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Holy cow, I didn't realise these things were getting this cheap...

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Timo on tour - 20 Jul 2009 17:38 GMT
2000 BMW M5 for a little over 6k: http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1147289.htm

Yes, my automotive ADD is rearing its head again - I'm not really
warming to the Integra after (of course) pouring money into it...
JackH - 22 Jul 2009 13:43 GMT
> 2000 BMW M5 for a little over 6k:http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1147289.htm
>
> Yes, my automotive ADD is rearing its head again - I'm not really
> warming to the Integra after (of course) pouring money into it...

*tut*

You know whatever you buy it will never be quite good enough, don't
you? :-P

Having said that, CIHAGM if you get an M5. ;-)

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JackH
Timo Geusch - 22 Jul 2009 21:47 GMT
> > 2000 BMW M5 for a little over
> > 6k:http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1147289.htm
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> You know whatever you buy it will never be quite good enough, don't
> you? :-P

I know :/. Trouble is, I've got a perfectly working Integra outside the
house but when I want to go somewhere and not take the 911, I just grab
the keys to the Golf. Dunno why, but the Integra doesn't do it.

Plenty quick, but I'm not comfortable with it.

> Having said that, CIHAGM if you get an M5. ;-)

*If* I get one[1] you can, but it'd be an E34 and the first thing
that'll happen to it is that we'd end up underneath it at Paul's :).

[1] Currently looking either at another MX5, 944 S2, Lotus Excel[2] or
potentially an E34 M5.
[2] Shutitwillya?

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JackH - 23 Jul 2009 22:01 GMT
On Jul 22, 9:47 pm, "Timo Geusch" <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk>
wrote:
> > > 2000 BMW M5 for a little over
> > > 6k:http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1147289.htm
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>
> Plenty quick, but I'm not comfortable with it.

Shame.

Looked a nice one, that.

With that in mind, are you considering keeping the Golf for a bit
longer now?

> > Having said that, CIHAGM if you get an M5. ;-)
>
> *If* I get one[1] you can, but it'd be an E34 and the first thing
> that'll happen to it is that we'd end up underneath it at Paul's :).

Ok...

> [1] Currently looking either at another MX5,

You got bored with the first one and didn't trust the second... are
you rsure it would really be a case of third time lucky if you went
this route?

> 944 S2...

Better. ;-)

> Lotus Excel[2]

No, no, no, no, no... no, no, no, no...

> or potentially an E34 M5.
> [2] Shutitwillya?

...NO!

Tis one of the worst ideas you've come up with to date, that one. ;-)

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JackH
Timo Geusch - 23 Jul 2009 22:56 GMT
> On Jul 22, 9:47 pm, "Timo Geusch" <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk>
> wrote:
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>
> Looked a nice one, that.

It does, and aside from a new bonnet release cable it doesn't need
anything. But still - took it to get some stuff from Tescos this
morning, was OK but not overwhelming.

> With that in mind, are you considering keeping the Golf for a bit
> longer now?

Most likely. I'd still like to get the plate off it, though. Just in
case like...

> > > Having said that, CIHAGM if you get an M5. ;-)
> >
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> you rsure it would really be a case of third time lucky if you went
> this route?

Well, I know I'm comfortable driving one on the track. The one I'll be
looking at on Sunday has had a supercharger fitted and as that's a kit,
there is less scope for f.cking it up. One would hope...

> > 944 S2...
>
> Better. ;-)

Maybe. One of the guys on the 911 forum is selling his so I'll have a
look at it. I've driven older 944s and was rather lukewarm. Plus they
can shred the contents of your wallet in a really scary fashion.

> > Lotus Excel[2]
>
> No, no, no, no, no... no, no, no, no...

It's out of the picture as the one I had my eye on was sold[1]

> Tis one of the worst ideas you've come up with to date, that one. ;-)

*proud*

[1] And the other reason I'm looking at a VX220 on Sunday :)

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JackH - 24 Jul 2009 09:50 GMT
On Jul 23, 10:56 pm, "Timo Geusch" <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk>
wrote:
> > On Jul 22, 9:47 pm, "Timo Geusch" <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk>
> > wrote:
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> anything. But still - took it to get some stuff from Tescos this
> morning, was OK but not overwhelming.

As I've mentioned before, I found the Civic Type R I tried fun... for
about five minutes, and then reality kicked in and I realised that I'd
almost certainly get irritated by the rock hard suspension and the
feeling it wanted to spit you off into the nearest field if you dared
to nail it with any sense of conviction down a choppy back road.

Great track car though I'm sure.

Anyway, if the ITR is like that then I can see your point.

> > With that in mind, are you considering keeping the Golf for a bit
> > longer now?
>
> Most likely. I'd still like to get the plate off it, though. Just in
> case like...

Ok, ok, ok... lol

Ibiza paperwork is here... I'll pop over at some point over the
weekend if you're going to be around.

> > > > Having said that, CIHAGM if you get an M5. ;-)
>
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> looking at on Sunday has had a supercharger fitted and as that's a kit,
> there is less scope for f.cking it up. One would hope...

