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Tony Wright - 22 Aug 2004 20:20 GMT I'm looking to buy a day to day car instead of racking up the miles on my Puma. No more than 1000 quid. I'm looking for something that has a reliable engine, is cheapish to run, and prone to rust (I commute to the steelworks in Scunthorpe which has a rather interseting atmosphere). So far the only car I can think of which meets these (not sure about rust) is old Cavaliers (i.e. I've seen advertised a 1992 , 80000 miles, FSH, 800 quid).
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SteveH - 22 Aug 2004 20:24 GMT > I'm looking to buy a day to day car instead of racking up the miles on > my Puma. No more than 1000 quid. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > of which meets these (not sure about rust) is old Cavaliers (i.e. I've > seen advertised a 1992 , 80000 miles, FSH, 800 quid). £800 for a 12 year old Cav? - someone's taking the piss.
Look for a MkI Mondeo. Should be able to pick up a good condition petrol example for under £500.
Alternatively, and this would be my choice, a MkI Primera. I just sold a 2.0SLXi for £350. Great commuter car, but a bit too dull for my liking.
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JackH - 22 Aug 2004 21:13 GMT > Alternatively, and this would be my choice, a MkI Primera. I just sold a > 2.0SLXi for ?350. Great commuter car, but a bit too dull for my liking. I've been looking at the Primera eGT... price wise you can pick these up for under a grand now. The bulk of owner reviews on the car survey site all mention 'Goes like buggery over 5,500rpm, lovely handling etc.'
Tempted myself, so I am...
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Scott Mills - 22 Aug 2004 21:34 GMT > I'm looking to buy a day to day car instead of racking up the miles on > my Puma. No more than 1000 quid. > > I'm looking for something that has a reliable engine, is cheapish to > run, and prone to rust (I commute to the steelworks in Scunthorpe which I assume you mean NOT prone to rust. Otherwise I'd suggest a nice 10 year old Rover 214
> has a rather interseting atmosphere). So far the only car I can think > of which meets these (not sure about rust) is old Cavaliers (i.e. I've > seen advertised a 1992 , 80000 miles, FSH, 800 quid). JackH - 22 Aug 2004 21:14 GMT > > I'm looking to buy a day to day car instead of racking up the miles on > > my Puma. No more than 1000 quid. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I assume you mean NOT prone to rust. Otherwise I'd suggest a nice 10 year > old Rover 214 Or 216... like mine... which I'm now keeping... and I'm actively looking for tips on which cams etc., to tweak it up with. Not that it needs it - it was hammering on the rev limiter in top, earlier on :D
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SteveH - 22 Aug 2004 21:28 GMT > > I'm looking to buy a day to day car instead of racking up the miles on > > my Puma. No more than 1000 quid. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I assume you mean NOT prone to rust. Otherwise I'd suggest a nice 10 year > old Rover 214 If you could find one with an intact head gasket ;-)
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Scott Mills - 22 Aug 2004 23:52 GMT > > > I'm looking to buy a day to day car instead of racking up the miles on > > > my Puma. No more than 1000 quid. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > If you could find one with an intact head gasket ;-) ...and you don't find fixing it every weekend rather than just washing it like everyone else...
AstraVanMan - 22 Aug 2004 22:48 GMT > I'm looking to buy a day to day car instead of racking up the miles on > my Puma. No more than 1000 quid. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > of which meets these (not sure about rust) is old Cavaliers (i.e. I've > seen advertised a 1992 , 80000 miles, FSH, 800 quid). Yup, if you're after a reliable engine, cheapish to run and prone to rust, then a Cavalier will fulfill your requirements perfectly.
Peter
JackH - 22 Aug 2004 21:59 GMT > > I'm looking to buy a day to day car instead of racking up the miles on > > my Puma. No more than 1000 quid. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Yup, if you're after a reliable engine, cheapish to run and prone to rust, > then a Cavalier will fulfill your requirements perfectly. I'm getting a Corsa Diesel soon, as a runabout - cheap, don't rot as such, and reliable with minimal servicing... and if you can get hold of a TD one, they're not even that slow.
Mine unfortunately, will be a non turbo. *sob*
-- JackH
Guy King - 22 Aug 2004 22:24 GMT The message <2osfofFdm124U1@uni-berlin.de> from "JackH" <jackhackettuk@yahoo.co.uk> contains these words:
> I'm getting a Corsa Diesel soon, as a runabout You'll hate it. Corsas are vile.
