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Car Forum / UK Car Forums / General Car Topics (UK group) / September 2003

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Tyre repairs ?, damaged sidewall.

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noone@demon.co.uk - 25 Sep 2003 17:38 GMT
I clipped a kirb last night and cut a small 1cm long slit in a tire, is it
possible to get this repaired or is it a waste of time (e.g. unsafe/repair
will not hold long term) ?.

Thanks.

Clive.
Phil Howard - 25 Sep 2003 17:49 GMT
> I clipped a kirb last night and cut a small 1cm long slit in a tire, is it
> possible to get this repaired or is it a waste of time (e.g. unsafe/repair
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>
> Clive.

You'll need a new tyre; nowhere should atempt a sidewall repair.  Swap for
your spare ASAP and get a new tyre.  If not, it could result in a blow out
at any time.
Mike G - 26 Sep 2003 02:43 GMT
> I clipped a kirb last night and cut a small 1cm long slit in a tire, is it
> possible to get this repaired or is it a waste of time (e.g. unsafe/repair
> will not hold long term) ?.

Any reputable tyre Co will refuse to repair any tyre with a
puncture in, or damage to the sidewall. Meaning anywhere between
the turn of the shoulder to the rim of the wheel. The consensus
is that it is unsafe, because of the amount of flexing that area
of the tyre receives.
Mike.
noone@demon.co.uk - 26 Sep 2003 08:53 GMT
Thank you both for your replies, I guess I just needed some other people to
say the same as I'm thinking to be sure.

I can't see how a sidewall coldl be successfully repaired with all of the
pressure placed on it.

Thanks.

Clive.
Dave Spam - 28 Sep 2003 22:54 GMT
> Thank you both for your replies, I guess I just needed some other people to
> say the same as I'm thinking to be sure.
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>
> Clive.

Yep - I had to scrap and replace a motorbike tyre after 129 miles of use
following vandal damage. I was not happy but as an OP mentions it's the
only thing between you and the road.

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Dave Plowman - 26 Sep 2003 10:13 GMT
> I clipped a kirb last night and cut a small 1cm long slit in a tire, is
> it possible to get this repaired or is it a waste of time (e.g.
> unsafe/repair will not hold long term) ?.

How deep is the cut? If the carcase is showing or it's bulging at the cut
it's scrap. If it's only damage to the rubber I wouldn't worry.

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Charles Holder - 26 Sep 2003 23:53 GMT
> > I clipped a kirb last night and cut a small 1cm long slit in a tire, is
> > it possible to get this repaired or is it a waste of time (e.g.
> > unsafe/repair will not hold long term) ?.
>
> How deep is the cut? If the carcase is showing or it's bulging at the cut
> it's scrap. If it's only damage to the rubber I wouldn't worry.

I am no expert and I would be pleased to have one comment.

However tyres are the only thing that keep you on the road, and only an area
about half the size of your foot print is in contact at any one time.

Just slowly driving up a kerb, can cause a low compression fracture of the
wall that under extreme conditions could prove fatal.

I cringe when I see drivers mounting the kerb.

Hitting a kerb can cause damage to steering and suspension..(Even only a
slight touch )

Unfortunately you don't know what damage you have caused, but if you do have
a blow out, you might not only kill yourself but someone else.

And it might be me !
Dave Plowman - 29 Sep 2003 01:38 GMT
> I am no expert and I would be pleased to have one comment.

> However tyres are the only thing that keep you on the road, and only an
> area about half the size of your foot print is in contact at any one
> time.

I don't think the tyres would keep you on the road if a wheel came off due
to studs shearing after being over tightened. Or if a suspension or
steering part broke.

> Just slowly driving up a kerb, can cause a low compression fracture of
> the wall that under extreme conditions could prove fatal.

Why should driving up a kerb slowly cause more damage than a rut taken at
speed?

> I cringe when I see drivers mounting the kerb.

You'd do a *lot* of cringing round here then - lots of parking bays are
half on, half off the pavement. With normal kerbs.

> Hitting a kerb can cause damage to steering and suspension..(Even only a
> slight touch )

That's just not so. If a slight touch damaged the steering and suspension,
pretty well every car would be damaged.

> Unfortunately you don't know what damage you have caused, but if you do
> have a blow out, you might not only kill yourself but someone else.

This could be said of all sorts of things safety wise with cars. Not just
tyres and kerbs.

> And it might be me !

Best go by tube, then.

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noone@demon.co.uk - 29 Sep 2003 08:51 GMT
I probably should have said this in my original post but I did not
intentionaly hit the kerb.

A dark green Saxo decided that it liked the lane I was in so much that it
pulled out sharply into it right infront of me without indicating narrowly
missing me !.

Clive.

> I cringe when I see drivers mounting the kerb.
Huw - 29 Sep 2003 21:04 GMT
"Charles Holder" <charles@holder.freeserve.co.uk> wrote >
> I am no expert and I would be pleased to have one comment.
>
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> Unfortunately you don't know what damage you have caused, but if you do have
> a blow out, you might not only kill yourself but someone else.

And if Auntie had balls she would be 'Uncle'.
Thank goodness both cars and tyres are more robust than you suggest
otherwise our fleet would have new tyres every week were it not for
the vehicles being semi-permanently in dry dock having their
suspension and steering repaired LOL.
 
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