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SOR - 28 Jul 2005 17:41 GMT
www.sparesorrepair.co.uk
(buy or sell mot failures , spares ,  or cars with a mot)

I dont need the webspace or the bandwidth or anything - just sick of the
sight of it and it needs a good bit of the php code rewritten .

It wasnt a complete loss though as I learnt some basic php skills in
getting the adverts working .

Would keep it going if I thought there was any chance of people starting
to use it but lets be honest and say that just isnt going to happen
without spending the money to promote it .


Sniff :-)
petermcmillan_uk@yahoo.com - 28 Jul 2005 18:40 GMT
> www.sparesorrepair.co.uk
> (buy or sell mot failures , spares ,  or cars with a mot)
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> to use it but lets be honest and say that just isnt going to happen
> without spending the money to promote it .

Such a shame :-(

It can be hard to make people aware of a website.  Unfortunately I
haven't had any need to trade cars or car parts.  I have a website, but
just just seems to sit there not doing anything (and it's also pretty
rubbish anyway).
fishman - 29 Jul 2005 09:54 GMT
Don't give up, try www.cardellmedia.co.uk www.yourbusinesssuccess.co.uk
and www.planetearthradio.com plenty of advice for promoting your
business on there, including the website.

I think Chris Cardell is great!
AUSSIE BONGO - 29 Jul 2005 10:31 GMT
"fishman" <SPAMMEIFYOULIKEBUTIWONTREADIT@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1122627253.159951.58<snipped>050@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Don't give up, try <snipped>
> and <snipped> plenty of advice for promoting your
> business on there, including the website.
>
> I think Chris Cardell is great!

i think he is a spammer
fishman - 29 Jul 2005 16:04 GMT
>i think he is a spammer

Nope, I was offering genuine advice google me and you'll find I post
loads on the uk.rec.cars.* mainly the one ending in .modifications

My friend swears by the Cardell stuff and I'm impressed with a lot of
it that I've seen too, though I can't put it into practice as I don't
have my own business.

I think it's worthwhile recommending it when I think it'd help.
Andy Turner - 29 Jul 2005 09:57 GMT
>www.sparesorrepair.co.uk
>(buy or sell mot failures , spares ,  or cars with a mot)
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>to use it but lets be honest and say that just isnt going to happen
>without spending the money to promote it .

Promotion only gets people to look at your website. But if they then
don't like what they see, they're not going to use it and probably not
going to return. So whilst spending effort promoting it is sensible,
you have to make sure that the site no longer looks like a dog's
dinner when they get there.

It seemed to work well enough though, implying that your skills lie
more with PHP and HTML than Photoshop and of course your English.

andyt
PC Paul - 29 Jul 2005 10:42 GMT
>> www.sparesorrepair.co.uk
>> (buy or sell mot failures , spares ,  or cars with a mot)
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> It seemed to work well enough though, implying that your skills lie
> more with PHP and HTML than Photoshop and of course your English.

I have to say that after putting my car on there for sale (now sold and
deposit paid but not yet collected...) I was all set to offer helpful advice
on layout, typos etc.

Then I saw how you responded to somebody else doing that, and I thought 'Oh
well....'

Take help from anyone who offers it. Life is too short and hard to try and
do it all on your own...
Max Cady - 29 Jul 2005 14:31 GMT
<uk.rec.cars.misc , PC Paul , me@home.com>
<6SmGe.51436$Pf3.29028@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>
<Fri, 29 Jul 2005 09:42:26 GMT>

> > It seemed to work well enough though, implying that your skills lie
> > more with PHP and HTML than Photoshop and of course your English.
>
> I have to say that after putting my car on there for sale (now sold and
> deposit paid but not yet collected...) I was all set to offer helpful advice
> on layout, typos etc.

Usenet is full of web experts who dont even have a website .

Andy Turner - 29 Jul 2005 18:33 GMT
><uk.rec.cars.misc , PC Paul , me@home.com>
><6SmGe.51436$Pf3.29028@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>Usenet is full of web experts who dont even have a website .

Very few of your visitors will be web experts either. They'll get the
same vibe from a site that anyone would. Besides, you don't have to
run a website to understand websites and know a good one from a crap
one.

andyt
Max Cady - 29 Jul 2005 19:35 GMT
<uk.rec.cars.misc , Andy Turner , andyt@nospam.demon.co.uk>
<7rpke1hpg9p0c56p793d83m36tdir7jip9@4ax.com>
<Fri, 29 Jul 2005 17:33:14 GMT>

> >Usenet is full of web experts who dont even have a website .
>
> Very few of your visitors will be web experts either. They'll get the
> same vibe from a site that anyone would. Besides, you don't have to
> run a website to understand websites and know a good one from a crap
> one.

You said yourself it worked ok .

Is your definition of a crap website one that looks bad .
Andy Turner - 29 Jul 2005 20:05 GMT
><uk.rec.cars.misc , Andy Turner , andyt@nospam.demon.co.uk>
><7rpke1hpg9p0c56p793d83m36tdir7jip9@4ax.com>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>You said yourself it worked ok .

