My sister just failed her test on the 23rd August. The earliest she can book
a re-test is 26th October!!! over 2 months away. Her instructor has
obviously been taking her round about where our local test centre is on
likely routes.
She now has a choice of waiting over 2 months to go to the same test centre,
or wait 3 weeks and go to the next furthest test centre away from us, but it
means she'll be unfamiliar with the area and her current instructor doesn't
want to take her there.
Is it just me or is a 2 month wait between driving tests just incredibly
long, especially for someone who barely failed?
PC Paul - 25 Aug 2005 21:48 GMT
> My sister just failed her test on the 23rd August. The earliest she
> can book a re-test is 26th October!!! over 2 months away. Her
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> Is it just me or is a 2 month wait between driving tests just
> incredibly long, especially for someone who barely failed?
I guess you weren't reading a while ago...
The test isn't *that* hard to pass. If you can't you need to practice more.
You can't just keep retaking it every week or two until you happen to get
everything right on the day.
IIRC I was in favour of starting with a couple of months between retests and
doubling it every time you fail.
mo - 25 Aug 2005 22:18 GMT
> You can't just keep retaking it every week or two until you happen to get
> everything right on the day.
Wanna bet? Thats probably how a LOT of people pass.
The waiting time for when I did mine was min 6 weeks and sometimes upto 3
months. I considered the next closest one as well but its a place called
'forrest hills' so i didnt much fancy attemping that area!!
PC Paul - 25 Aug 2005 22:21 GMT
>> You can't just keep retaking it every week or two until you happen
>> to get everything right on the day.
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> place called 'forrest hills' so i didnt much fancy attemping that
> area!!
OK, OK. You *shouldn't* be able to do that. I know you *can*.
And isn't that a scary thought?
mo - 26 Aug 2005 00:39 GMT
>>> You can't just keep retaking it every week or two until you happen
>>> to get everything right on the day.
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>
> And isn't that a scary thought?
why is it? surley if you are good enough but had something happen that
caused you to fail you should try again straight away?
PC Paul - 26 Aug 2005 09:42 GMT
>>>> You can't just keep retaking it every week or two until you happen
>>>> to get everything right on the day.
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> why is it? surley if you are good enough but had something happen that
> caused you to fail you should try again straight away?
If 'something happens' and you deal with it corrcetly, then you'll pass. I
was reversing round a corner in mine and slammed the brakes on. The
instructor looked displeased until he looked closer and saw the child on a
tricycle who had wheeled straight out of their garden gate heading fast to
behind the car. He commented afterwards that I'd coped well.
'Something happens' frequently on the roads. If you can't cope with it,
should you be driving around?
AstraVanMan - 26 Aug 2005 17:24 GMT
>>> The waiting time for when I did mine was min 6 weeks and sometimes
>>> upto 3 months. I considered the next closest one as well but its a
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> why is it? surley if you are good enough but had something happen that
> caused you to fail you should try again straight away?
Something happen that caused you to fail? That would only be something that
was within your control? Why shouldn't there be a wait? The test centre
isn't just there for your benefit. If they're booked up, they're booked up.
Simple as that.

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mo - 26 Aug 2005 17:52 GMT
> Something happen that caused you to fail? That would only be something
> that was within your control? Why shouldn't there be a wait? The test
> centre isn't just there for your benefit. If they're booked up, they're
> booked up. Simple as that.
I wasnt arguing that - i was just saying if you cock up on something one day
you may not do it the next time and theres no real reason why you shouldn't
try as soon as possible
simple as.
AstraVanMan - 26 Aug 2005 18:47 GMT
>> Something happen that caused you to fail? That would only be something
>> that was within your control? Why shouldn't there be a wait? The test
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> simple as.
Apart from the fact that there's got to be an examiner available to do the
test. If they're booked up for the next 2 months, then tough sh.t. That's
life.
If someone's on the knife edge of failing anyway, then they're going to be
absolutely hopeless post-test. There's a hell of a lot of learning to do in
the real world after passing the test anyway, so the level required to pass
is an absolute bare minimum. If they make one mistake that's big enough to
fail (and minor faults *are* recognised as such) then they're clearly not up
to the task.
If they wanted a closer test date then they could phone around all the test
centres in the country, and see if they could get a nearer date.
Or they could have booked a slightly later one in the first place, practised
more and made sure that they were up to the task in the first place.

