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Car Forum / UK Car Forums / Car Modifications (UK group) / May 2008I'm sorry, have I missed some posts somewhere
or has Dan really gone and swapped a mid-engined, rear wheel drive, 6 cylinder hardcore french shopping trolley for a production line clio? Did you need the room for the shopping or the school run? Were you eager for us to take the piss at every opportunity? What is the world coming to? > or has Dan really gone and swapped a mid-engined, rear wheel drive, 6 > cylinder hardcore french shopping trolley for a production line clio? Did > you need the room for the shopping or the school run? Were you eager for > us to take the piss at every opportunity? Did you consider that I didn't give a f.ck what some people in an internet newsgroup thought :-) ?  SignatureDan Clio V6 "DanB" <iridiumdan@googlemail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >> or has Dan really gone and swapped a mid-engined, rear wheel drive, 6 >> cylinder hardcore french shopping trolley for a production line clio? >> Did you need the room for the shopping or the school run? Were you >> eager for us to take the piss at every opportunity? > Did you consider that I didn't give a f.ck what some people in an > internet newsgroup thought :-) ? <wince> That's a bite, Tim... > "DanB" <iridiumdan@googlemail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like > they were saying: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > <wince> That's a bite, Tim... Hehe it totally was. I have to go get my scan results today, I'm a little edgey :-) SignatureDan Clio R27 #65 > I have to go get my scan results today, I'm a little > edgey :-) I can understand that. Can you let us know if it's a boy or a girl? >> "DanB" <iridiumdan@googlemail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much >> like they were saying: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Hehe it totally was. I have to go get my scan results today, I'm a > little edgey :-) Didn't realise you were pregnant! >>> "DanB" <iridiumdan@googlemail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much >>> like they were saying: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Didn't realise you were pregnant! Heh, I wish that were the (bizarre) case. Turns out, my preperation for 'the worst' was necessary. D'oh. The worst been pretty much what it sounds like. SignatureDan Clio R27 F1 #65 > Heh, I wish that were the (bizarre) case. Turns out, my preperation for > 'the worst' was necessary. D'oh. The worst been pretty much what it > sounds like. Oh, arse. How long? - and who'll get the car? :-P SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Ducati 750SS - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 Alfa 75 TSpark - Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE >> Heh, I wish that were the (bizarre) case. Turns out, my preperation for >> 'the worst' was necessary. D'oh. The worst been pretty much what it [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > How long? - and who'll get the car? I don't know, depends on some factors, and my mum probably hehe :-p SignatureDan Clio R27 F1 #65 >> Heh, I wish that were the (bizarre) case. Turns out, my preperation for >> 'the worst' was necessary. D'oh. The worst been pretty much what it [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > How long? - and who'll get the car? Someone who appreciates its "qualities" :-) Signature"For want of the price of tea and a slice, the old man died." > >> Heh, I wish that were the (bizarre) case. Turns out, my preperation for > >> 'the worst' was necessary. D'oh. The worst been pretty much what it [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Someone who appreciates its "qualities" :-) Yeah, like he said, his mum. Ideal woman's shopping cart. SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Ducati 750SS - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 Alfa 75 TSpark - Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE >>>> "DanB" <iridiumdan@googlemail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much >>>> like they were saying: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > for 'the worst' was necessary. D'oh. The worst been pretty much > what it sounds like. Not good. Should have kept the V on slicks and added some turbos and nitrous???? > Turns out, my preperation for 'the worst' was necessary. Ouch, I'm sorry to hear it. Trade the Clio in for a Corvette YKIMS, in fact a sensible move, trade it in for Musbishitti VR4 or Legnum. > D'oh. The worst been pretty much what it sounds like. You're going to have to wrestle naked with John McCririck? >> Turns out, my preperation for 'the worst' was necessary. > > Ouch, I'm sorry to hear it. Trade the Clio in for a Corvette YKIMS, in > fact a sensible move, trade it in for Musbishitti VR4 or Legnum. Heh! First thing my brother said was, "Keep the Clio for a week and get a 911 - Grandad will give you the rest of the coin" :-) I have a real serious fetish for BMW Z4M Coupes though, so given the choice it'd have to be one of them. SignatureDan Clio R27 F1 #65 > I have a real serious fetish for BMW Z4M Coupes though, so given the choice > it'd have to be one of them. Ewwww. Mind you a Z1 would be good in a hairdressery sort of way. >>> Turns out, my preperation for 'the worst' was necessary. