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I despair of the human race
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Bob Sherunckle - 26 May 2008 14:56 GMT Guy next door.
Mr sensible family man. Works in a hospital, I think he's a radiologist.
Him, his wife and their two children, so the Mazda 323 diesel was a boring but appropriate choice for someone to whom a car is chosen much like a telly or fridge.
Anyway, he has had the Mazda for 5 years, so clearly he has decided to get something new.
Mitsubishi Outlander Warrior. Black with blacked out windows.
I know it's not exactly an X5, an ML or a Range Rover, but what on earth is the point ? My Golf isn't exactly Caterham challenging in terms of ride height, but this thing tower above it.
There's two adults and two children, they don't tow a trailer or a caravan. They also live in a boring housing estate with tarmac roads. Diesel will cost nearly two quid a litre by the end of the year.
I just don't get it.
There endeth the grump.
I'm off out to burn some gas and to buy some ice cream whil the sun is still shining.
Clive George - 26 May 2008 15:04 GMT > Mitsubishi Outlander Warrior. > Black with blacked out windows. > > I know it's not exactly an X5, an ML or a Range Rover, but what on earth > is the point ? Mid-life crisis.
DanB - 26 May 2008 15:05 GMT > Guy next door. > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > I'm off out to burn some gas and to buy some ice cream whil the sun is > still shining. One of these?
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Vamp - 26 May 2008 15:20 GMT > Guy next door. > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > I'm off out to burn some gas and to buy some ice cream whil the sun is > still shining. i like the outlander, pretty good spec and the diesel is nicked off VW if i'm right. hey it could be worse the guy could have bought a scenic!
Elder - 26 May 2008 15:27 GMT > I just don't get it. Why the f.ck shouldn't he. First they came for the 4x4s.....
Drive what you want and don't let the environ-mentalists stop you. If they can afford it why not. Even with depreciation it will still be worth more than their house soon.
What would you have said if they had bought a Pious and been brainwashed about saving the planet, and then gone on to try to convert you by telling you are damaging the world with your "old car".
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Bob Sherunckle - 26 May 2008 17:17 GMT >> I just don't get it. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > about saving the planet, and then gone on to try to convert you by > telling you are damaging the world with your "old car". See, that's what I like about this group.
We all have different points of view ;-)
Depresion - 26 May 2008 17:23 GMT >> I just don't get it. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > about saving the planet, and then gone on to try to convert you by > telling you are damaging the world with your "old car". We should all buy Priuss Prie Pr,,, What the multiple of a Prius? Then fit V8s with twin turbos to them. That way we can do the "look aren't we good" thing whilst going sideways past a school.
Tim S Kemp - 26 May 2008 18:47 GMT >>> I just don't get it. >>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Then fit V8s with twin turbos to them. That way we can do the "look > aren't we good" thing whilst going sideways past a school. V8 - not yet. Turbo has been done
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Richard Kilpatrick - 26 May 2008 19:43 GMT > We should all buy Priuss Prie Pr,,, What the multiple of a Prius? Then fit > V8s with twin turbos to them. That way we can do the "look aren't we good" > thing whilst going sideways past a school. The Prius is quite capable of killing the planet without your help; look at the whole-life environmental impact of the vehicle.
People can choose whatever they like, it's true, but I think that people are getting a bit stupid on the whole "excessively large" car thing; that includes vehicles like the Modus.
One thing that surprised me about the Ignis was that it's actually quite usefully big inside and has relatively slim pillars for a modern car. I expect that's why it's so cheap and not that popular.
Richard
Bob Sherunckle - 26 May 2008 19:51 GMT >> We should all buy Priuss Prie Pr,,, What the multiple of a Prius? Then >> fit V8s with twin turbos to them. That way we can do the "look aren't we [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Richard Friend of mine happily tows a box trailer with a Radical Clubsport in it with an Ignis. Quite a handy little thing really.
Richard Kilpatrick - 27 May 2008 00:46 GMT > Friend of mine happily tows a box trailer with a Radical Clubsport in it > with an Ignis. > Quite a handy little thing really. I missed a cheap towbar on eBay (£20!), and apparently my car could have had it. Would have been useful for taking stuff to the dump, too :( I wasn't sure if a little 1.5 Ignis Sport could handle towing much; the 4grip model is probably better suited.
I'm resigned to running just the Ignis until the house sells (the MR2 is for sale now, need to do a proper advert for it) and I get my C6, so it's getting my plate on it. If I find another cheap towbar, I'm snapping it up!
