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Car Forum / UK Car Forums / General Car Topics (UK group) / August 2004A bit like spam......
I've finally got around to putting the Seat Inca on eBay - giving the old "sensible start price, still quite realistic buy it now price" method a whirl instead of the ?1 no reserve which always leaves me hoping someone else is going to put in a last minute bid :-) http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=astrava nman Also, flogging an old high-mileage BMW 318i on behalf of a mate of a colleague of a mate of mine. Peter > I've finally got around to putting the Seat Inca on eBay - giving the old > "sensible start price, still quite realistic buy it now price" method a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Also, flogging an old high-mileage BMW 318i on behalf of a mate of a > colleague of a mate of mine. you forgot to put (not *insert a list of cars ever made here*) in the title line :) > I've finally got around to putting the Seat Inca on eBay - giving the old > "sensible start price, still quite realistic buy it now price" method a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Also, flogging an old high-mileage BMW 318i on behalf of a mate of a > colleague of a mate of mine. you have weird feeback to mate hehe Vamp loved his monkey enough to say... > > I've finally got around to putting the Seat Inca on eBay - giving the old > > "sensible start price, still quite realistic buy it now price" method a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > you have weird feeback to mate hehe How so? Seems normal to me!  SignatureTrooper usenet@SPAMTRAPtrooperlooper.co.uk (remove the obvious) GamerTag: TrooperNeil > you have weird feeback to mate hehe Have I? How so? Peter >> you have weird feeback to mate hehe > >Have I? How so? Well, it's all in german, for one thing... (Obtains quote that demonstrates the line wrap problem) >whirl instead of the £1 no reserve which always leaves me hoping someone >else is going to put in a last minute bid :-) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Also, flogging an old high-mileage BMW 318i on behalf of a mate of a >colleague of a mate of mine. > you have weird feeback to mate hehe You clicked on an wrapped URL - make sure it's 'astravanman' Signature- Tony Sutton - http://www.hyperboard.co.uk - The Biggest Message Board! ------------------------------------------------------------- Cleanliness is next to clean-limbed, in the dictionary. ------------------------------------------------------------- > > you have weird feeback to mate hehe > > You clicked on an wrapped URL - make sure it's 'astravanman' Heh! I see what he was on about now :-) Peter > > > you have weird feeback to mate hehe > > > > You clicked on an wrapped URL - make sure it's 'astravanman' > > Heh! I see what he was on about now :-) How 'bout the item number - makes it a doddle to find the item in question rather than having to mess about with potentially wrapped URLs which confused at least one poster to this thread. SignatureAbso [at] ukrm [dot] net The FAQ for upce is at http://upce.org.uk and http://ebayfaq.co.uk > > > > you have weird feeback to mate hehe > > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > question rather than having to mess about with potentially wrapped URLs > which confused at least one poster to this thread. <cheap shot> Yeah, but it was vamp... </cheap shot> Douglas > > I've finally got around to putting the Seat Inca on eBay - giving the old > > "sensible start price, still quite realistic buy it now price" method a > > whirl instead of the ?1 no reserve which always leaves me hoping someone > > else is going to put in a last minute bid :-) http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=astrava > > nman > > > > Also, flogging an old high-mileage BMW 318i on behalf of a mate of a > > colleague of a mate of mine. > you have weird feeback to mate hehe Schaut ganz okay dieses Ende. > I've finally got around to putting the Seat Inca on eBay - giving the old > "sensible start price, still quite realistic buy it now price" method a > whirl instead of the ?1 no reserve which always leaves me hoping someone > else is going to put in a last minute bid :-) What were you doing to break a wheel bolt? I'd have fixed this and the V19 bit before selling - got to be worth more than 40 quid on the price. cheers, clive > > I've finally got around to putting the Seat Inca on eBay - giving the old > > "sensible start price, still quite realistic buy it now price" method a > > whirl instead of the ?1 no reserve which always leaves me hoping someone > > else is going to put in a last minute bid :-) > > What were you doing to break a wheel bolt? Tightening it up :-) I really wasn't doing it up *that* tight - felt about right, just nip it up a bit more to be sure.......*bollocks*. > I'd have fixed this and the V19 bit before selling - got to be worth more > than 40 quid on the price. V62 or V5 surely? Yeah, I thought of that, but I'd be waiting even longer for the log book to come through, and I'm quite busy with other things not to mess about getting it to a garage to drill out a remainder of a bolt, plus I'm not insured on it anymore, so would involve getting a mate who is to drive it about for me - all in all, I can't be doing with the hassle and just want rid of it and get most of the cash back I've put into it. Peter > > I'd have fixed this and the V19 bit before selling - got to be worth more > > than 40 quid on the price. > > V62 or V5 surely? Yes, just me getting confused with the 19 quid bit. cheers, clive >> > I've finally got around to putting the Seat Inca on eBay - giving the >old [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Tightening it up :-) I really wasn't doing it up *that* tight - felt about >right, just nip it up a bit more to be sure.......