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I have a real serious fetish for BMW Z4M Coupes though, so given the > choice it'd have to be one of them. Eww ewwwww w ww wwwww wwww. SignatureThe DervMan www.dervman.com >>> Turns out, my preperation for 'the worst' was necessary. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I have a real serious fetish for BMW Z4M Coupes though, so given the > choice it'd have to be one of them. Your brother has the right idea. Every petrolhead should have a big accident once in their driving life, and you didn't keep the Vee long enough. >>> Turns out, my preperation for 'the worst' was necessary. >> Ouch, I'm sorry to hear it. Trade the Clio in for a Corvette YKIMS, in [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I have a real serious fetish for BMW Z4M Coupes though, so given the choice > it'd have to be one of them. I'll come out in defence of the Z4M Coupe. Like a modern-day MGB GT V8. But much faster. You can always cover the badges in tape. Richard > >>> "DanB" <iridiumdan@googlemail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much > >>> like they were saying: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > 'the worst' was necessary. D'oh. The worst been pretty much what it sounds > like. You gottoa do that road trip. Or maybe persuade the V's new owner to do a Gumball with you are co- pilot. SignatureCarl Robson Audio stream: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com:8000/samtest Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com >> >>> "DanB" <iridiumdan@googlemail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much >> >>> like they were saying: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Or maybe persuade the V's new owner to do a Gumball with you are co- > pilot. The ring and the island are occuring very soon :) As soon as I get the R27 from the dealership. See I wouldn't have enjoyed those half as much in the Vee because I could drive much more 'spiritedly' in the R27 as it's just so much more capable and confidence inspiring. SignatureDan Clio R27 F1 #65 > as it's just so > much more capable and confidence inspiring. They aren't the same thing you know. An aircooled 911 is capable, but will kill the those not so confident. SignatureCarl Robson Audio stream: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com:8000/samtest Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com >> as it's just so >> much more capable and confidence inspiring. >> > They aren't the same thing you know. > An aircooled 911 is capable, but will kill the those not so confident. "DAN!!" >> as it's just so >> much more capable and confidence inspiring. >> > They aren't the same thing you know. > An aircooled 911 is capable, but will kill the those not so confident. I said it was much more capable than the Vee, which it is, anyone that drove both, even SteveH and TSK would admit that. SignatureDan Clio R27 F1 #65 >>> as it's just so >>> much more capable and confidence inspiring. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I said it was much more capable than the Vee, which it is, anyone that > drove both, even SteveH and TSK would admit that. SportAuto did an 8:49 ring time in 2001 in a Vee. The only standard front drive cars with a faster recorded time are the Integra R at 8:43 and the Civic R at 8:47. Some MTM tuned VW thing got a lot quicker but had c. 300 bhp. >>>> as it's just so >>>> much more capable and confidence inspiring. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Civic R at 8:47. Some MTM tuned VW thing got a lot quicker but had c. 300 > bhp. To be fair though, the ring is hugely about big power as there is so many long straight - and you'd be smacking the limiter in 6th at 141 in the 197. Whereas the Vee would give you a terrifying 155-160. Yes I know the top speed on paper is 150 but allegedly 155gps is easy... SignatureDan Clio R27 F1 #65 >>>> "DanB" <iridiumdan@googlemail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much >>>> like they were saying: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > 'the worst' was necessary. D'oh. The worst been pretty much what it > sounds like. sh.t, that blows big time :( But why chop in the Vee? The only reason should be to buy something even more stupid. Like a 3 month trip to Amsterdam, with all the trimmings!! >> Heh, I wish that were the (bizarre) case. Turns out, my preperation for >> 'the worst' was necessary. D'oh. The worst been pretty much what it [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > But why chop in the Vee? The only reason should be to buy something even > more stupid. Like a 3 month trip to Amsterdam, with all the trimmings!! I thought the point of the Vee was to significantly increase the chances of that particular "worst" being unlikely to happen. So I'm agreeing with Carl here :-) (btw forgot to mention I've got brembo disks too. Plain unvented ones, but they did have the name on :-) ) cheers, clive > (btw forgot to mention I've got brembo disks too. Plain unvented ones, but > they did have the name on :-) ) Even the shite old 75 has Brembo brakes. SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Ducati 750SS - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 Alfa 75 TSpark - Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE >>>>> "DanB" <iridiumdan@googlemail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much >>>>> like they were saying: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > But why chop in the Vee? The only reason should be to buy something even > more stupid. Like a 3 month trip to Amsterdam, with all the trimmings!! Yea I am planning on doing such things too :-) I chopped the Vee because they're not actually that fun to drive, as the chassis is so edgey and knife-edge you daren't really push it, and when you do, it bites you. The R27 is so, so much more fun to hurl down a back road. Tiff Needell described it as "Close to hot hatch perfection" on the 5th gear review vs the Corsa VXR (available on YouTube for any doubters). I must admit though, it all seems a bit pointless after today heh. SignatureDan Clio R27 F1 #65 >>>>>> "DanB" <iridiumdan@googlemail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much >>>>>> like they were saying: [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > described it as "Close to hot hatch perfection" on the 5th gear review vs > the Corsa VXR (available on YouTube for any doubters). Fairy snuff. After a bit of googling, these new fangled clio thingys dont look too bad. I would have still kept the Vee though :) I must admit though, > it all seems a bit pointless after today heh. f.ck that mate, enjoy it to the max! > Heh, I wish that were the (bizarre) case. Turns out, my preperation for > 'the worst' was necessary. D'oh. The worst been pretty much what it sounds > like. Bad sh.t, brother. Victories against you at blow-football will seem all the more hollow from now on. Still, got your tickets booked to go to the 'Ring in the new Clio? SignatureDouglas > >>> "DanB" <iridium...@googlemail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much > >>> like they were saying: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > 'the worst' was necessary. D'oh. The worst been pretty much what it sounds > like. Bummer, dude. Re: The 197... I can see the point - I've been driving my mates 106 GTi around recently and loving it, and I believe the 197 is supposed to be the same sort of driving experience, so bring it on. :-) If we end up at a meet in the near future, CIHAGM? (1) (1) I appreciate a go in the Passat in return is probably not all that much of an incentive, but I'm hoping I might be able to persuade the mate with the Skyline engined 200SX to come along as well, and that thing is *rapid* (2) :-D (2) ...and likely to be even quicker once it's had the impending single turbo conversion. -- JackH On 23 May, 19:42, "DanB" <iridium...@googlemail.com> wrote: > "Tim S Kemp" <n...@DONTSPAMMEtimkemp.karoo.co.uk> wrote in > messagenews:kpidnS3j65FIlqrVnZ2dnUVZ8szinZ2d@eclipse.net.uk... [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > 'the worst' was necessary. D'oh. The worst been pretty much what it sounds > like. Bummer, dude. Re: The 197... I can see the point - I've been driving my mates 106 GTi around recently and loving it, and I believe the 197 is supposed to be the same sort of driving experience, so bring it on. :-) If we end up at a meet in the near future, CIHAGM? (1) (1) I appreciate a go in the Passat in return is probably not all that much of an incentive, but I'm hoping I might be able to persuade the mate with the Skyline engined 200SX to come along as well, and that thing is *rapid* (2) :-D (2) ...and likely to be even quicker once it's had the impending single turbo conversion. *((******************************************************* Of course, you gotta be careful though :-) SignatureDan Clio R27 F1 #65 > <jackhacket...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > If we end up at a meet in the near future, CIHAGM? (1) > Of course, you gotta be careful though :-) But of course... ;-) -- JackH > Re: The 197... I can see the point - I've been driving my mates 106 > GTi around recently and loving it, In the sense that the fuel gauge doesn't go down as quick as the Clio did? > (1) I appreciate a go in the Passat in return is probably not all that > much of an incentive, but I'm hoping I might be able to persuade the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > (2) ...and likely to be even quicker once it's had the impending > single turbo conversion. OO-err. SignatureConor I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. - Scott Adams >>>>> Did you consider that I didn't give a f.ck what some people in an >>>>> internet newsgroup thought :-) ? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > 'the worst' was necessary. D'oh. The worst been pretty much what it sounds > like. Bugger. Sorry to hear that dude. Mind you, at least you have time to use up the remaining license points, surely? > "DanB" <iridiumdan@googlemail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like > they were saying: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > <wince> That's a bite, Tim... Hook... line.... >> or has Dan really gone and swapped a mid-engined, rear wheel drive, 6 >> cylinder hardcore french shopping trolley for a production line clio? Did [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Did you consider that I didn't give a f.ck what some people in an internet > newsgroup thought :-) ? Too right - too many people buy cars to impress online contacts rather than it's because it is what they want... SignatureThe DervMan www.dervman.com > Too right - too many people buy cars to impress online contacts rather > than it's because it is what they want... And it's not worked for me either :-( Though I don't know quite who would be impressed by a beat up red bx. (yeah - Dan's brakes may be painted red - but my whole car is, so that must be better!) cheers, clive > > Too right - too many people buy cars to impress online contacts rather > > than it's because it is what they want... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > (yeah - Dan's brakes may be painted red - but my whole car is, so that must > be better!) The Ducati has more trick 'named' bits bolted to it than anything else on here, though :-P SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Ducati 750SS - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 Alfa 75 TSpark - Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE > > > Too right - too many people buy cars to impress online contacts rather > > > than it's because it is what they want... [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > The Ducati has more trick 'named' bits bolted to it than anything else > on here, though :-P APC, BCV, DI, ABS, SID, ECU Thats a few for a fairly simple car. SignatureCarl Robson Audio stream: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com:8000/samtest Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com > > The Ducati has more trick 'named' bits bolted to it than anything else > > on here, though :-P > > > APC, BCV, DI, ABS, SID, ECU > Thats a few for a fairly simple car. Brakes and suspension are by Brembo, Ohlins and Showa. (twin) carbs are Mikunis and valves are Desmodromic, to avoid valve float. SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Ducati 750SS - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 Alfa 75 TSpark - Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE > > > The Ducati has more trick 'named' bits bolted to it than anything else > > > on here, though :-P [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Brakes and suspension are by Brembo, Ohlins and Showa. (twin) carbs are > Mikunis and valves are Desmodromic, to avoid valve float. You win ;) Although I did always like Italian bikes. Always had this perverse want for a Moto Guzzi California. Simply because it looked like a Chips bike. No other sensible reason. The noise Laverdas make is fantabulous too. SignatureCarl Robson Audio stream: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com:8000/samtest Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com >> > > The Ducati has more trick 'named' bits bolted to it than anything >> > > else [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > for a Moto Guzzi California. Simply because it looked like a Chips bike. > No other sensible reason. The noise Laverdas make is fantabulous too. The Vee has (although it's just gone so had....) AP Racing brakes, Eibach springs, Koni Red shocks, OZ wheels, Porsche tuned heads :-) The R27 has Recaro seats, Brembo brakes... D'oh :-) SignatureDan Clio R27 F1 #65 >>>>> The Ducati has more trick 'named' bits bolted to it than anything >>>>> else [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > The R27 has Recaro seats, Brembo brakes... D'oh :-) No recaros in the vee? >>>>>> The Ducati has more trick 'named' bits bolted to it than anything >>>>>> else [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > No recaros in the vee? No, just the Renault Sport seats from the 172. SignatureDan Clio R27 F1 #65 >> or has Dan really gone and swapped a mid-engined, rear wheel drive, 6 >> cylinder hardcore french shopping trolley for a production line clio? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Did you consider that I didn't give a f.ck what some people in an > internet newsgroup thought :-) ? Met a bloke today in Hastings who has a Megane F1. Asked him if was any good, he grinned and said "It seems to glide across tarmac when you give it some, but it doesn't half f.cking handle, it's better cross country than that, and faster", and pointed to a new shape V8 M3 in one of his garages. Seemed well impressed with it. Until he said "But I really wanted a Focus ST, as that is faster again, but the Ford dealer was a tit". Multi-multi millionaire, so he could have bought both, but he loved the Megane. I hope Dan likes his Clio as much, because this blokes grin didn't say "Shopping trolley" in the least. SignaturePete M - OMF#9 Range Rover V8 Turbo Range Rover 4.6 HSE "Professional Petrolhead" >>> or has Dan really gone and swapped a mid-engined, rear wheel drive, 6 >>> cylinder hardcore french shopping trolley for a production line clio? [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Megane. I hope Dan likes his Clio as much, because this blokes grin didn't > say "Shopping trolley" in the least. In the latest Autocar, there is a 'drivers car of the year' awards, and the Megane was only 0.2seconds behind a Supercharged elise round some road bit of Millbrook. They are truely epic, about 4 seconds faster than the Focus ST round Bedford as well... The