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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/98-S-Reg-E36-Bmw-318-is-Every-BMW-M-Tech-Extra-More_W0QQit emZ250097568324QQcategoryZ9837QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem <spammed ebay auction> No, it's not a bargain. Three and a bit grand for a 9yo E36 318...? Are you a f.cking comedian, or just stuck in a time warp? Oh, and you're illiterate, too. > <spammed ebay auction> > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Oh, and you're illiterate, too. Hang on there pal its not my auction just one I came across while searching ebay for a reasonable priced bmw (see other post) Definitely not a comedian as I haven't said anything funny since I started paying for x-wife off. I like the oldies, but I like the convience of modern cars. > Hang on there pal its not my auction just one I came across while > searching ebay for a reasonable priced bmw (see other post) OK, my misunderstanding. It just looked like spammage. This bit still stands, though... >> No, it's not a bargain. >> >> Three and a bit grand for a 9yo E36 318...? >> Are you a f.cking comedian, or just stuck in a time warp? >> Hang on there pal its not my auction just one I came across while >> searching ebay for a reasonable priced bmw (see other post) [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >>> Three and a bit grand for a 9yo E36 318...? >>> Are you a f.cking comedian, or just stuck in a time warp? Fair enough, easy assumption to make consdering all the ebay spam floating around. My repose is as it stands :) Just wondering what kind of BMW 4k can get me. I have been driving vw polo's and 1.4 golfs and well quite frankly I want don't need want :) something with a bit more BHP, sporty looks, nice interior, just something a tad more classy. Although the cabin build on vw's is superb just fancy a nice change. > quite frankly I want don't need want :) something with a bit more BHP, > sporty looks, nice interior, just something a tad more classy. Don't buy an E36, then, whatever you do. I had two 318s, drove a couple of 320s and borrowed a 328 a few times "back in the day" - all 2yo at most, all dealer maintained co.cars. They were all sh.t - uncomfortable, not that well built, evil-handling - but the 318s were also terminally underpowered. >> quite frankly I want don't need want :) something with a bit more BHP, >> sporty looks, nice interior, just something a tad more classy. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > They were all sh.t - uncomfortable, not that well built, evil-handling - > but the 318s were also terminally underpowered. lol ok scrap the BMW idea what about the sabb 9-3 ? from what I read it pretty good and can also be tuned easily should you want to go down that route to get a few mor bhp. >> quite frankly I want don't need want :) something with a bit more BHP, >> sporty looks, nice interior, just something a tad more classy. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > They were all sh.t - uncomfortable, not that well built, evil-handling - > but the 318s were also terminally underpowered. In fairness, isn't the 318is a much better engine (140 or so bhp) than the regular 318? Don't know if that auction is a 318is, but the url gave a clue it might be...  Signature"For want of the price of tea and a slice, the old man died." In news:ArxPh.21944$NK3.601@newsfe6-win.ntli.net, AstraVanMan <Peter@whataloadofforeskinbollocks.co.uk> wittered on forthwith; >>> quite frankly I want don't need want :) something with a bit more >>> BHP, sporty looks, nice interior, just something a tad more classy. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Don't know if that auction is a 318is, but the url gave a clue it > might be... In the E30 318iS there was a rather good little 16v lump and yes, it was around 140 bhp. The E36 318 wasn't far down on power, IIRC, but unfortunately the E36 was the beginning of BMWs downfall when it comes to fun to drive, well built cars.. SignaturePete M - Using the Scouse Side of the Force - Golf GTi (Dead), Mercedes 190E Auto (also dead) OMF#9 Currently listening to the 747s "Zampano" On Apr 1, 1:56 am, "Pete M" > In the E30 318iS there was a rather good little 16v lump and yes, it was > around 140 bhp. > > The E36 318 wasn't far down on power, IIRC, but unfortunately the E36 was > the beginning of BMWs downfall when it comes to fun to drive, well built > cars.. The 318 was seriously underpowered. The 318is was better. Seems you've had a bad experience with the E36 but I would say they are generally considered far superior to the E30s. > On Apr 1, 1:56 am, "Pete M" > > In the E30 318iS there was a rather good little 16v lump and yes, it was [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Seems you've had a bad experience with the E36 but I would say they > are generally considered far superior to the E30s. No, they're not. The E36 was the beginning of the end for BMW build quality. SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # > >>> No, it's not a bargain. > >>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > with a bit more BHP, sporty looks, nice interior, just something a tad more > classy. Although