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JackH - 22 Aug 2004 22:28 GMT > The message <2osfofFdm124U1@uni-berlin.de> > from "JackH" <jackhackettuk@yahoo.co.uk> contains these words: > > > I'm getting a Corsa Diesel soon, as a runabout > > You'll hate it. Corsas are vile. This is number 4, 2 were TDs, 1 was a non turbo.
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CD - 22 Aug 2004 22:43 GMT Guy King - 22 Aug 2004 22:50 GMT The message <2oshesFe4og4U1@uni-berlin.de> from "JackH" <jackhackettuk@yahoo.co.uk> contains these words:
> > You'll hate it. Corsas are vile.
> This is number 4, 2 were TDs, 1 was a non turbo. You poor bloke! I had loads of 'em as company cars and hated the bloody things. Harsh, noisy, heavy, slow (even the 1.4 16 valve), cramped, full of irritating design faults.
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JackH - 22 Aug 2004 23:49 GMT > The message <2oshesFe4og4U1@uni-berlin.de> > from "JackH" <jackhackettuk@yahoo.co.uk> contains these words: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > things. Harsh, noisy, heavy, slow (even the 1.4 16 valve), cramped, full > of irritating design faults. YMMV, obviously.
-- JackH
Steve Walker - 23 Aug 2004 11:52 GMT >The message <2oshesFe4og4U1@uni-berlin.de> >from "JackH" <jackhackettuk@yahoo.co.uk> contains these words: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >things. Harsh, noisy, heavy, slow (even the 1.4 16 valve), cramped, full >of irritating design faults. I've had them as [dis]courtesy cars. Don't like 'em, although the little 3-cylinder donk is lovely. The last one I had, had to do a hard (not emergency, but not far off) braking manoeuvre on the dual carriageway, and it got into a very strange corkscrewing motion which felt as if it was about to spin. Not nice. Maybe that was a bad 'un, but it was nearly new.
My sister bought one this year, kept it for about 3 months and chopped it in for a Clio. She hated it. Told her so.
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Guy King - 23 Aug 2004 12:07 GMT The message <IFvkHmFjxcKBFwO3@otolith.demon.co.uk> from Steve Walker <steve@otolith.demon.co.uk> contains these words:
> My sister bought one this year, kept it for about 3 months and chopped > it in for a Clio. She hated it. Told her so. I bet you hated having to do that - but felt duty bound?
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Steve Walker - 24 Aug 2004 12:09 GMT >The message <IFvkHmFjxcKBFwO3@otolith.demon.co.uk> >from Steve Walker <steve@otolith.demon.co.uk> contains these words: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >I bet you hated having to do that - but felt duty bound? Naturally :0)
She had a 1.6 206 XSi, which she loved, but couldn't really afford the fuel and insurance bills for, so she swapped it for a 1.2 Corsa. Which she hated. In the meantime, she got promoted and moved from a central Manchester postcode to a rural Derbyshire postcode, and promptly changed it for a 1.6 Clio RSi.
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DuncanWood - 22 Aug 2004 23:10 GMT > I'm looking to buy a day to day car instead of racking up the miles on > my Puma. No more than 1000 quid. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > of which meets these (not sure about rust) is old Cavaliers (i.e. I've > seen advertised a 1992 , 80000 miles, FSH, 800 quid). Something galvanised might survive the works, old audi or newer fiat.
Brian Ruth - 23 Aug 2004 12:14 GMT > I'm looking to buy a day to day car instead of racking up the miles on > my Puma. No more than 1000 quid. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > of which meets these (not sure about rust) is old Cavaliers (i.e. I've > seen advertised a 1992 , 80000 miles, FSH, 800 quid). I'd recommend an old-shape Rover 416/216. I was left a 94 example of one of these by an uncle back in April, and I've been pretty impressed with it. Nice and easy DIY maintenance prospect (unlike my Renault, which is an expensive nightmare to look after), looks nice (especially if you get a later one with the chrome grille and smoked rear light clusters), and reliable (has a Honda engine and gearbox, though the Rover engine is nowhere near as unreliable as some people would have you believe, especially in the later versions which had an improved inlet manifold gasket). Unusually, and in contrast to the original Rover 200 / Honda Ballade version, the Rover versions of this car are much better for rust resistance than the Honda version (the Concerto) - mine's 10 years old, and has no trace of rust anywhere (check carefully, though - especially under the plastic covers on the A pillars). Within your budget, you should be able to get pretty much any model - SOHC or DOHC, and you can have an auto or manual gearbox.
Fairly cheap to run, though service parts for the Honda engine are a bit expensive (tenner for the air filter, and I had to shop around for that. Fuel filter another 12 quid, fiver for the oil filter). Other bits I've coughed up for are a backlight bulb for the clock (tuppence ha'penny), rear silencer (35 quid) and a couple of CV boots (fiver a throw).