Clio handles almost as well - but just lacks a bit of the Meg's grunt. Although it's so much more fun to drive than the Vee, because it handles so well and the engine is so willing to be cained. It's strange how a lot of people here think they have the first clue about either as as far as I'm aware no one in here has driven either of them heh. Ok, I know that's the done thing in here, to take a personal bias as fact, but just choosing the Vee because it was RWD is very narrowminded, especially when you take into account the rep they have for such a dodgy chassis. The thing that made it so much fun was the pose value and almost supercar like way other people viewed it, but that got boring because, as PeteM understood, it was just crap at the B road blast. SignatureDan Clio R27 F1 #65 > Ok, I know that's the done thing in here, to take a personal bias > as fact, but just choosing the Vee because it was RWD is very narrowminded, > especially when you take into account the rep they have for such a dodgy > chassis. The thing that made it so much fun was the pose value and almost > supercar like way other people viewed it, but that got boring because, as > PeteM understood, it was just crap at the B road blast. A bad workman always blames his tools ;-) Seriously, with that kind of cash burning a hole in my pocket, there is absolutely no way I'd have bought a FWD supermini. SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Ducati 750SS - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 Alfa 75 TSpark - Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE >> Ok, I know that's the done thing in here, to take a personal bias >> as fact, but just choosing the Vee because it was RWD is very [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Seriously, with that kind of cash burning a hole in my pocket, there is > absolutely no way I'd have bought a FWD supermini. But, it's my choice :-) SignatureDan Clio R27 F1 #65 >> Ok, I know that's the done thing in here, to take a personal bias >> as fact, but just choosing the Vee because it was RWD is very [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Seriously, with that kind of cash burning a hole in my pocket, there is > absolutely no way I'd have bought a FWD supermini. FWD repmobile instead? :) >> Ok, I know that's the done thing in here, to take a personal bias >> as fact, but just choosing the Vee because it was RWD is very [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Seriously, with that kind of cash burning a hole in my pocket, there is > absolutely no way I'd have bought a FWD supermini. Ding. That's exactly what Dan is on about. I had a go to explain to a Usenet regular in a Pontefract wine bar* yesterday that changing from a mid engined Clio V6 to a front engined Clio would make it more fun. It was all lost, because said gentleman stated that it remained a French Clio... *ahem SignatureThe DervMan www.dervman.com > I had a go to explain to a Usenet regular in a Pontefract wine bar* > yesterday that changing from a mid engined Clio V6 to a front engined > Clio would make it more fun. It was all lost, because said gentleman > stated that it remained a French Clio... > > *ahem " " >> Ok, I know that's the done thing in here, to take a personal bias >> as fact, but just choosing the Vee because it was RWD is very [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Seriously, with that kind of cash burning a hole in my pocket, there > is absolutely no way I'd have bought a FWD supermini. Erm, weren't your 33s smaller than the current clio, lighter than the current clio, less powerful than the current clio and front wheel drive? ISTR you hat two of the infernal machines. And replaced them with heavy tipos. >>> Ok, I know that's the done thing in here, to take a personal bias >>> as fact, but just choosing the Vee because it was RWD is very [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > ISTR you hat two of the infernal machines. And replaced them with heavy > tipos. I firmly beleive that if you all took the time, went out an test drove a Cup packed 197 - put aside your prejudices (sp?) and just gave them a good thrashing - there is NO ONE here that wouldn't get back to the dealership with a big daft grin on their faces having really enjoyed it - whether you'd admit it or not. The only thing I struggled with was not changing gear at 6krpm heh, but letting it wind right round to the shift light at 7,400ish - because the Vee was due a gear change at about 6,250. SignatureDan Clio R27 F1 #65 >>>> Ok, I know that's the done thing in here, to take a personal bias >>>> as fact, but just choosing the Vee because it was RWD is very [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > gear at 6krpm heh, but letting it wind right round to the shift light at > 7,400ish - because the Vee was due a gear change at about 6,250. Yes but you took the soft option. Wimp. >>>> Ok, I know that's the done thing in here, to take a personal bias >>>> as fact, but just choosing the Vee because it was RWD is very [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > gear at 6krpm heh, but letting it wind right round to the shift light at > 7,400ish - because the Vee was due a gear change at about 6,250. Why don't we met up somewhere and we can all