Technically, sure. However, functionally it was dodgy and presentation
wise it was ugly and looked unprofessional. It looked like a little
demo project and that it wasn't worth using because it looked like the
webmaster had got bored and was unlikely to maintain it. And lo and
behold, that's the situation.

>Is your definition of a crap website one that looks bad .

Is that a question?

andyt
Max Cady - 31 Jul 2005 20:42 GMT
<uk.rec.cars.misc , Andy Turner , andyt@nospam.demon.co.uk>
<f8vke1tr5o9erf29e5f9amd4m03p1dk0c0@4ax.com>
<Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:05:13 GMT>

> >You said yourself it worked ok .
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> webmaster had got bored and was unlikely to maintain it. And lo and
> behold, that's the situation.

www.vhit.co.uk

You may as well tell me what you think of my latest effort .
AstraVanMan - 31 Jul 2005 20:59 GMT
>> >You said yourself it worked ok .
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> You may as well tell me what you think of my latest effort .

I think you should make it clear exactly what makes your site different from
the others, like tinyurl and makeashorterlink.

Signature

Peter

"You're not a real UKRCMer until you've owned a Rover 620ti."

Max Cady - 31 Jul 2005 21:15 GMT
<uk.rec.cars.misc , AstraVanMan ,
Peter@Whataloadofforeskinbollocks.co.uk>
<n4aHe.12086$Aw4.11004@newsfe5-win.ntli.net>
<Sun, 31 Jul 2005 19:59:15 GMT>

> > www.vhit.co.uk
> >
> > You may as well tell me what you think of my latest effort .
>
> I think you should make it clear exactly what makes your site different from
> the others, like tinyurl and makeashorterlink.

I aint no wordsmith ..... ask andy :-)

TMK the only real difference is most of the other websites dont ask or
they auto redirect you after 5-10 seconds or whatever .

Dont know about anybody else but I almost never click on a tiny url etc
unless I know and trust the user because of the auto redirect and the
fact it could take you anywhere .
AstraVanMan - 31 Jul 2005 21:47 GMT
>> > www.vhit.co.uk
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> unless I know and trust the user because of the auto redirect and the
> fact it could take you anywhere .

I'm not convinced on this.  The vast majority of uses of redirection
services like TinyURL (which is to URL redirection like Hoover is to vaccuum
cleaner) are used by people sending links to friends and acquaintances
either by email or on newsgroups.  I suppose you might have a point - an
unknown poster may come along with a TinyURL, which could be spam or a
virus, or could be something useful, so it could well be worth it.

But my point was that, IMHO, you didn't make it very clear that that was
what made the service you offer, different from the others.

Signature

Peter

"You're not a real UKRCMer until you've owned a Rover 620ti."

Max Cady - 31 Jul 2005 22:12 GMT
<uk.rec.cars.misc , AstraVanMan ,
Peter@Whataloadofforeskinbollocks.co.uk>
<ZNaHe.5779$n97.4599@newsfe1-win.ntli.net>
<Sun, 31 Jul 2005 20:47:53 GMT>

> > Dont know about anybody else but I almost never click on a tiny url etc
> > unless I know and trust the user because of the auto redirect and the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> unknown poster may come along with a TinyURL, which could be spam or a
> virus, or could be something useful, so it could well be worth it.

Each to their own - although I was only thinking of newsgroups .

> But my point was that, IMHO, you didn't make it very clear that that was
> what made the service you offer, different from the others.

Fair enough will sleep on it and decide how to word it so its clear and
gets the point across .

R. Murphy - 29 Jul 2005 19:45 GMT
Not sure why you are advertising online cannabis sales?

> www.sparesorrepair.co.uk
> (buy or sell mot failures , spares ,  or cars with a mot)
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Sniff :-)
AstraVanMan - 29 Jul 2005 19:51 GMT
> Not sure why you are advertising online cannabis sales?

Because it's illegal to buy the stuff on the street?

Signature

Peter

"You're not a real UKRCMer until you've owned a Rover 620ti."

Grimly Curmudgeon - 30 Jul 2005 01:27 GMT
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "R. Murphy"
<newspam@murphy9100.fsnet.co.uk> saying something like:

>Not sure why you are advertising online cannabis sales?

Because by the time you get around to advertising your old sh.tter on
there, you need a good toke.
Signature


Dave

Max Cady - 30 Jul 2005 17:32 GMT
<uk.rec.cars.misc , R. Murphy , newspam@murphy9100.fsnet.co.uk>
<dcdtfc$ubq$2@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>
<Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:45:00 +0100>

> Not sure why you are advertising online cannabis sales?

Because even though its about 2 years old about 20-30 people a day still
click on the add to basket button .

The odd one will even leave a comment :-)

www.cannabiswindow.co.uk/suckers.php
 
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