Brian.
Andrew Ratcliffe - 23 Aug 2004 19:03 GMT > > I'm looking to buy a day to day car instead of racking up the miles on > > my Puma. No more than 1000 quid. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > the A pillars). Within your budget, you should be able to get pretty much > any model - SOHC or DOHC, and you can have an auto or manual gearbox. What he said
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dp - 23 Aug 2004 23:17 GMT > I'm looking to buy a day to day car instead of racking up the miles on > my Puma. No more than 1000 quid. Go to www.autotrader.co.uk to see what you can get for your money. You should be able to get something around 8 years old with a mileage under 100k. The main thing with cars in this price bracket is how well they've been cared for and driven. You must also get a long MOT.
I've an M Reg Renault 19 Diesel in Hull that I will be putting up for sale in a few weeks for half your budget. There are similar vehicles at similar prices in the Autotrader, but if you're interested, mail me at temp @ 78b . com
adder - 24 Aug 2004 11:40 GMT > I'm looking to buy a day to day car instead of racking up the miles on > my Puma. No more than 1000 quid. > Why don't you just use the Puma? You bought it to drive right? It'll depreciate anyway.
AstraVanMan - 24 Aug 2004 12:52 GMT > > I'm looking to buy a day to day car instead of racking up the miles on > > my Puma. No more than 1000 quid. > > Why don't you just use the Puma? You bought it to drive right? It'll > depreciate anyway. Yeah, and if regularly serviced and nicely driven there's no reason why it shouldn't go to a very high mileage without major problems, particularly if a lot of the driving is motorway mileage (which if the OP is 'racking up the miles' then it probably will be). Pumas are reasonably economical, and don't have any major things that go wrong to my knowledge, so that's what I'd do. I don't see the logic in buying a nice car that you enjoy driving, and then buying another car that's cheap and much less enjoyable to drive, to do 90% of your driving in. Doesn't make sense to me (not a dig at SteveH btw!!!).
Peter
Richard Kilpatrick - 27 Aug 2004 09:40 GMT On 24/8/04 12:52 pm, in article 9_FWc.150$31.60@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net,
> I don't see the logic in buying a nice car that you enjoy driving, > and then buying another car that's cheap and much less enjoyable to drive, > to do 90% of your driving in. Doesn't make sense to me (not a dig at SteveH > btw!!!). And this is why my second car is a 3.0 RWD straight six :D
(Still, I do regret not having more mileage allowance on my Beetle. Maybe I'll upgrade. First problem in months, I got a water leak - turns out that a grommet was missing on the sill. Fixed in a morning with no hassle and no mess/broken things on the car).
Richard
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SteveH - 27 Aug 2004 17:57 GMT > > > I'm looking to buy a day to day car instead of racking up the miles on > > > my Puma. No more than 1000 quid. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > to do 90% of your driving in. Doesn't make sense to me (not a dig at SteveH > btw!!!) Heh.
I learned that one with the Primera experience.
Now I just do the 'cheap and enjoyable to drive' thing.
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Tony Wright - 27 Aug 2004 20:32 GMT > > > I'm looking to buy a day to day car instead of racking up the > > > miles on my Puma. No more than 1000 quid. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Pete Pete, I see your point, and after re-reading my post I would agree with you. Thinking about the reasons why I want a second car, it is less about mileage but more to do with body/paint condition with the crap being deposited on it at work. Maybe I'm being a bit paranoid about rusting.
I suppose the best thing to do , would to be to buy an older second Puma:)
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krystnors - 28 Aug 2004 16:06 GMT > Pete, I see your point, and after re-reading my post I would agree with > you. Thinking about the reasons why I want a second car, it is less > about mileage but more to do with body/paint condition with the crap > being deposited on it at work. Maybe I'm being a bit paranoid about > rusting. In that case why not buy/make a plastic cover for it whilst you're at work?
krystnors
Peter Hill - 27 Aug 2004 18:42 GMT >I'm looking to buy a day to day car instead of racking up the miles on >my Puma. No more than 1000 quid. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >of which meets these (not sure about rust) is old Cavaliers (i.e. I've >seen advertised a 1992 , 80000 miles, FSH, 800 quid). Nissan 200SX. Reliable maybe not if you drive it like the asks to be driven or start modding it but it comes with good web support and a social life. People arrange barbecues to encourage a team to come round and fix them.
It will save the Puma, you will be happy to put it up on blocks and save it for posterity.
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