have a go in yours? :) I know what you're talking about though - Nat's 106, although lacking in power, is fantastic fun to throw about. In fact IIRC Clarkson (and Tiff I think) voted the 106 GTi the best car in the world ever, or something like that, due to it's go kart like handling. However I still prefer driving the SD1, even if it is slower round the corners (and potentially slower in a straight line too), just because it feels right. Powering off a roundabout with a massive V8 sound track and the back hanging out is brilliant, even if it's a little death-inducing in the wet. OK, the Vee is probably a little more scary than the SD1, but based on my extensive knowledge of both models I don't think I could have traded it in. I would have made Nat buy the R27 instead so I could play in both :D But, horse for courses, and all that - you just have fun me lad! >>>>> Ok, I know that's the done thing in here, to take a personal bias >>>>> as fact, but just choosing the Vee because it was RWD is very [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >> > Why don't we met up somewhere and we can all have a go in yours? :) You're welcome for a go :-) Although I'm not letting any of the serial crashers in here have a shot hehe. They're obviously a bit unskilled ;-) SignatureDan Clio R27 F1 #65 >>>>>> Ok, I know that's the done thing in here, to take a personal bias >>>>>> as fact, but just choosing the Vee because it was RWD is very [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > You're welcome for a go :-) Although I'm not letting any of the serial > crashers in here have a shot hehe. They're obviously a bit unskilled ;-) Errrrm, I've written off 2 french 'warm' hatches in my time, although that was a few years ago now :) >>>>>> Ok, I know that's the done thing in here, to take a personal bias >>>>>> as fact, but just choosing the Vee because it was RWD is very [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > serial crashers in here have a shot hehe. They're obviously a bit > unskilled ;-) Serial crashers - none of those around here >> You're welcome for a go :-) Although I'm not letting any of the >> serial crashers in here have a shot hehe. They're obviously a bit >> unskilled ;-) > > Serial crashers - none of those around here Ah yes, only serial crashed intos eh? (c: SignatureDouglas > > Seriously, with that kind of cash burning a hole in my pocket, there > > is absolutely no way I'd have bought a FWD supermini. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > ISTR you hat two of the infernal machines. And replaced them with heavy > tipos. Whilst this is true, the value of both our 33s plus the 2 modded Tipos is less than half the price of a modded French girlie shopping cart :-P SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Ducati 750SS - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 Alfa 75 TSpark - Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE >> > Seriously, with that kind of cash burning a hole in my pocket, there >> > is absolutely no way I'd have bought a FWD supermini. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Whilst this is true, the value of both our 33s plus the 2 modded Tipos > is less than half the price of a modded French girlie shopping cart :-P Modded? SignatureDan Clio R27 F1 #65 > Whilst this is true, the value of both our 33s plus the 2 modded Tipos > is less than half the price of a modded French girlie shopping cart > :-P And the iron content is less than half of a modded French girlie shopping cart, in yellow. > but just choosing the Vee because it was RWD is very narrowminded, > especially when you take into account the rep they have for such a > dodgy chassis. The thing that made it so much fun was the pose value > and almost supercar like way other people viewed it, but that got > boring because, as PeteM understood, it was just crap at the B road > blast. Setup. All they need is the right setup and you drive them a bit like a 911, in late on the brakes to kill the understeer then shift the weight to the rear using a carefully modulated right foot. As an everyday car they have mor big issues than Birmingham New Street but rear drive is what makes it worthwhile. >> but just choosing the Vee because it was RWD is very narrowminded, >> especially when you take into account the rep they have for such a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > As an everyday car they have mor big issues than Birmingham New Street but > rear drive is what makes it worthwhile. The Vee didn't have the right set up though heh, and didn't have the options to make the setup anygood really. Roll oversteer is a bit scary. SignatureDan Clio R27 F1 #65 > The Vee didn't have the right set up though heh, and didn't have the > options to make the setup anygood really. Roll oversteer is a bit > scary. Indeed but counterable with a bootful of throttle! >> The Vee didn't have the right set up though heh, and didn't have the >> options to make the setup anygood really. Roll oversteer is a bit >> scary. > > Indeed but counterable with a bootful of throttle! In ideal circumstances. In less than ideal circumstances you go from roll oversteer to power on oversteer to a tree. It's the same reason why me running a 911 3.3 Turbo from the mid to late 80s is a