> > > 944 S2...
>
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>
> It's out of the picture as the one I had my eye on was sold[1]

*phew*

Although I'm sure Paul would have appreciated *that* much regular work
coming in. :-P

> > Tis one of the worst ideas you've come up with to date, that one. ;-)
>
> *proud*
>
> [1] And the other reason I'm looking at a VX220 on Sunday :)

My mates dad is on his second one (1)... after the first decided to
leave the road unannounced (2), and disintegrated.

(1) Turbo, natch
(2) He *says* he wasn't pushing it, either... so I'm not sure I'd want
another myself, given they've assumed it had a blowout despite it
appearing that one of the suspension legs etc had started to detach
itself from the car

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JackH
Timo on tour - 24 Jul 2009 10:16 GMT
> On Jul 23, 10:56 pm, "Timo Geusch" <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk>
> wrote:
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>
> Anyway, if the ITR is like that then I can see your point.

Not quite - the problem is that unless you go 10/10 in it, it's just a
boring, noisy shopping trolley. And I don't drive like that on public
roads, so I go grab the Golf key instead. Also, I know that people
rave about the feedback it gives but it and me don't seem to be
talking the same language...

It's a bloody good car and it is fast on the track, but for me the
grin factor is missing.

> > > With that in mind, are you considering keeping the Golf for a bit
> > > longer now?
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> Ibiza paperwork is here... I'll pop over at some point over the
> weekend if you're going to be around.

I'm around on Saturday, will be looking at cars on Sunday. You're
welcome to join me on that if you fancy looking at daft machinery.

> > > > Lotus Excel[2]
>
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> Although I'm sure Paul would have appreciated *that* much regular work
> coming in. :-P

Actually. most of the running gear on these is Toyota, it's just the
ticking time bomb under the bonnet that is Lotus.

> > > Tis one of the worst ideas you've come up with to date, that one. ;-)
>
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> appearing that one of the suspension legs etc had started to detach
> itself from the car

I'd be looking at N/As - basically I want the handling of an Elise for
a little less money and with an engine that doesn't cook its head
gasket every five minutes...
JackH - 24 Jul 2009 10:28 GMT
> > On Jul 23, 10:56 pm, "Timo Geusch" <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk>
> > wrote:
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> It's a bloody good car and it is fast on the track, but for me the
> grin factor is missing.

Oh well... sure you won't have any trouble getting rid of it.

How much do you reckon it'll realistically fetch?

> > > > With that in mind, are you considering keeping the Golf for a bit
> > > > longer now?
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> I'm around on Saturday, will be looking at cars on Sunday. You're
> welcome to join me on that if you fancy looking at daft machinery.

Ok... I'm busy Saturday AM and pretty sure I've had Sunday mapped out
for me.

Will let you know once I've spoken to 'the boss' later. ;-)

> > > > > Lotus Excel[2]
>
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> Actually. most of the running gear on these is Toyota, it's just the
> ticking time bomb under the bonnet that is Lotus.

Aye, well... whoever made it, it's a ticking timebomb all the same.

> > > > Tis one of the worst ideas you've come up with to date, that one. ;-)
>
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> a little less money and with an engine that doesn't cook its head
> gasket every five minutes...

I wasn't aware the turbo lumps on these were prone to that tbh...

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JackH
Timo on tour - 24 Jul 2009 11:01 GMT
> > Not quite - the problem is that unless you go 10/10 in it, it's just a
> > boring, noisy shopping trolley. And I don't drive like that on public
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>
> How much do you reckon it'll realistically fetch?

I'm hoping for around 3.5k-3.6k. It's clean, but it's not been owned
by people with a detailing fetish. Plus it's also suffering from the
usual paint problems and rear arches.

> > > > > With that in mind, are you considering keeping the Golf for a bit
> > > > > longer now?
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>
> Will let you know once I've spoken to 'the boss' later. ;-)

Fair enough. I'm most likely around all day on Saturday although I do
need to clean in ITR and take some pictures of it at some point.

> > > > > > Lotus Excel[2]
>
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>
> Aye, well... whoever made it, it's a ticking timebomb all the same.

TBF they are a little more reliable than your average Lotus.

> > > > > Tis one of the worst ideas you've come up with to date, that one. ;-)
>
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>
> I wasn't aware the turbo lumps on these were prone to that tbh...

No, but the K-series in the Elise is...
Douglas Payne - 24 Jul 2009 11:08 GMT
>> I'd be looking at N/As - basically I want the handling of an Elise for
>> a little less money and with an engine that doesn't cook its head
>> gasket every five minutes...
>
> I wasn't aware the turbo lumps on these were prone to that tbh...

However, Turbo VX220s are prone to being more expensive than some Elises
and most NAs.

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JackH - 24 Jul 2009 11:19 GMT
> >> I'd be looking at N/As - basically I want the handling of an Elise for
> >> a little less money and with an engine that doesn't cook its head
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> However, Turbo VX220s are prone to being more expensive than some Elises
> and most NAs.

To buy in the first place?

