> >> > In article <2oscnuFe4rilU1@uni-berlin.de>, dervman@hotmail.com spouted [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >R314a which compatable, rather than going with the necessary changes to >make R134a work, only to find the compressor is knackered. Yeah, I know R12 is illegal and works well compared to R134a, I hadn't realised there were also alternatives to either, and if RS24 works as well as R12 and is a direct replacement for R134a, I can see an upgrade coming on. A colder air con system doesn't need to work for as long as a less cold one, in the sense of not having to pump the gas round as many times. This isn't violating conservation of energy, it's reducing inefficiencies I reckon. > RS24 works as well as R12 and is > a direct replacement for R134a, I think it is just a replacment to R12, not R134a. BTW, R314a is completly different to R134a, and is compatable with R12, like RS24 is. Difference being is that R314a and RS24 are pumped in as liquid rather than gas (like R12) but is RS24 is more comonly using in industrial chillers/fridge wagons, but is starting to get used in car aircon as it is compatable. SignatureThe poster formerly known as Skodapilot. http://www.bouncing-czechs.com You're going to have to come up with a new name now. Skodapilot, Meatballturbo, now what? > You're going to have to come up with a new name now. Skodapilot, > Meatballturbo, now what? Don't know, SushiRacer maybe? I'll think on it. SignatureThe poster formerly known as Skodapilot. http://www.bouncing-czechs.com > > You're going to have to come up with a new name now. Skodapilot, > > Meatballturbo, now what? > > > Don't know, SushiRacer maybe? I'll think on it. Riceboy? ;-) SignatureSteve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' http://www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - MZ ETZ300 VW Golf GL Cabrio - Alfa 75 TS - Alfa 155 TS Lusso - COSOC KOTL BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # > > > You're going to have to come up with a new name now. Skodapilot, > > > Meatballturbo, now what? > > > > > Don't know, SushiRacer maybe? I'll think on it. > > Riceboy? ;-) LOL, Nope, SushiRacer definatley has a touch more class about it. And I do quite like that. And that car won't ever go rice. Any mods (apart from amybe wheels and brakes maybe) will be under the skin apart from maybe a small TRD rear diffuser if I can locate one. The Standard body work and kit has some loverly angles that don't need messing with to startwith. And TRD stuff is factory approved anyway, so it more like Options than mods. Which I think is very cool. SignatureThe poster formerly known as Skodapilot. http://www.bouncing-czechs.com >> > > You're going to have to come up with a new name now. Skodapilot, >> > > Meatballturbo, now what? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > And TRD stuff is factory approved anyway, so it more like Options than > mods. Which I think is very cool. Yea, even on lesser vehicles, such as *spit* Vauxhalls, if i was doing body mods, i'd only use dealer fit type accessories (Irmscher, Nismo or whatever). SignatureDan (formerly Dan405) >> > > You're going to have to come up with a new name now. Skodapilot, >> > > Meatballturbo, now what? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > And TRD stuff is factory approved anyway, so it more like Options than > mods. Which I think is very cool. My mate scored a full carbon fibre nose cone for his that came from the Swedish rally team via a rally shop here in Perth. The whole thing weighed about 400 grams. He had someone pull out in front of him and he T-Boned them. He said there was carbon fibre for a 50 metre radius. Suffice to say insurance didn't buy him a new carbon fibre nose cone. He was gutted. Fraser |
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