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-=D@n=- - 26 Oct 2005 15:56 GMT

...this car.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4584719930

Thanks

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NeedforSwede2 - 26 Oct 2005 16:36 GMT

> ...this car.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4584719930
>
> Thanks

They have built one or two tidy motors.
http://www.system-r.co.uk/

http://www.system-r.co.uk/system-r%20suppliers%20of%20japanese%20tuning%
20accessories-carsdetail.asp?20

http://www.system-r.co.uk/system-r%20suppliers%20of%20japanese%20tuning%
20accessories-carsdetail.asp?5

And they aren't far from where I live.

If I ver get a Prelude VTEC, I may just call in.

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-=D@n=- - 26 Oct 2005 17:11 GMT

>> ...this car.
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> If I ver get a Prelude VTEC, I may just call in.

Cool, I'm in WA3 :)

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conkersack@yahoo.com - 26 Oct 2005 19:08 GMT

WA4 here

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-=D@n=- - 26 Oct 2005 21:16 GMT

> WA4 here

Cool, we're having a Warrington love fest!

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NeedforSwede2 - 27 Oct 2005 08:31 GMT

> > WA4 here
>
> Cool, we're having a Warrington love fest!

Aye, big up the WA2 massif.

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-=D@n=- - 27 Oct 2005 09:28 GMT

>>> WA4 here
>>
>> Cool, we're having a Warrington love fest!
>>
> Aye, big up the WA2 massif.

Holler!

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NeedforSwede2 - 26 Oct 2005 23:06 GMT

>And they aren't far from where I live.

WA2

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Derek - 28 Oct 2005 20:34 GMT

> >And they aren't far from where I live.
> >
> WA2

WA14 here ( we be in trafford)
Derek

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conkersack@yahoo.com - 28 Oct 2005 21:15 GMT

> WA14 here ( we be in trafford)

Altrincham by any chance?

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Mike G - 26 Oct 2005 18:18 GMT

> ...this car.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4584719930

If it were RWD I might be interested. FWD not my cup of tea at all..
Mike.

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-=D@n=- - 26 Oct 2005 21:16 GMT

>> ...this car.
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4584719930
>
> If it were RWD I might be interested. FWD not my cup of tea at all..
> Mike.

Oh , I know it's not a proper car. But I love the VTEC smack, it's
addictive.

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Vamp - 26 Oct 2005 19:06 GMT

> ...this car.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4584719930

MMMMM wish i could be mature enough for such dream jap crap :)

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-=D@n=- - 26 Oct 2005 21:17 GMT

>> ...this car.
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4584719930
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> MMMMM wish i could be mature enough for such dream jap crap :)

Lol, you should stick to a Honda Logo for a while ;)

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SteveH - 26 Oct 2005 21:20 GMT

> ...this car.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4584719930
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> Thanks

Why? - it's a Honda Civic.

You could buy a proper car for £12k.

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-=D@n=- - 27 Oct 2005 09:30 GMT

>> ...this car.
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> You could buy a proper car for £12k.

I love the smack that the VTEC gives you. It's different. And I imagine with
a supercharger giving it another 100bhp it will be a whole lot of fun. I had
an Accord Type-R a few years ago and loved it, luckily someone else was
paying for the fuel. I was getting about 240 miles to a full tank. O_O

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Steve Walker - 27 Oct 2005 10:08 GMT

>I love the smack that the VTEC gives you. It's different. And I imagine with
>a supercharger giving it another 100bhp it will be a whole lot of fun.

I wonder how much less distinctive it is with a supercharger. There are
some dyno charts for supercharged VTEC engines here:

http://www.hondata.com/dynocharts.html

It looks as if the main effect is to mask the effect of the VTEC cam
change point. Can't see the point myself. The point of the CTR is the
love it or hate it engine and gearbox, the rest of it is pretty average.
Modifying it so that it behaves more like a non-VTEC engine seems like a
waste of time, you'd be better off buying a Golf GTi or Impreza and
chipping that instead.

In any case, 300bhp and front wheel drive? The standard CTR puts the
power down well in the dry so long as you have a little sensitivity, but
300bhp (which practically speaking you're only ever going to see on the
road in second and maybe third gear)?