the cabin build on vw's is superb just fancy a nice change. Don't do it. You'll end up with an E36 which will be a horrible pile of shite. Build quality is a fair way behind what you get from VAG products of a similar era - my brother had an E36 which fell apart around him and a former colleague bought an E46 from the company - last time I spoke to him he said 'Ultimate driving machine - my arse'. SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # >> >>> No, it's not a bargain. >> >>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > colleague bought an E46 from the company - last time I spoke to him he > said 'Ultimate driving machine - my arse'. I've hard a lot like this of people not being too happy with E36's (on bmw forums). Been with VAG for a good while and love it, not a lot goes wrong hey just keep rolling, never fail to start. Worst I have had is failing window regulators other than that just usual wear and tear. I've also been peeking into sabbs although I never thought I would look at them but they are slowly becoming more and more interesting. So far I've seen some 9-3's I like and they are sensible money too. What do you think ? >>> >>> No, it's not a bargain. >>> >>> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > seen some 9-3's I like and they are sensible money too. What do you think > ? You want an Alfa 156, tell him Steve. > > I've also been peeking into sabbs although I never thought I would look at > > them but they are slowly becoming more and more interesting. So far I've > > seen some 9-3's I like and they are sensible money too. What do you think > > ? > You want an Alfa 156, tell him Steve. Well, yes, I would recommend a *good* 156 bought from a recognised brand specialist. However, in his position, I'd go with VAG every time. I'm sure a Passat W8 wouldn't stretch the budget too much these days ;-) SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # >> > I've also been peeking into sabbs although I never thought I would look >> > at [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I'm sure a Passat W8 wouldn't stretch the budget too much these days ;-) ...takes hint an searches >> > I've also been peeking into sabbs although I never thought I would look >> > at [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I'm sure a Passat W8 wouldn't stretch the budget too much these days ;-) Out of curiosity how are is the alpha 156 to run ? mpg, reliability, build enjoyment to drive ? Never known to much about them, they quite nice looking cars, Itlian I believe ? You seem to have a like of them be interested to know you thoughts :) > > Well, yes, I would recommend a *good* 156 bought from a recognised brand > > specialist. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Out of curiosity how are is the alpha 156 to run ? mpg, reliability, build > enjoyment to drive ? MPG - the wife does about 10k miles / year (15 miles each way to work and back plus some longer stuff) and gets around 28-32mpg. Not bad, really. Ours has never let us down in 2 years, but has had a couple of niggly faults - a corroded air-con pipe and some hassle getting a steady idle for the MOT this year. Other than that it has been just about the most reliable thing we've owned. Build quality isn't quite up to VAG standards, but it's ahead of the crap punted out by Ford / Vauxhall / Peugeot etc. Nicely styled and comfortable interior, too. BTW, it's ALFA, with an 'F'..... > Never known to much about them, they quite nice looking cars, Itlian I > believe ? Erm, yes. Obviously. > You seem to have a like of them be interested to know you thoughts :) I love ours and would have had a 156 diesel as my company car if I'd had a choice. But the choices were German, German or German, unless you wanted a base model Mondeo or Vectra. I chose the mid-range Passat option. I like the Passat, too - it's great for business purposes, but I'd pick the 156 to drive for private use. SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # >>> > I've also been peeking into sabbs although I never thought I would >>> > look at [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > You seem to have a like of them be interested to know you thoughts :) Steve's 156 is great, mine is shite, you pays yer money...... Mpg is OK, reliability ranges from 'great' to 'daren't turn the key'. I cannot imagine anything being more enjoyable to drive. > > You seem to have a like of them be interested to know you thoughts :) > > > Steve's 156 is great, mine is shite, you pays yer money...... To be fair, we paid quite a hefty premium to get a fully warrantied one with huge amounts of history from a couple of North London specialists in order to get a good one. We did, however, look at all kinds of shite during the 3 month mission to find one I thought was worth buying. SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # >> > You seem to have a like of them be interested to know you thoughts :) >> > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > We did, however, look at all kinds of shite during the 3 month mission > to find one I thought was worth buying. Yup and I took a chance on a cheap un. You live and learn, or so they say. This is a public service