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Car Forum / UK Car Forums / General Car Topics (UK group) / August 2004What car should i buy for up to 1000 pounds?
Hi, i am looking for a 2nd car for up to 1000 pounds. I got to be reliable and economical.i will do 10,000 miles on it. What car would you guys recommend? Any ideas would be appreciated...  Signature-------- Michael > Hi, i am looking for a 2nd car for up to 1000 pounds. I got to be reliable > and economical.i will do 10,000 miles on it. What car would you guys > recommend? Any ideas would be appreciated... If you're going to do 10,000 miles _on_ it I'd recommend something with a roof-rack and a sun-roof. How reliable and economical you will be I can not say, only you know for sure. SignatureAndrewR, D.Bot (Celeritas) Kawasaki ZX-6R J1 BOTAFOT#2,ITJWTFO#6,UKRMRM#1/13a,MCT#1,DFV#2,SKoGA#0 (and KotL) BotToS#5,SBS#25,IbW#34, TEAR#3 (and KotL), DS#5, COSOC#9, KotTFSTR# The speccy Geordie twat. sorry, i meant i will put 10,000 miles every year on that car. I hope it could last at 3 years. Signature-------- Michael > > Hi, i am looking for a 2nd car for up to 1000 pounds. I got to be reliable > > and economical.i will do 10,000 miles on it. What car would you guys [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > How reliable and economical you will be I can not say, only you know for > sure. > sorry, i meant i will put 10,000 miles every year on that car. I hope it > could last at 3 years. Yes, I gathered that. I was merely being facetious. If you're talking about spending a grand and getting something that will be trouble-free for 3 years and 30,000 miles then you're probably setting your sights a bit high. Some people will be along in a minute to recommend early Mondeos or Primeras and they're probably fine, but unless you're a whizz with a spanner then I would bank on it costing you some money over 3 years. So rather than going out with a specific make or model in mind I'd have a look in your local Autotrader and maybe on eBay, find something that looks clean and has a lowish mileage and buy it. SignatureAndrewR, D.Bot (Celeritas) Kawasaki ZX-6R J1 BOTAFOT#2,ITJWTFO#6,UKRMRM#1/13a,MCT#1,DFV#2,SKoGA#0 (and KotL) BotToS#5,SBS#25,IbW#34, TEAR#3 (and KotL), DS#5, COSOC#9, KotTFSTR# The speccy Geordie twat. i don't really expect it would be trouble-free but at least it should be reliable-ish. I have been looked at some Citroen ZX Diesel and Mondeo Diesel. Signature-------- Michael > > sorry, i meant i will put 10,000 miles every year on that car. I hope it > > could last at 3 years. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > look in your local Autotrader and maybe on eBay, find something that looks > clean and has a lowish mileage and buy it. But most of them i found have done at least over 110,000 miles on the clock. a bit worry Signature-------- Michael > i don't really expect it would be trouble-free but at least it should be > reliable-ish. I have been looked at some Citroen ZX Diesel and Mondeo [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > look in your local Autotrader and maybe on eBay, find something that looks > > clean and has a lowish mileage and buy it. > But most of them i found have done at least over 110,000 miles on the > clock. > a bit worry If you're only going to do another 30000 then the mileage isn't an issue, the condition & service history are all that matters. The message <VEEXc.55$Dy5.15@newsfe6-win.ntli.net> from "Michael" <maigege@Microsoft.com> contains these words: > But most of them i found have done at least over 110,000 miles on the clock. > a bit worry My Montego's got over 160k on the clock and is fine. I've had cars up to 250k without trouble - particularly diesels. SignatureSkipweasel. Being superstitious brings bad luck On 27/8/04 1:00 pm, in article 3130303034323739412F306438@zetnet.co.uk, "Guy King" <guy.king@zetnet.co.uk> wrote: > My Montego's got over 160k on the clock and is fine. I've had cars up to > 250k without trouble - particularly diesels. Montegos are unusual in that the rest of the car rots away before the engine expires - the Perkins engine is