very bad idea indeed. If you brake in a corner, you get oversteer. Shoot if you lift off, you get oversteer. If you apply too much power, you get a delayed oversteery action. It's nice and stable as the turbochargers spool up of course. :) All of the above assumes you were going in too hard or trying to come out too hard. And I don't see the point in buying a 911 if you're not going to try this some of the time. Solution? Boxster. Meh. SignatureThe DervMan www.dervman.com > It's the same reason why me running a 911 3.3 Turbo from the mid to late 80s Which is exactly the one I have always lusted after. SignatureCarl Robson Audio stream: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com:8000/samtest Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com >> The Vee didn't have the right set up though heh, and didn't have the >> options to make the setup anygood really. Roll oversteer is a bit >> scary. > > Indeed but counterable with a bootful of throttle! In a Clio V6? I'd love to film that with you trying it in someone elses Vee hehe :-) SignatureDan Clio R27 F1 #65 >>> The Vee didn't have the right set up though heh, and didn't have the >>> options to make the setup anygood really. Roll oversteer is a bit [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > In a Clio V6? I'd love to film that with you trying it in someone > elses Vee hehe :-) Indeed, as long as you know the oversteer can be cured with a shift of weight to the rear the right pedal is the way forwards. >>>> The Vee didn't have the right set up though heh, and didn't have the >>>> options to make the setup anygood really. Roll oversteer is a bit [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Indeed, as long as you know the oversteer can be cured with a shift of > weight to the rear the right pedal is the way forwards. I guarantee if you tried that in the Vee - you'd crash :-) SignatureDan Clio R27 F1 #65 >>>>> The Vee didn't have the right set up though heh, and didn't have the >>>>> options to make the setup anygood really. Roll oversteer is a bit [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> > I guarantee if you tried that in the Vee - you'd crash :-) I'm not so sure, I've seen Tim driving a variety of powerful rear wheel drive machines on a wet racing track and he didn't spin out too many times. Actually, correction. I span the 350Z near-constantly. Tim didn't. Tim span the 911 near-constantly. I didn't. Our mileage varied. :) SignatureThe DervMan www.dervman.com >> I guarantee if you tried that in the Vee - you'd crash :-) > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Actually, correction. I span the 350Z near-constantly. Tim didn't. Tim > span the 911 near-constantly. I didn't. Our mileage varied. :) I was faster than you in everything where power to weight ratio didn't matter though. And the 911s, it was throwing down with rain, and wet grass on a tight track with 10 911s out was never going to be good, especially when entry speed into the first left after the main straight was 90mph.... I seem to remember me breaking a clio cup though... >>> I guarantee if you tried that in the Vee - you'd crash :-) >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > track with 10 911s out was never going to be good, especially when entry > speed into the first left after the main straight was 90mph.... It was good for me! :) > I seem to remember me breaking a clio cup though... I do remember you videoing me nearly dumping a sliding 350Z into the viewing area. SignatureThe DervMan www.dervman.com >>> The Vee didn't have the right set up though heh, and didn't have the >>> options to make the setup anygood really. Roll oversteer is a bit [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > In a Clio V6? I'd love to film that with you trying it in someone elses > Vee hehe :-) Well don't you have someone else's Vee? Or has it gone now. >>>> The Vee didn't have the right set up though heh, and didn't have the >>>> options to make the setup anygood really. Roll oversteer is a bit [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Well don't you have someone else's Vee? Or has it gone now. It's gooooone. SignatureDan Clio R27 F1 #65 > >> The Vee didn't have the right set up though heh, and didn't have the > >> options to make the setup anygood really. Roll oversteer is a bit [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > In a Clio V6? I'd love to film that with you trying it in someone elses Vee > hehe :-) It is someone elses Vee now, go on let him. I feel some youtubery. SignatureCarl Robson Audio stream: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com:8000/samtest Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com >> The Vee didn't have the right set up though heh, and didn't have the >> options to make the setup anygood really. Roll oversteer is a bit >> scary. > > Indeed but counterable with a bootful of throttle! I doubt that. The V6 will have decent traction, but as Dan said, roll oversteer isn't a good thing. SignaturePete M - OMF#9 Range Rover V8 Turbo Range Rover 4.6 HSE "Professional Petrolhead" > or has Dan really gone and swapped a mid-engined, rear wheel drive, 6 > cylinder hardcore french shopping trolley for a production line clio? Did > you need the room for the shopping or the