*bollocks*. FWIW, I've had this on alloys where the sleeved nut shears off. If it is sticking out still, i.e. the head rather than the whole thing, then you can grind some flats onto the side through the thread and spanner it off. This is easier than drilling it out. Should be someone else's problem by then, though. > What were you doing to break a wheel bolt? > > I'd have fixed this and the V19 bit before selling - got to be worth > more than 40 quid on the price. Agreed. Especially the logbook. Nobody in their right mind's going to bid on it with that (especially the "it's a long story, but I can explain it - honest, guv, no - really - I can - and it's true. Really. Would I lie to you, mate?") hanging over it. > > What were you doing to break a wheel bolt? > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > honest, guv, no - really - I can - and it's true. Really. Would I lie to > you, mate?") hanging over it. Yeah, if it doesn't go on ebay I'll do exactly that, basically I want it sold with the minimum of hassle really. Peter > > > What were you doing to break a wheel bolt? > > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Yeah, if it doesn't go on ebay I'll do exactly that, basically I want it > sold with the minimum of hassle really. Shouldn't be a problem, but some don't realise what a log book/paper, actually is. Simply a record of the cars keeper. It doesn't mean the person listed is the owner or can legally sell it. You have a receipt from the previous owner. IMO that is better proof of ownership, than a log book. Wouldn't bother me. I baught my Celica without a log book, after checking the seller was the owner. Mike. > > Yeah, if it doesn't go on ebay I'll do exactly that, basically I want it > > sold with the minimum of hassle really. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Wouldn't bother me. I baught my Celica without a log book, after checking > the seller was the owner. Precisely, and I'm kinda going with the idea that the average person buying a van might just have enough street savvy and common sense to realise this, and realise that it doesn't devalue the van by any more than the ?19 plus the cost of the envelope, wear and tear and depreciation on the pen filling in the form, plus time taken to go to the post office to obtain said form, fill the thing in, write out a cheque and post the lot, so about a fiver on top :-) But assuming people to have common sense is a very naive thing to do in this day and age. Peter > Precisely, and I'm kinda going with the idea that the average person > buying a van might just have enough street savvy and common sense to > realise this, and realise that it doesn't devalue the van by any more > than the ?19 plus the cost of the envelope ?19 ? Have they changed things again ? It shouldn't normally cost anything to get a new logbook when ownership has transferred... SignatureLordy > > Precisely, and I'm kinda going with the idea that the average person > > buying a van might just have enough street savvy and common sense to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Have they changed things again ? It shouldn't normally cost anything to > get a new logbook when ownership has transferred... Does if you don't have the original to send off, unless I'm mistaken... -- JackH > > > realise this, and realise that it doesn't devalue the van by > > > any more than the ?19 plus the cost of the envelope [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Does if you don't have the original to send off, unless I'm mistaken... So it's changed then (perhaps when the new style logbooks came into play...) ? 'cos you never used to have to pay them - I've sent off for loads of new logbooks using only the PO form. SignatureLordy > > > > realise this, and realise that it doesn't devalue the van by > > > > any more than the ?19 plus the cost of the envelope [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > play...) ? 'cos you never used to have to pay them - I've sent off > for loads of new logbooks using only the PO form. All part of the becoming an 'agency', one assumes. -- JackH >> You have a receipt from the previous owner. IMO that is better proof >> of ownership, than a log book. >> Wouldn't bother me. I baught my Celica without a log book, after >> checking the seller was the owner. > Precisely, and I'm kinda going with the idea that the average person > buying a van might just have enough street savvy and common sense to > realise this Have you not seen any of the dozens of DVLA adverts? The ones saying "Look, don't buy anything without a V5, because it's probably nicked"? > >> You have a receipt from the previous owner. IMO that is better proof > >> of ownership, than a log book. > >> Wouldn't bother me. I baught my Celica without a log book, after > >> checking the seller was the owner. > > Precisely, and I'm kinda going with the idea that the average person > > buying a van might just have enough street savvy and common sense to > > realise this > Have you not seen any of the dozens of DVLA adverts? The ones saying "Look, > don't buy anything without a V5, because it's probably nicked"? Yes... but he's a registered seller on eBay, and is selling it through their website. In other words, he's shown proof of his ID by way of a bank card, to get a sellers account. Not only that, but he's been registered since May 02, and has a positive rating of 32 at the moment - that's 32 deals where he's not pissed the other persons about, over a period stretching more than two years. Anyone who gets their fingers burnt buying an iffy motor, V5 present or not, needs to open their eyes more, and not place implicit faith in one or two pieces of paper. -- JackH >>>> You have a receipt from the previous owner. IMO that is better >>>> proof of ownership, than a log book. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > pissed the other persons about, over a period stretching more than > two years. It's becoming very common for people to have their eBay accounts hacked - usually by these fake sites asking you to confirm your details. They're then used by fraudsters. I agree though, it's obviously an honest sale. > >> Have you not seen any of the dozens of DVLA adverts? The ones saying > >> "Look, don't buy anything without a V5, because it's probably > >> nicked"? > > Yes... but he's a registered seller on eBay, and is selling it > > through their website. > > In other words, he's shown proof of his ID by way of a bank card, to > > get a sellers account. > > Not only that, but he's been registered since May 02, and has a > > positive rating of 32 at the moment - that's 32 deals where he's not > > pissed the other persons about, over a period stretching more than > > two years. > It's becoming very common for people to have their eBay accounts hacked - > usually by these fake sites asking you to confirm your details. > They're then used by fraudsters. I agree though, it's obviously an honest > sale. Oh, obviously... it's the sheepskin jacket and pork pie hat that do it for me... That aside, it's a bit different when the deal is for something as large as a van, rather than something they can mace you up with by not sending it through the post. I was amazed a year or so ago - I sold one of my cars through eBay, and the bloke put all the money for it into my bank account (not even via something like Paypal), having not seen the car until I delivered it. He was happy with it, but it just goes to show how the more unscrupulous could pull a fast one, if they really wanted to. -- JackH >> > Precisely, and I'm kinda going with the idea that the average >> > person buying a van might just have enough street savvy and common >> > sense to realise this >> Have you not seen any of the dozens of DVLA adverts? The ones saying >> "Look, don't buy anything without a V5, because it's probably nicked"? > Yes... but he's a registered seller on eBay, and is selling it through > their website. Oh, well, that's proof positive he's not a scammer, then, isn't it? </sarcasm> > Anyone who gets their fingers burnt buying an iffy motor, V5 present > or not, needs to open their eyes more, and not place implicit faith in > one or two pieces of paper. You know Peter's "straight", I know it. We all do here. HOWEVER, there is a VERY good chance that at least one casual fleaBay browser will get enough of an iffy feeling that they won't bid - especially if there's another similar van with a V5. The ?19 will probably be smaller than the difference in closing price... I s'pose a better way of thinking of it is that you wouldn't try and flog something with a month's MOT on - and an MOT's twice the price of getting the paperwork in order. Gotta be worth it, hasn't it? > >> > Precisely, and I'm kinda going with the idea that the average > >> > person buying a van might just have enough street savvy and common [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Oh, well, that's proof positive he's not a scammer, then, isn't it? > </sarcasm> The rest of the stuff I said with regards to his ID, which you snipped, almost certainly is... -- JackH >> > Yes... but he's a registered seller on eBay, and is selling it >> > through their website. >> Oh, well, that's proof positive he's not a scammer, then, isn't it? >> </sarcasm> > The rest of the stuff I said with regards to his ID, which you > snipped, almost certainly is... Excluding the possibility of a hijacked account, of course. But we're getting away from my point - Getting that lack-of-v5 sorted is a cheap way to remove a big potential stumbling block to a sale. > >> > Yes... but he's a registered seller on eBay, and is selling it > >> > through their website. > > >> Oh, well, that's proof positive he's not a scammer, then, isn't it? > >> </sarcasm> > > The rest of the stuff I said with regards to his ID, which you > > snipped, almost certainly is... > Excluding the possibility of a hijacked account, of course. Well of course, you read about things like this everyday with regards to vehicle sales on ebay, and wouldn't be collecting a vehicle for a persons home address, where they will of course show you other proof of ID related to said address, would you? At least if you were thick with pots of money to burn, never mind ensuring the vehicle was as described, you wouldn't be... > But we're getting away from my point - Getting that lack-of-v5 sorted is a > cheap way to remove a big potential stumbling block to a sale. If you have time, yes; depending on why you never had it in the first place, it can take weeks to come through. -- JackH |
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