unkillable. Richard SignatureApples of various varieties - currently eMac/G5/PowerBook and ancients. Carstuff - Supra and New Beetle, and happy with just two for once. Music stuff - http://www.dmc12.demon.co.uk/music/ - MP3s coming soon! Otherstuff - http://www.dmc12.demon.co.uk/retrotech/ > On 27/8/04 1:00 pm, in article 3130303034323739412F306438@zetnet.co.uk, "Guy > King" <guy.king@zetnet.co.uk> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Montegos are unusual in that the rest of the car rots away before the engine > expires - the Perkins engine is unkillable. It is. If you don't stop when the water temperature rises unexpectedly, anyway. They are known for around the 100k mark, head gasket failures. At least they give you warning all is not well before it is too late. -- JackH The message <BD5500C7.E613%delorean@NOSPAMbtconnect.com> from Richard Kilpatrick <delorean@NOSPAMbtconnect.com> contains these words: > Montegos are unusual in that the rest of the car rots away before the engine > expires - the Perkins engine is unkillable. Provided you look after the head gasket. http://www.skipweasel.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/gasket.jpg Still - it cost less than ?50 to fix - and that included a perfect chance to replace a cambelt of uncertain age. SignatureSkipweasel. Being superstitious brings bad luck > But most of them i found have done at least over 110,000 miles on the > clock. > a bit worry You are going to be looking at 8-10 year old cars for this money and given that average mileage is 12k a year this is hardly suprising. On 27/8/04 12:09 pm, in article FDEXc.54$Dy5.2@newsfe6-win.ntli.net, > i don't really expect it would be trouble-free but at least it should be > reliable-ish. I have been looked at some Citroen ZX Diesel and Mondeo > Diesel. The former will blow the head gasket at around 130,000 miles, if it hasn't already. The latter will scare the crap out of you when it comes to getting the clutch replaced and needs a timing belt at 50,000 intervals with new idlers etc. Diesels are /not/ cheap cars to run at banger level. Richard SignatureApples of various varieties - currently eMac/G5/PowerBook and ancients. Carstuff - Supra and New Beetle, and happy with just two for once. Music stuff - http://www.dmc12.demon.co.uk/music/ - MP3s coming soon! Otherstuff - http://www.dmc12.demon.co.uk/retrotech/ > On 27/8/04 12:09 pm, in article FDEXc.54$Dy5.2@newsfe6-win.ntli.net, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Diesels are /not/ cheap cars to run at banger level. We've had a subset of this discussion before (XUD headgasket reliability), but I'd say they can be. My BXs certainly are. cheers, clive On 27/8/04 3:51 pm, in article cgnhjv$9qp$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk, "Clive George" <clive@xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: > We've had a subset of this discussion before (XUD headgasket reliability), > but I'd say they can be. My BXs certainly are. It seems to be later ones - we had a bunch of them, 1993-5ish with the 1.9 (ZX, Xantia and Ian's 306 and 405) all go at the same time with no common things apart from the mileage. One 205 with 100,000 miles, but again, similar age - 1992 IIRC. Likewise we nearly bought a P-reg 405 estate with 250,000 on the clock, it drove fine. ZXs, though, I would avoid as they seem to have the bulk of the bad engines. The Xantia we could hardly blame, the 1.9 is slow and got thrashed constantly. Richard SignatureApples of various varieties - currently eMac/G5/PowerBook and ancients. Carstuff - Supra and New Beetle, and happy with just two for once. Music stuff - http://www.dmc12.demon.co.uk/music/ - MP3s coming soon! Otherstuff - http://www.dmc12.demon.co.uk/retrotech/ > sorry, i meant i will put 10,000 miles every year on that car. I hope it > could last at 3 years. Try and find a late-ish (97/98) Mk1 Punto with about 50000 miles on it. Check that the head gasket and clutch have already gone and been replaced - the former usually goes at about 35000 miles and the latter at about 45000 miles. Should easily make it to 80k with light servicing, and shouldn't cost too