post. > I've also been peeking into sabbs although I never thought I would look at > them but they are slowly becoming more and more interesting. So far I've > seen some 9-3's I like and they are sensible money too. What do you think ? They're Vauxhall Cavaliers in fancy clothes. Some have Triumph Dolomite engines. SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # >> So far I've seen some 9-3's I like and they are sensible money too. >> What do you think ? > They're Vauxhall Cavaliers in fancy clothes. No, the 9-3 is a Vectra. The NG900 was the Chavalier. > Some have Triumph Dolomite engines. So do proper Saabs - at least, the proper Saabs that don't go ring-a-ding- ding. > >> So far I've seen some 9-3's I like and they are sensible money too. > >> What do you think ? > > > They're Vauxhall Cavaliers in fancy clothes. > > No, the 9-3 is a Vectra. The NG900 was the Chavalier. Does it really make a difference? > > Some have Triumph Dolomite engines. > > So do proper Saabs - at least, the proper Saabs that don't go ring-a-ding- > ding. Yes, and? - It's still a Dolly lump. Which I always find amusing. SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # >> >> So far I've seen some 9-3's I like and they are sensible money >> >> too. What do you think ? >> > They're Vauxhall Cavaliers in fancy clothes. >> No, the 9-3 is a Vectra. The NG900 was the Chavalier. > Does it really make a difference? Probably not... >> > Some have Triumph Dolomite engines. >> So do proper Saabs - at least, the proper Saabs that don't go >> ring-a-ding-ding. > Yes, and? - It's still a Dolly lump. Which I always find amusing. <shrug> Does it really matter? >> >> So far I've seen some 9-3's I like and they are sensible money too. >> >> What do you think ? >> >> > They're Vauxhall Cavaliers in fancy clothes. >> >> No, the 9-3 is a Vectra. The NG900 was the Chavalier. they're still OK and a still a bit classier than a vectra...If an NG900 avoid the V6 (unless real cheap), apart from potential cambelt issues, they're not particularly quick and drink fuel. Better off with the trusty 4-pot. I wasted a vectra 2.5 GSI (same engine) in a 21 year old 900 turbo... > Does it really make a difference? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Yes, and? - It's still a Dolly lump. Which I always find amusing. not since the 70's....and would a dolly do 300k.... ;-) > > >>> No, it's not a bargain. > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > colleague bought an E46 from the company - last time I spoke to him he > said 'Ultimate driving machine - my arse'. My E36 325i coupe was probably the best car I've ever owned. Good looks (at the time) reasonable amount of room and practical with the folding rear seats. Great handling. The lesser engined or non sport spec'd models aren't so hot. The problem with E36's now is that they're dated but not yet "classic" like the (inferior) E30s. £4k would buy an E30 or E36, E34, E38 and probably an E39 so yes, take your pick. On > You'll end up with an E36 which will be a horrible pile of shite. Build > quality is a fair way behind what you get from VAG products of a similar > era - my brother had an E36 which fell apart around him and a former > colleague bought an E46 from the company - last time I spoke to him he > said 'Ultimate driving machine - my arse'. Oops, forgot to say if you ever need to visit a BMW dealer that's the time that you start hating BMWs. > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/98-S-Reg-E36-Bmw-318-is-Every-BMW-M-Tech-Extra-More_W0QQit emZ250097568324QQcategoryZ9837QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem No, just another over-priced pile of crap being sold by an illiterate idiot who, judging by the sub-title of the ad, doesn't even know if it's a rare car or not. Why do you ask? SignatureAndrewR, D.Bot (Celeritas) Kawasaki ZX-6R J1, Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo BOTAFOT#2,ITJWTFO#6,UKRMRM#1/13a,MCT#1,DFV#2,SKoGA#0 (and KotL) BotToS#5,SBS#25,IbW#34, DS#5, COSOC# Suspended, KotTFSTR# The speccy Geordie twat. >> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/98-S-Reg-E36-Bmw-318-is-Every-BMW-M-Tech-Extra-More_W0QQit emZ250097568324QQcategoryZ9837QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Why do you ask? Been intereste din gettingi nto the BMW market and know absolutely nothing about them (very little). I have £3500/£4k to play with on finding one. Be glad any any advice, maybe somethings to look out for and to avoid, tips etc. > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/98-S-Reg-E36-Bmw-318-is-Every-BMW-M-Tech-Extra-More_W0QQit emZ250097568324QQcategoryZ9837QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem what about this one http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2001-BMW-320CI-SE-BLACK-FULL-LEATHERS_W0QQitemZ26009820232 3QQcategoryZ9837QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem slightly out of budget but nice > >http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/98-S-Reg-E36-Bmw-318-is-Every-BMW-M-Tech-Extra-More > >_W0QQitemZ250097568324QQcategoryZ9837QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > slightly out of budget but nice I didn't realise there was a 