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Car Forum / UK Car Forums / Car Modifications (UK group) / September 2007

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Doki - 23 Sep 2007 21:52 GMT
The golf is leaking from the sunroof and on the passenger door. I suspect
the pass door is down to too much water trying to get out of too small a set
of drain holes when I hammer the window with a pumped hose, but the sunroof
has me a bit stumped. Suppose it could be far enough out of line to allow
far too much water in for the drains to deal with - they're not blocked.
Vamp - 23 Sep 2007 22:27 GMT
> The golf is leaking from the sunroof and on the passenger door. I suspect
> the pass door is down to too much water trying to get out of too small a
> set of drain holes when I hammer the window with a pumped hose, but the
> sunroof has me a bit stumped. Suppose it could be far enough out of line
> to allow far too much water in for the drains to deal with - they're not
> blocked.

you get all the luck it just aint fair! :)
Dave Plowman (News) - 23 Sep 2007 22:41 GMT
> The golf is leaking from the sunroof and on the passenger door. I
> suspect the pass door is down to too much water trying to get out of
> too small a set of drain holes when I hammer the window with a pumped
> hose, but the sunroof has me a bit stumped. Suppose it could be far
> enough out of line to allow far too much water in for the drains to
> deal with - they're not blocked.

If it's like some others the drain hoses are simply a push fit and can
leak where they push on. The drains should be able to cope with any water
that gets past the roof - even with a non existent seal on the roof itself.

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Doki - 24 Sep 2007 17:45 GMT
>> The golf is leaking from the sunroof and on the passenger door. I
>> suspect the pass door is down to too much water trying to get out of
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> that gets past the roof - even with a non existent seal on the roof
> itself.

I'll get the seal lined up and pray. Then when I've got time and inclination
I'll rod the drain hoses and make sure they're running clear.
Dave Plowman (News) - 24 Sep 2007 20:01 GMT
> > If it's like some others the drain hoses are simply a push fit and can
> > leak where they push on. The drains should be able to cope with any
> > water that gets past the roof - even with a non existent seal on the
> > roof itself.

> I'll get the seal lined up and pray. Then when I've got time and
> inclination I'll rod the drain hoses and make sure they're running
> clear.

Be gentle. They're usually just plain rubber rather than reinforced so
could easily be damaged. If you can get at the bottom ends I'd try blowing
through them with something like the output from a vacuum cleaner. Not
high pressure air. ;-)

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Carl Gibbs - 24 Sep 2007 21:55 GMT
> The golf is leaking from the sunroof and on the passenger door. I suspect
> the pass door is down to too much water trying to get out of too small a
> set of drain holes when I hammer the window with a pumped hose, but the
> sunroof has me a bit stumped. Suppose it could be far enough out of line
> to allow far too much water in for the drains to deal with - they're not
> blocked.
I've had similar problems on the BX and the SD1.  Water was draining out of
the sunroof drains, but the inside of the car was still getting wet.  The BX
was caused by a partially blocked rear tube (parking under a tree at our old
flat filled it up with crap).  I found a long bit of curtain wire (the stuff
you hang up net curtains with) worked a treat as it was flexible enough to
get round the bends and not damage the pipe, but also rigid enough that it
would push through the crap.  Running a load of hot soapy water through the
drains afterwards seemed to help get the last bit of crap out.

I assumed a similar problem with the SD1, but there was no blockage at all.
I dropped the headling at the back of the car and looked above with a torch
and discovered on of the rear drains had come loose causing it to weep, so
was just a case of squeezing my hand up through and pushing the pipe back
on, and now all is well (well the windscreen still leaks, but thats another
story).
Dave Plowman (News) - 25 Sep 2007 00:21 GMT
> I assumed a similar problem with the SD1, but there was no blockage at
> all. I dropped the headling at the back of the car and looked above
> with a torch and discovered on of the rear drains had come loose
> causing it to weep, so was just a case of squeezing my hand up through
> and pushing the pipe back on, and now all is well (well the windscreen
> still leaks, but thats another story).

The other trick on the SD1 is the rear hoses can get pushed up so they
exit in the boot. ;-) The fronts can also get unplugged where they come
through the footwell sides.

As regards the windscreen you'll never bodge seal it. Remove it - if it's
leaking the glue has failed anyway and it should come out without trouble
and replace using modern glue.

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Carl Gibbs - 25 Sep 2007 07:39 GMT
>> I assumed a similar problem with the SD1, but there was no blockage at
>> all. I dropped the headling at the back of the car and looked above
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> leaking the glue has failed anyway and it should come out without trouble
> and replace using modern glue.

Well I've fixed the passenger side, it's just the drivers side that's still
leaking a bit.  I'm gonna have one more go with the sealant as I think I
know where it's getting in. If not the windscreen will be coming out
Dave Plowman (News) - 25 Sep 2007 09:28 GMT
> > As regards the windscreen you'll never bodge seal it. Remove it - if
> > it's leaking the glue has failed anyway and it should come out without
> > trouble and replace using modern glue.

> Well I've fixed the passenger side, it's just the drivers side that's
> still leaking a bit.  I'm gonna have one more go with the sealant as I
> think I know where it's getting in. If not the windscreen will be
> coming out

I wish you luck. I tried Captain Tolley's and silicone and never got it
leak free. If you look carefully you can see where the original Sorbit has
failed. And the screen will move slightly between adhesive and glass which
makes neat sealing near impossible.

After new screens back and front and removing and re-sealing the '6th'
lights, some work on the taillights and name strip at the back, I have a
totally leak free SD1. Probably unique. ;-)

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