Richard
Bob Sherunckle - 27 May 2008 16:59 GMT >> Friend of mine happily tows a box trailer with a Radical Clubsport in it >> with an Ignis. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > wasn't sure if a little 1.5 Ignis Sport could handle towing much; the > 4grip model is probably better suited. That makes sense, the car in question is a 4wd version.
Doki - 26 May 2008 17:33 GMT >> I just don't get it. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > about saving the planet, and then gone on to try to convert you by > telling you are damaging the world with your "old car". I hate 4x4s for the fact that a) they generally travel slowly and b) they're f.cking huge. It's just not possible to see round them on roundabouts.
Burgerman - 26 May 2008 19:10 GMT >>> I just don't get it. >>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > they're f.cking huge. It's just not possible to see round them on > roundabouts. Then buy a bigger car.
Tim.. - 26 May 2008 15:32 GMT > Guy next door. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Mitsubishi Outlander Warrior. > Black with blacked out windows. I quite like the Outlander, nearly bought one instead of the Xtrail.
However, that now has to go, as i have bought a pre 01 (£185/yr) proper 4x4, to be replaced with a boring 5 door hatch of some sort that is in band C or D !
Tim..
Steve Firth - 26 May 2008 16:02 GMT > However, that now has to go, as i have bought a pre 01 (£185/yr) proper 4x4, Good move, as is buying an import.
At the moment a Mercedes S600 is winking at me, and it's pocket money money.
Steve Firth - 26 May 2008 15:41 GMT > Anyway, he has had the Mazda for 5 years, so clearly he has decided to get > something new. > > Mitsubishi Outlander Warrior. > Black with blacked out windows. (a) What the f.ck is it to do with you? (b) It gets decent MPG even the greens can't whine about it. (c) It's tiny.
Bob Sherunckle - 26 May 2008 17:23 GMT >> Anyway, he has had the Mazda for 5 years, so clearly he has decided to >> get [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > (a) What the f.ck is it to do with you? Bugger all
> (b) It gets decent MPG even the greens can't whine about it. Fair enough
> (c) It's tiny. Yeah, compared to an exploder or some sort of Jag or, like whatever.
Jeez, what is it with you people. I was only having a little rant.
I really don't mind, honestly. I love the fact that we all like different things - honestly, I do. It's just that I need to rant accordingly when it's something I don't want myself.
Steve Firth - 26 May 2008 17:39 GMT > > (c) It's tiny. > > Yeah, compared to an exploder or some sort of Jag or, like whatever. Compared to almost anything. An Exploder, despite all the propaganda is smaller than a Mondeo estate. I would guess that had chummy next door got a Mondeo estate your only rant would be about him having a boring car.
> Jeez, what is it with you people. > I was only having a little rant. Just remind me what you drive so I can have a rant. TBH I don't mind ranting I just like to see the rant have substance rather than being a load of hypocritical knee-jerk Daily Mail whining.
Bob Sherunckle - 26 May 2008 17:56 GMT >> > (c) It's tiny. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > got a Mondeo estate your only rant would be about him having a boring > car. Yep. If it's not what I would have picked, then it's the wrong car. Can't get fairer than that.
>> Jeez, what is it with you people. >> I was only having a little rant. > > Just remind me what you drive so I can have a rant. TBH I don't mind > ranting I just like to see the rant have substance rather than being a > load of hypocritical knee-jerk Daily Mail whining. I drive a model of car which was world finalist in the gayest and girliest car in the world competitions every year since it was first introduced in 1979.
Yes, it's a Golf Cabrio.
If this isn't enough ranting material, my Sylva is in the top ten ugliest cars of all time, just behind the Stimson Scorcher.
Nearly forgot, as the Golf is on LPG, remember to have a go at me for being a half baked psuedo environ-mentalist and a tight wad into the bargain.
(To be fair, don't know if I've left you much here at all, I think that pretty much sums it up.)
If it helps at all, I used to have a Fiat Strada, there's plenty mileage in that.
All the best
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Steve Firth - 26 May 2008 18:15 GMT > Yes, it's a Golf Cabrio. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > If it helps at all, I used to have a Fiat Strada, there's plenty mileage in > that. Consider yourself ranted at. If someone were to compile a list of cars I wouldn't own even if there was no choice, you've just provided the first three entries.
Bob Sherunckle - 26 May 2008 18:42 GMT >> Yes, it's a Golf Cabrio. >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > wouldn't own even if there was no choice, you've just provided the first > three entries. Why, thank you.
My work here is done.
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