'show items from illiterate sellers only' button on ebay. SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # > I didn't realise there was a 'show items from illiterate sellers only' > button on ebay. Oh, yes... Search for "BMW". >> >http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/98-S-Reg-E36-Bmw-318-is-Every-BMW-M-Tech-Extra-More >> >_W0QQitemZ250097568324QQcategoryZ9837QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I didn't realise there was a 'show items from illiterate sellers only' > button on ebay. Why can't poeple just stay on topic! As per my original post, if you have nothing to say of relevance get lost an let those who would like to post share their knoweledge. > > I didn't realise there was a 'show items from illiterate sellers only' > > button on ebay. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > As per my original post, if you have nothing to say of relevance get lost an > let those who would like to post share their knoweledge. OK, an on-topic post.... Never buy a car from an illiterate seller. SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # >> > I didn't realise there was a 'show items from illiterate sellers only' >> > button on ebay. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Never buy a car from an illiterate seller. Excellent, thank you for that and thanks for keeping it on-topic. > Why can't poeple just stay on topic! > > As per my original post, if you have nothing to say of relevance get > lost an let those who would like to post share their knoweledge. <hands rattle back> >> Why can't poeple just stay on topic! >> >> As per my original post, if you have nothing to say of relevance get >> lost an let those who would like to post share their knoweledge. > > <hands rattle back> right on with staying on topic. >> Why can't poeple just stay on topic! >> >> As per my original post, if you have nothing to say of relevance get >> lost an let those who would like to post share their knoweledge. > > <hands rattle back> <Shakes rattle> >>> >http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/98-S-Reg-E36-Bmw-318-is-Every-BMW-M-Tech-Extra-More >>> >_W0QQitemZ250097568324QQcategoryZ9837QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > As per my original post, if you have nothing to say of relevance get lost > an let those who would like to post share their knoweledge. Take your pick, http://motors.search.ebay.co.uk/540i_BMW SignatureThePunisher >>>> >http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/98-S-Reg-E36-Bmw-318-is-Every-BMW-M-Tech-Extra-More >>>> >_W0QQitemZ250097568324QQcategoryZ9837QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > http://motors.search.ebay.co.uk/540i_BMW Opps, http://motors.search.ebay.co.uk/540i_Cars_W0QQcatrefZC12QQsacatZ9801 SignatureThePunisher > > Why can't poeple just stay on topic! > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://motors.search.ebay.co.uk/540i_BMW Aren't they Nikasil special editions? SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # >> > Why can't poeple just stay on topic! >> > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Aren't they Nikasil special editions? Not on the E39s SignatureThePunisher > I didn't realise there was a 'show items from illiterate sellers only' > button on ebay. I didn't realise there was any other sort of button. SignatureAndrewR, D.Bot (Celeritas) Kawasaki ZX-6R J1, Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo BOTAFOT#2,ITJWTFO#6,UKRMRM#1/13a,MCT#1,DFV#2,SKoGA#0 (and KotL) BotToS#5,SBS#25,IbW#34, DS#5, COSOC# Suspended, KotTFSTR# The speccy Geordie twat. >> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/98-S-Reg-E36-Bmw-318-is-Every-BMW-M-Tech-Extra-More_W0QQit emZ250097568324QQcategoryZ9837QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > what about this one > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2001-BMW-320CI-SE-BLACK-FULL-LEATHERS_W0QQitemZ26009820232 3QQcategoryZ9837QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > slightly out of budget but nice E30 325i or an old 6 series. Anything apart from that is obviously not sensible. Unless it's a CSL batmobile or a 2002tii. > E30 325i or an old 6 series. Anything apart from that is obviously not > sensible. Unless it's a CSL batmobile or a 2002tii. PLEASE point me to a CSL for £4k... <waves wad of £20s...> In news:Xns99005296EF5C2adrianachapmanfreeis@204.153.245.131, Adrian <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> wittered on forthwith; >> E30 325i or an old 6 series. Anything apart from that is obviously >> not sensible. Unless it's a CSL batmobile or a 2002tii. > > PLEASE point me to a CSL for £4k... <waves wad of £20s...> <waves another wad of £20s> Hey, I'd be happy with a 3.3Si. SignaturePete M - Using the Scouse Side of the Force - Golf GTi, Mercedes 190E Auto OMF#9 Currently listening to "The Dead Class - Boo" >> E30 325i or an old 6 series. Anything apart from that is obviously not >> sensible. Unless it's a CSL batmobile or a 2002tii. > > PLEASE point me to a CSL for £4k... <waves wad of £20s...> I didn't say you could get one. Just they're the only ones worth having. Apart from the Ms... |
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