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In a Mk2 1300 Sport Escort. I'll die, won't I?  SignaturePete M - OMF#9 '62 Rover P4 100 '61 Rover P5 3 litre '72 Rover P6 3500 Auto '78 Escort 1300 Sport '96 Volvo 850 T5 CD Estate "It's an Alfa, it will go wrong, it will piss you off, why should your Alfa experience be different from everyone else's? Now get back out there and swear at it before something else breaks." > In a Mk2 1300 Sport Escort. > > I'll die, won't I? No, but a gang of us should go. It'd be a giggle. I reckon the Puma's fast enough to be a laugh round there. Mike P > In a Mk2 1300 Sport Escort. > > I'll die, won't I? You probably will, but at least you'll German insurance so you'll be covered during TFs. As opposed to most Brits... Signature'88 Porsche 911 Targa '00 Golf TDI estate '99 Integra Type-R >> In a Mk2 1300 Sport Escort. >> >> I'll die, won't I? > > You probably will, but at least you'll German insurance so you'll be > covered during TFs. As opposed to most Brits... Isn't there some optional 'Ring insurance you can buy on the day now? IIRC my mate in his Elise paid about £60 or something like that. Mike P >>> In a Mk2 1300 Sport Escort. >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Isn't there some optional 'Ring insurance you can buy on the day now? > IIRC my mate in his Elise paid about £60 or something like that. The only one I'm aware of that was discussed over at pissed on heads was a 99 quid policy that helps cover the cost of damaged armco. Consensus over there is that no UK insurer is willing to cover 3rd party risk; they might have to pay out due to its classification as a public road during TFs but they'll very likely to recover the money from you. In most cases that'll be your house, all your valuables and possible bankruptcy. Signature'88 Porsche 911 Targa '00 Golf TDI estate '99 Integra Type-R > Consensus over there is that no UK insurer is willing to cover 3rd party > risk; they might have to pay out due to its classification as a public > road during TFs but they'll very likely to recover the money from > you. In most cases that'll be your house, all your valuables and > possible bankruptcy. It's a public one way toll road with no speed limit, so unless specifically excluded by your policy, or you are breaching the "racing / competition" rules on the policy, then going for a nice gentle sunday drive around the ring cannot be reason for invalidating the policy any more than going for a nice gentle sunday drive around the coventry inner ring road (and is probably safer). SignatureAnd remember kids, RAID is safe and the UPS never fails, and Cisco routers never develop intermittent faults, and external hard drives never fail with only a month's use, and the DNS is reliable and resilient, and the mailserver is protected from all forms of attack, and the replacement UPS will be reliable as the first one was an unusual failure. > > Consensus over there is that no UK insurer is willing to cover 3rd > > party risk; they might have to pay out due to its classification as [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > the policy any more than going for a nice gentle sunday drive around > the coventry inner ring road (and is probably safer). I'm not going to rehash the stuff they mentioned over on PH, you might want to have a look at the threads on PH with the links to stuff written by law firms who actually understand the situation. Of course I assume that you can back up your assertion with references to case law and all that? Signature'88 Porsche 911 Targa '99 Integra Type-R '00 VW Golf TDI Estate You need to buy a new car in eighteen months >> Consensus over there is that no UK insurer is willing to cover 3rd party >> risk; they might have to pay out due to its classification as a public [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > more than going for a nice gentle sunday drive around the coventry inner > ring road (and is probably safer). I'm sure my last few insurance policies have had a 'no Nurburgring' clause. SignatureDouglas > In a Mk2 1300 Sport Escort. > > I'll die, won't I? No. I take it its finished? SignatureConor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. - Scott Adams >> In a Mk2 1300 Sport Escort. >> >> I'll die, won't I? > > No. I take it its finished? It'll be finished in 3-5 weeks, all going well. SignaturePete M - OMF#9 '62 Rover P4 100 '61 Rover P5 3 litre '72 Rover P6 3500 Auto '78 Escort 1300 Sport '96 Volvo 850 T5 CD Estate "It's an Alfa, it will go wrong, it will piss you off, why should your Alfa experience be different from everyone else's. Now get back out there and swear at it before something else breaks." > >> In a Mk2 1300 Sport Escort. > >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > It'll be finished in 3-5 weeks, all going well. Good news. Get a few weeks at the end of the show/event season in then. Hope you're going to garage it over winter. They have a nasty habit of going downhill quick if you don't, no matter how good the restoration. SignatureConor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. - Scott Adams > In a Mk2 1300 Sport Escort. > > I'll die, won't I? You won't be going fast enough to die unless someone hits you from behind. Fraser >> In a Mk2 1300 Sport Escort. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Fraser What he said. Freshly restored MKII Escort, shinig like a new pin, bimbling up the straight with all 68bhp stretching their legs. 500bhp Skyline / EVO / 911 / Ferrari / Lambo comes up behind and the track's a bit congested. Things get a bit confused. Escort gets wrecked. Sorry mate, but I wouldn't. It's like digging a trench with a pair of chopsticks - wrong tool for the job. Call in and park it up for everyone to admire in the car park though. >>> In a Mk2 1300 Sport Escort. >>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > job. > Call in and park it up for everyone to admire in the car park though. I've had friends do 'the ring' in the past with slowish cars and they've had a great time. However one of them was in an MX5 and had a slight coming together with a Porsche 911 and after an arguement about insurance policies they agreed to just walk away and pay for their own damages. Just gotta decide whether you wanna run the risk of that happening - personally I'd just go for it as IMHO cars are designed to be driven. I'm building the Vitesse ready to be taken on some track days, and possibly the Ring but I guess that's probably not worth as much as a nice mk2 Escort. Although maybe I'll feel different about it when it's finished. A friend of mine edits a car magazine and her predecessor and wrote off a car on a test drive round the Ring. The track was shut because he dropped a load of oil and he was billed not only for the armco, but also for compensation for having the track closed. Was an expensive day for him, not to mention the £50k car he destroyed. If some sort of insurance against this exists I think I'd definitely pay for it!! >>>> In a Mk2 1300 Sport Escort. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > him, not to mention the £50k car he destroyed. If some sort of > insurance against this exists I think I'd definitely pay for it!! To be honest, I think Bob hit the nail on the head. I'll probably give it a miss. It'd be a shame to wreck what's undoubtedly a rare old Escort just on a jolly - and it wouldn't be quick anyway. I might take it for a thrap around one of the circuits in Czech before I bring it back though. SignaturePete M - OMF#9 '62 Rover P4 100 '61 Rover P5 3 litre '72 Rover P6 3500 Auto '78 Escort 1300 Sport '96 Volvo 850 T5 CD Estate "It's an Alfa, it will go wrong, it will piss you off, why should your Alfa experience be different from everyone else's. Now get back out there and swear at it before something else breaks." >>>>> In a Mk2 1300 Sport Escort. >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > I might take it for a thrap around one of the circuits in Czech before I > bring it back though. Sounds more like it.. If you're ever north of the border, give me a shout, I have the keys for a lovely little hillclimb track where you're only racing yourself :-) On Jul 27, 10:59 am, "Bob Sherunckle" <zilsp...@beeteeopenworld.com> wrote: > >>>>> In a Mk2 1300 Sport Escort. > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > If you're ever north of the border, give me a shout, I have the keys for a > lovely little hillclimb track where you're only racing yourself :-) Cue long queue of ukrcm'ers... >>>>>> In a Mk2 1300 Sport Escort. >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > If you're ever north of the border, give me a shout, I have the keys for a > lovely little hillclimb track where you're only racing yourself :-) Would they allow low blow turbocharged front wheel drives, hybrids, and proper throaty V6s? SignatureThe DervMan www.dervman.com >>>>>>> In a Mk2 1300 Sport Escort. >>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > Would they allow low blow turbocharged front wheel drives, hybrids, and > proper throaty V6s? and buzzy little ladies hot-hatches? Mike P >>>>>>>> In a Mk2 1300 Sport Escort. >>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > > and buzzy little ladies hot-hatches? Turbo'd straight 5s? V8s in understeering machines of the highest 'Sweeney' calibre? IOE 6 pots? I might be buying another German Mk2 Escort in the next week or so, one that's not so rare or valuable. Unfortunately, it's about 100 miles from Denmark... SignaturePete M - OMF#9 '62 Rover P4 100 '61 Rover P5 3 litre '72 Rover P6 3500 Auto '78 Escort 1300 Sport '96 Volvo 850 T5 CD Estate "It's an Alfa, it will go wrong, it will piss you off, why should your Alfa experience be different from everyone else's. Now get back out there and swear at it before something else breaks." > I might be buying another German Mk2 Escort in the next week or so, one > that's not so rare or valuable. Unfortunately, it's about 100 miles from > Denmark... Annexe it using Blitzkreig. SignatureDouglas >>>> To be honest, I think Bob hit the nail on the head. I'll probably give >>>> it a miss. It'd be a shame to wreck what's undoubtedly a rare old [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > and buzzy little ladies hot-hatches? Hehehe. They'd probably even allow Prii, it has the best centre armrest in its class. SignatureDouglas >>>> Sounds more like it.. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Hehehe. They'd probably even allow Prii, it has the best centre armrest > in its class. Well, if a NA 306D is allowed.... P.S. Jock says you're "quick". This is a real compliment y'know. > What he said. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > job. > Call in and park it up for everyone to admire in the car park though. You do know that South Coast Skoda Owners club (f.cking mentalists the lot of them) have an annual convoy over the CZ to the CZ Coupe club show. The convoy consists of Estelles, Rapids, and Favorits. All of them screaming along with 1.3 litre engines. That convoy involves at least one ring raid, sometimes one each way. 500bhp means about 10 of them being out on the ring at the same time. Not one of them has been knocked off by something with loony power. Rules apply and the germans like rules. SignatureCarl Robson Get cashback on your purchases Topcashback http://www.TopCashBack.co.uk/skraggy_uk/ref/index.htm Greasypalm http://www.greasypalm.co.uk/r/?l=1006553 >> What he said. >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Rules apply and the germans like rules. Snot the germans I'd worry about at the Nurburgring. It'd be specifically non germans who don't give a f.ck about the rules and who have no insurance I would worry about. SignatureDouglas > In a Mk2 1300 Sport Escort. > > I'll die, won't I? Mk2 Eccy on the 'ring could be a giggle! Am I to understand this is a nice restoration though? Personally I'd rather take one that's a bit more 'rally' and a bit less concourse though. I'd like another Mk2! No money for toys at the moment though, my own fault for having so many kids lol |
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