If so, tis all relative surely; you pay x amount more in the first
place, you get more back on it pro rata over the value of an N/A when
the time to sell it on comes?

I doubt they're depreciating much if at all these days given how few
there are about.

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JackH
Douglas Payne - 24 Jul 2009 11:32 GMT
>>>> I'd be looking at N/As - basically I want the handling of an Elise for
>>>> a little less money and with an engine that doesn't cook its head
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> I doubt they're depreciating much if at all these days given how few
> there are about.

Heheh, depends how much money you have in the first place.  If they can
all depreciate to zero, or to a level where they don't depreciate any
more, the cheaper car has less far to depreciate.

NAs are still pretty quick.  I would love a turbo.

I guess prices will probably be quite close to levelling out.  NAs will
be getting rarer more quickly as I reckon people will butcher them to
make Turbos.

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Timo on tour - 24 Jul 2009 12:38 GMT
> >> I'd be looking at N/As - basically I want the handling of an Elise for
> >> a little less money and with an engine that doesn't cook its head
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> However, Turbo VX220s are prone to being more expensive than some Elises
> and most NAs.

Yup. And TBH I'd rather have an Elise if I'm spending VX220 Turbo
money.
JackH - 24 Jul 2009 16:46 GMT
> > >> I'd be looking at N/As - basically I want the handling of an Elise for
> > >> a little less money and with an engine that doesn't cook its head
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> Yup. And TBH I'd rather have an Elise if I'm spending VX220 Turbo
> money.

Sell another bike / car / kidney then or something, and get one
then. :-P

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JackH
Timo on tour - 24 Jul 2009 17:57 GMT
> > > >> I'd be looking at N/As - basically I want the handling of an Elise for
> > > >> a little less money and with an engine that doesn't cook its head
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> Sell another bike / car / kidney then or something, and get one
> then. :-P

That'll be "too much money to stick into the kitty litter" again,
though. 3k-4k damaged I can stomach, but a bent Elise is going to be a
*lot* more money.
JackH - 24 Jul 2009 18:01 GMT
> > > > >> I'd be looking at N/As - basically I want the handling of an Elise for
> > > > >> a little less money and with an engine that doesn't cook its head
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> though. 3k-4k damaged I can stomach, but a bent Elise is going to be a
> *lot* more money.

Someone stuffed a GT3 into the wall at Lydden a couple of weeks ago.

Blowout, apparently.

Anyway... have you never wondered why so many cars down there have
gaffa tape over the number plates? ;-)

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JackH
Timo on tour - 24 Jul 2009 18:11 GMT
> > > > > >> I'd be looking at N/As - basically I want the handling of an Elise for
> > > > > >> a little less money and with an engine that doesn't cook its head
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>
> Someone stuffed a GT3 into the wall at Lydden a couple of weeks ago.

Ouch.

> Blowout, apparently.

Of a tyre or the driver? ;-)

> Anyway... have you never wondered why so many cars down there have
> gaffa tape over the number plates? ;-)

Oh, I know why that is. It also helps if you can get a mate to help
drag such a damaged vehicle out on a public road :-).

You're planning to go to Lydden anytime soon?
JackH - 24 Jul 2009 18:21 GMT
> > > > > > >> I'd be looking at N/As - basically I want the handling of an Elise for
> > > > > > >> a little less money and with an engine that doesn't cook its head
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>
> You're planning to go to Lydden anytime soon?

As far as I know, they're not running any trackdays now til September
so I might do a couple of sessions then, assuming I've upgraded the
hoses and fluid on the brakes of the Ibiza (1) by then.

Or were you asking in the sense of 'can you turn up with the van and a
car trailer... just in case' ;-)

(1) Given it has 312mm Audi TT fronts, they work very well... but I
reckon a track session will have them boiling up in no time given how
they've felt on the one or two occasions I've really pushed the car so
far.

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JackH
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JackH
Timo on tour - 24 Jul 2009 18:37 GMT
> > > > > > > >> I'd be looking at N/As - basically I want the handling of an Elise for
> > > > > > > >> a little less money and with an engine that doesn't cook its head
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> so I might do a couple of sessions then, assuming I've upgraded the
> hoses and fluid on the brakes of the Ibiza (1) by then.

IIRC there is one in late August, but given that I'm going on to
trackday at Silverstone on September 1st, the car would barely have
time to cool down.

> Or were you asking in the sense of 'can you turn up with the van and a
> car trailer... just in case' ;-)

Now why would I suggest something like that, eh?

;-)

> (1) Given it has 312mm Audi TT fronts, they work very well... but I
> reckon a track session will have them boiling up in no time given how
> they've felt on the one or two occasions I've really pushed the car so
> far.

Well, I've got a Mightyvac with brake bleeding kit in the garage
somewhere if it helps.
Timo on tour - 24 Jul 2009 18:39 GMT
> > > > > > > > >> I'd be looking at N/As - basically I want the handling of an Elise for
> > > > > > > > >> a little less money and with an engine that doesn't cook its head
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> trackday at Silverstone on September 1st, the car would barely have
> time to cool down.

Actually you're right, nothing until mid-September.
 
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