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-=D@n=- - 27 Oct 2005 10:33 GMT

>> I love the smack that the VTEC gives you. It's different. And I
>> imagine with a supercharger giving it another 100bhp it will be a
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> but 300bhp (which practically speaking you're only ever going to see
> on the road in second and maybe third gear)?

Yeah well, when you look at it with a reasoned and mature approach like
yours then it does seem a bit pointless.

But, I wouldn't mind a go in this: http://www.hondata.com/dynoramair.html

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Vamp - 27 Oct 2005 23:05 GMT

>>I love the smack that the VTEC gives you. It's different. And I imagine
>>with
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> (which practically speaking you're only ever going to see on the road in
> second and maybe third gear)?

second? third? not if you'r me but meh look where that's got me :)

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Steve Walker - 28 Oct 2005 20:45 GMT

>"Steve Walker" <steve@otolith.demon.co.uk> wrote in message

>> In any case, 300bhp and front wheel drive? The standard CTR puts the power
>> down well in the dry so long as you have a little sensitivity, but 300bhp
>> (which practically speaking you're only ever going to see on the road in
>> second and maybe third gear)?

>second? third? not if you'r me but meh look where that's got me :)

Peak power in fourth in the standard car is almost 100mph....

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NeedforSwede2 - 28 Oct 2005 07:23 GMT

>In any case, 300bhp and front wheel drive? The standard CTR puts the
>power down well in the dry so long as you have a little sensitivity, but
>300bhp (which practically speaking you're only ever going to see on the
>road in second and maybe third gear)?

300horse FWD 'taint nuthn'
http://www.maptun.com/cars.php?id=33
http://www.maptun.com/cars.php?id=110
http://www.maptun.com/cars.php?id=10
http://www.maptun.com/cars.php?id=30

And they are all "Old" cars driven by "Old" men, not something for young
kids with halfway decent reactions.

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Steve Walker - 28 Oct 2005 20:47 GMT

>>In any case, 300bhp and front wheel drive? The standard CTR puts the
>>power down well in the dry so long as you have a little sensitivity, but
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>And they are all "Old" cars driven by "Old" men, not something for young
>kids with halfway decent reactions.

Christ, someone looked at a SAAB 9000 Aero and said "what this car
really needs is a bit more torque steer"?

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NeedforSwede2 - 29 Oct 2005 18:09 GMT

>>>In any case, 300bhp and front wheel drive? The standard CTR puts the
>>>power down well in the dry so long as you have a little sensitivity, but
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>Christ, someone looked at a SAAB 9000 Aero and said "what this car
>really needs is a bit more torque steer"?

Good isn't it.
I do know of several 300+ BHP, and 1 400+ 9000 Aero daily drivers.
The 400+ is a Maptun stage 6+ conversion. He travels down from Scotland
for english events and trackdays, including Goodwood, Angelsey and
Elvington.

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Ken - 27 Oct 2005 12:12 GMT

>> Why? - it's a Honda Civic.
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> else was paying for the fuel. I was getting about 240 miles to a full
> tank. O_O

I hankered after a Vtec until I test drove a Civic Aerodeck 1.8 Vtec. Was
fast, engine was nice (but virtually useless on real world roads), but I
couldn't live with the rest of the car, dull, dull, dull. I couldn't put my
finger on what exactly was dull, the vehicle just oozed dullness!
Same day, same forecourt, I tried a yr newer Legacy Estate with base engine
(2litre) and 'family' spec suspension, it was quite slow off the line as
you'd imagine, however the rest of the car made up for it. So much much more
cohesive, complete, interesting and of course theres the pure understated
sound of that boxer engine which hadn't been amplified a hundred times by
some farting tin can backbox.

Ken

<Saab 900 Turbo 16>

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Vamp - 27 Oct 2005 23:04 GMT

>>> Why? - it's a Honda Civic.
>>>
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> understated sound of that boxer engine which hadn't been amplified a
> hundred times by some farting tin can backbox.

i like amplified scoobs :(

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