much. HTH Al > Hi, i am looking for a 2nd car for up to 1000 pounds. I got to be reliable > and economical.i will do 10,000 miles on it. What car would you guys > recommend? Any ideas would be appreciated... Perhaps something which has been a rep mobile in the past. Vectra/Cavileer type thing, rather than a newer, smaller car. The bigger cars have a better tendancy to last the distance as they won't have been trashed like the smaller cars (no need) > Hi, i am looking for a 2nd car for up to 1000 pounds. I got to be reliable > and economical.i will do 10,000 miles on it. What car would you guys [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > -------- > Michael others may not agree, i say a v old Toyota, a Celica for example, had many and get one with good body work and the engine and gearbox lasts forever if maintained. May not be everyones cup of eat but you get retro classic sportiness for little cash > others may not agree, i say a v old Toyota, a Celica for example, had many > and get one with good body work and the engine and gearbox lasts forever > if > maintained. May not be everyones cup of eat but you get retro classic > sportiness for little cash Yep, 90(G) Celica was last of the third gen, and you can find examples with only 90k on for ?800. Some even have service history at that price! Al > > others may not agree, i say a v old Toyota, a Celica for example, had many > > and get one with good body work and the engine and gearbox lasts forever [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Al i was thinking more of 70's ear (onyl driver RWD) but yes the ones you mention are great although not as sporty as i would like. differant from usual French stuff > i was thinking more of 70's ear I've got two of them, both from 1971 and still working fine. Servicing has been limited to an occasional rub down with a cotton-bud and I've found them economical, reliable and cheap. In fact, as far as I can see, performance hasn't improved noticeably in the past, ooo, 100,000 years or so, meaning there's little point going for a newer model. SignatureAndrewR, D.Bot (Celeritas) Kawasaki ZX-6R J1 BOTAFOT#2,ITJWTFO#6,UKRMRM#1/13a,MCT#1,DFV#2,SKoGA#0 (and KotL) BotToS#5,SBS#25,IbW#34, TEAR#3 (and KotL), DS#5, COSOC#9, KotTFSTR# The speccy Geordie twat. > > i was thinking more of 70's ear > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > past, ooo, 100,000 years or so, meaning there's little point going for a > newer model. Got a 77 RA28GT and a 79 TA40 which is boring to drive compard to the GT, damn reliable and easy to work on yourself. I must admit i like the driving positions over modern stuff like my chicks clio. Parts are so so from the club TEC. > -- > AndrewR, D.Bot (Celeritas) > Kawasaki ZX-6R J1 > BOTAFOT#2,ITJWTFO#6,UKRMRM#1/13a,MCT#1,DFV#2,SKoGA#0 (and KotL) > BotToS#5,SBS#25,IbW#34, TEAR#3 (and KotL), DS#5, COSOC#9, KotTFSTR# > The speccy Geordie twat. The message <2p95esFimct1U1@uni-berlin.de> from "AndrewR" <andrew@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> contains these words: > occasional rub down with a cotton-bud Never put anything smaller than your elbow in your ear. SignatureSkipweasel. Being superstitious brings bad luck >> i was thinking more of 70's ear > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > in the past, ooo, 100,000 years or so, meaning there's little point > going for a newer model. sure has.. it evolved to the Celica Supra, then they simply made the powerful cars the Supra. > >> i was thinking more of 70's ear > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > sure has.. it evolved to the Celica Supra, then they simply made the > powerful cars the Supra. The straight 6 Supra first Gen (UK anyway) was ok when given the sports and wide arches, i liked the 4WD tubo models but the ST165's etc and FWD didnt exite me. Still damn reliable if you look. The message <Z%DXc.49$Dy5.47@newsfe6-win.ntli.net> from "Michael" <maigege@Microsoft.com> contains these words: > Hi, i am looking for a 2nd car for up to 1000 pounds. Some idea of what you want to use it for would help. My wife's Clio was about that - and is ideal for her - but