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Mark Rae - 25 Aug 2005 21:56 GMT
>My sister just failed her test on the 23rd August. The earliest she can book
>a re-test is 26th October!!! over 2 months away.
That sounds like a fairly average wait. What she should do now is
keep calling the booking centre at least twice every day and
check for any cancellations. She should be able to get a
new test before the end of september that way.
-Mark
Mike G - 26 Aug 2005 00:54 GMT
> My sister just failed her test on the 23rd August. The earliest she can book
> a re-test is 26th October!!! over 2 months away. Her instructor has
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> means she'll be unfamiliar with the area and her current instructor doesn't
> want to take her there.
It could be argued that if learner needs to know the road in order to pass
the driving test, maybe they don't deserve a full licence anyway.
I took my test on roads that I'de never driven on before. Maybe all driving
tests should be given in unfamiliar areas.
> Is it just me or is a 2 month wait between driving tests just incredibly
> long, especially for someone who barely failed?
It's probably longer than she needs to make the improvements needed to pass,
so it's frustrating to say the least.
I think she should take the one in 3 weeks time. If she is competent enough
she should be able to pass anywhere.
Mike.
krystnors - 26 Aug 2005 09:54 GMT
> it
> > means she'll be unfamiliar with the area and her current instructor
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> I took my test on roads that I'de never driven on before. Maybe all driving
> tests should be given in unfamiliar areas.
I agree that passing the test isn't hard, but nerves can do amazing things.
I'm not so sure if you're correct about a learner needing to know the road
in order to pass the driving test.
When I took my car test, many moons ago, it was in an area I knew very well,
but nerves got the better of me and I failed. I passed second time round on
a different route I wasn't so familiar with.
When I took my PSV and HGV tests they were in areas I'd never been in.
Nerves hardly got a look in and I passed them first time.
krystnors
Mike G - 26 Aug 2005 10:34 GMT
> > it
> > > means she'll be unfamiliar with the area and her current instructor
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> I'm not so sure if you're correct about a learner needing to know the road
> in order to pass the driving test.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you. I'm not saying that. I'm saying a driver
'shouldn't' need to know the roads if they are competent enough to pass the
test.
Nerves can be a problem with any exam.
Mike.
AstraVanMan - 26 Aug 2005 17:32 GMT
>> I agree that passing the test isn't hard, but nerves can do amazing
>> things.
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> test.
> Nerves can be a problem with any exam.
Nerves can be a problem with many things in life. We've all got to just
deal with things and accept fuckups as and when they happen though.

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krystnors - 28 Aug 2005 14:36 GMT
> > I agree that passing the test isn't hard, but nerves can do amazing
> things.
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> test.
> Nerves can be a problem with any exam.
Agreed. But doing anything for the first time is always treat with a little
caution.
krystnors
Andy Turner - 26 Aug 2005 10:42 GMT
>When I took my PSV and HGV tests they were in areas I'd never been in.
>Nerves hardly got a look in and I passed them first time.
My test was mostly in an area that I wasn't familiar with. However, I
remember thinking "it's nice around here". About 15 years later and
now I live here!
Problem is, there's always fecking learner drivers doing 10mph and
spending 10 minutes on a road-blocking 3-point turn when I'm trying to
get home!! It seems to be a favourite area amongst instructors and
examiners!
andyt
krystnors - 28 Aug 2005 14:38 GMT
> >When I took my PSV and HGV tests they were in areas I'd never been in.
> >Nerves hardly got a look in and I passed them first time.
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> get home!! It seems to be a favourite area amongst instructors and
> examiners!
Heh heh! And for some damned stupid reason it never occurred to you that
learner drivers used that part of the road.
krystnors