school run? Were you eager for us > to take the piss at every opportunity? > > What is the world coming to? Well it was getting a bit dull round here. Most people seem to have gone and got something with some sort of credentials, something interesting, something economical or something 'pass the extra hold mousse and eyebrow straighteners, Bruce'. SignatureDouglas > > or has Dan really gone and swapped a mid-engined, rear wheel drive, 6 > > cylinder hardcore french shopping trolley for a production line clio? Did [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > interesting, something economical or something 'pass the extra hold > mousse and eyebrow straighteners, Bruce'. I've still got the Capri and this winter, it's going to be prepped for some dragstrip action over the winter. Not decided what route to go with the engine yet though. I'd like to stay NA and at 2L although a YB turbo install isn't that complicated but it takes you into a different bracket where it gets silly expensive to be remotely competitive. Although I'm only going to be doing it for fun, I'd like to not look completely embarrassing. As it's no longer my sole car, lairy cams and silly fuel consumption aren't the issue they once were. SignatureConor I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. - Scott Adams >> > or has Dan really gone and swapped a mid-engined, rear wheel drive, 6 >> > cylinder hardcore french shopping trolley for a production line clio? [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > As it's no longer my sole car, lairy cams and silly fuel consumption > aren't the issue they once were. conventional tuning gets you very littlle extra go even with much money. . Pintos are pretty crap as well and wear out fast when tuned. Turbos put you in a more expensive/competitive class. That leaves nitrous for the strip. 100 extra is easily possible. And if you are careful you cant "see" it... >> > or has Dan really gone and swapped a mid-engined, rear wheel drive, 6 >> > cylinder hardcore french shopping trolley for a production line clio? [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > As it's no longer my sole car, lairy cams and silly fuel consumption > aren't the issue they once were. I'll come and run the R27 against you if you like :-) It's ok if it breaks, it has 'warrenty' till 2010 hehe :-) SignatureDan Clio R27 #65 >> or has Dan really gone and swapped a mid-engined, rear wheel drive, 6 >> cylinder hardcore french shopping trolley for a production line clio? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > interesting, something economical or something 'pass the extra hold > mousse and eyebrow straighteners, Bruce'. I'm getting my C6 just as soon as this bloody house is sold. I'll fit a towbar. That's a mod, right? (My MR2 V6 plans may have to be abandoned. Oh, yeah, I still have the MR2, it's got a Kenwood DNX7200, 960W amp, 1000W carbon-fibre subwoofer, components in the doors, etc...) Actually. Why is is so hard to get diamond-cut alloys refurbished? Richard > I'll fit a towbar. That's a mod, right? Only if its got blue LEDs. > Why is is so hard to get diamond-cut alloys refurbished? Cos it's time consuming. Even the place I used stopped doing them. SignatureConor I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. - Scott Adams >> I'll fit a towbar. That's a mod, right? > > Only if its got blue LEDs. Hmm, I think I can manage that... >> Why is is so hard to get diamond-cut alloys refurbished? >> > Cos it's time consuming. Even the place I used stopped doing them. Bah. I'll have to just settle for normal colours, then. Really like diamond-cut, and they're a distinctive feature on Rev 4 MR2s :/ Richard > or has Dan really gone and swapped a mid-engined, rear wheel drive, 6 > cylinder hardcore french shopping trolley for a production line clio? Did > you need the room for the shopping or the school run? Were you eager for us > to take the piss at every opportunity? > > What is the world coming to? Don't knock the R27 after all: "With its red brake callipers, its new Sirius yellow colouring and exclusive Renault F1 Team and World Champion markings, this special edition of the Clio Renault Sport will be immediately identified with its older sibling, the Mgane" See it has red painted callipers and sports stickers. > Don't knock the R27 But it is 5 less than an R32. If they had called it an R33, I would understand. If it was an R35 I would be impressed properly. SignatureCarl Robson Audio stream: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com:8000/samtest Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com >> Don't knock the R27 >> > But it is 5 less than an R32. > If they had called it an R33, I would understand. > If it was an R35 I would be impressed properly. Aren't some of those types of gas for aircon systems? Signature"For want of the price of tea and a slice, the old man died." > >> Don't knock the R27 > >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Aren't some of those types of gas for aircon systems? RS24, R134, R314A, R49 There are others. SignatureCarl Robson Audio stream: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com:8000/samtest Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com |
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