useless for me. My Montego estate was ?250 - and is ideal for me but useless to her. SignatureSkipweasel. Being superstitious brings bad luck On 27/8/04 11:27 am, in article Z%DXc.49$Dy5.47@newsfe6-win.ntli.net, > Hi, i am looking for a 2nd car for up to 1000 pounds. I got to be reliable > and economical.i will do 10,000 miles on it. What car would you guys > recommend? Any ideas would be appreciated... Is insurance an issue? If not I would recommend a 1987-1990 Golf GTI 5 door 1.8, ideally a 1989/90 model with Digifant (can't remember when it changed, so earlier might have it). They are incredibly reliable, comfortable, will do 45mpg easily (even when being caned), and are available for £1000 or a little less if you shop around carefully. You want unmodified mechanicals, but don't get too fussy about other boy racer bits that may have been added - just as long as the engine, gearbox, suspension and brakes are up to scratch the boy racer bits put people off and make the car cheaper. Obviously if you can find an unmolested one, it would be more sensible. Richard SignatureApples of various varieties - currently eMac/G5/PowerBook and ancients. Carstuff - Supra and New Beetle, and happy with just two for once. Music stuff - http://www.dmc12.demon.co.uk/music/ - MP3s coming soon! Otherstuff - http://www.dmc12.demon.co.uk/retrotech/ >Hi, i am looking for a 2nd car for up to 1000 pounds. I got to be reliable >and economical.i will do 10,000 miles on it. What car would you guys >recommend? Any ideas would be appreciated... Hmm... I would split the 1000 into four bundles of 250 quid. Put 750 into shares and buy a banger for 250 quid which is a private sale and has nothing obviously wrong mechanically, with a year's MoT. You can then afford to buy a lemon and three other cars that are good enough to last the year, hopefully not in that order. Dont' make the mistake of fixing the cars if they go wrong in an important fashion, just move on to the next. Optionally a high miler, ex-salesman car probably fits the bill. People are scared of high miles but these are often properly serviced and have the potential to last pretty well. This can go wrong expensively so you risk the "one shot and you're out" chance of buying a lemon. > Optionally a high miler, ex-salesman car probably fits the bill. People are > scared of high miles but these are often properly serviced and have the > potential to last pretty well. This can go wrong expensively so you risk the > "one shot and you're out" chance of buying a lemon. A Cavalier would seem to fit the bill and would give you a fair bit of change out of a grand. Great repmobiles. Still loads about so easy to get spares (plenty of donor cars at your local scrappy too), dirt cheap to run, simple to work on, economical for its size and later ones don't seem to suffer from tinworm much (apart from the rear wheel arches). (Cue responses of "a *&#"ing CAVALIER???") :o) >> Optionally a high miler, ex-salesman car probably fits the bill. People > are [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > (Cue responses of "a *&#"ing CAVALIER???") :o) I'd still go for what I bought for my wife - a ZX 1.9D Estate. 55-60 mpg. Comfortable ride. A great improvement over her Volvo 740 2.0 automatic estate in my view - but not hers !!! LOL. To keep her company, I sold my Volvo 740 too (2.3 16 valve 4+o/d etc) for a Pug 205D (55-60 mpg too). Yes, we are on an economy drive (lost job etc.) I find that I can run both diesels for less than one Volvo - and that includes insurance etc. I'll know I'm really f.cked when I can only afford one diesel LOL. As a mate of mine remarked (a very good mate btw) - "if you can't afford to run a small old diesel, you should be f.cking walking" > > Optionally a high miler, ex-salesman car probably fits the bill. People > are [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > (Cue responses of "a *&#"ing CAVALIER???") :o) Agree with that! Father bought one for ?300 and had it for over a year now and it is still going strong! Much better than any other car we've bought for a similar price. |
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